Contemplating an EP3R! Opinions please!

[dee-y]

Hi guys! Thinking about getting an EP3R. Personally love the look of the car and now am considering it. Just a few queries I have on the car.

1. Being an import I'm a bit iffy on its maintainability. Is it hard to obtain parts, servicing etc... Or overall just like any other honda.

2. Hows the reliability? Anyone had any glaring issues with their EP3R?

3. When I'm test driving one, are there any model specific issues I should b on the lookout for? Any common signs that it's been thrashed etc...

4. I haven't driven a manual in 5 years (always had auto cars at home) is it a hard car to pick it up again?

5. Would an Ep3R that's done over 100k be a turn off?

6. Came across this, seems like a good deal. Is it? http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2002-Honda-Civic-EP31-Type-R-White-6sp-M-Hatchback-/110586479431?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item19bf77c347
Heck even better - http://www.carsguide.com.au/site/search/vehicle-details/D_15011239/@rs=bs&type=cars&N=4294962119+4294963052++486+4294965122&searchType=1&vehicleType=1&pos=6&pr=D_14944150&nr=D_14972799

Cheers,

[JohnO]

1. servicing like any other honda like a dc5r mate its identical, its easy to source parts like mounts mods and other bits and pieces and like if you cant find it usually it takes a phonecall to hondas head office and chances are they'll have things shipped in overnight.

2. pre facelift 02-03 common issues are steering rack needs greasing- 20min job at the mechs or less and costs <90bucks. other than that its good, facelifted ep3s have the problem fixed.

3. not gonna lie every ep3 will have been thrashed, even when the first owners of japan bought it off the dealership floors. but if its serviced reguarly and well maintained which nearly all are then theres nothing to be worried about.

4. when i got off my reds, i went out to buy the car straight away afew days after getting my greens and it was easy to pick up on, just the position was abit strange at first and the clutch was really light. took me a couple of days to get the hang of it.

5. numbers dont matter, servicing and maintenance is the importance.

6. i think the 2nd one is from a member here, i remember seeing that when i bought mine from img, when my mechanic checked it, was in excellent condition. just i wanted the oem headlights and foggies =)
check the forsale section there might be a few ep3s for sale if your in sydney.
good car for a daily, parking is hassle free.

[dee-y]

1. servicing like any other honda like a dc5r mate its identical, its easy to source parts like mounts mods and other bits and pieces and like if you cant find it usually it takes a phonecall to hondas head office and chances are they'll have things shipped in overnight.

2. pre facelift 02-03 common issues are steering rack needs greasing- 20min job at the mechs or less and costs <90bucks. other than that its good, facelifted ep3s have the problem fixed.

3. not gonna lie every ep3 will have been thrashed, even when the first owners of japan bought it off the dealership floors. but if its serviced reguarly and well maintained which nearly all are then theres nothing to be worried about.

4. when i got off my reds, i went out to buy the car straight away afew days after getting my greens and it was easy to pick up on, just the position was abit strange at first and the clutch was really light. took me a couple of days to get the hang of it.

5. numbers dont matter, servicing and maintenance is the importance.

6. i think the 2nd one is from a member here, i remember seeing that when i bought mine from img, when my mechanic checked it, was in excellent condition. just i wanted the oem headlights and foggies =)
check the forsale section there might be a few ep3s for sale if your in sydney.
good car for a daily, parking is hassle free.

I'm in Brissy, but would be willing to travel down if the right deal is there.

[flubbar]

lol...hard to say when johno's pretty much answered everything. but yea, second one looks like it was from a member in this forum.
only thing i can really add in here is to take a look at www.internationalmotorgroup.com.au and have a test drive.
Having been driving automatic transmission and learning manual the second i bought my ep3, took only a few hours and days to get used to the light clutch.
personally, at first i didn't like the ep3 due to its hatchback design and "jazz-look-a-like", but after driving it for 5 months, i love it! sometimes feel like just sitting in the car and turn everything off coz the recaro's are comfy and it's nice a quiet.

[dee-y]

Yeah I thought the car wouldn't be too much of a problem maintenance wise as it shares the K20, so that's good news. I'd rather find one here in Brissy but none atm. Good to know it has a light clutch!

DY

[waiwai]

There is actually one in Brisbane for sale, LINK (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?Cr=0&R=9058528&keywords=&trecs=130&__sid=12BD5F7E704E&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&__Qpb=true&__Nne=15&SearchAction=N&seot=1&__N=1216%201247%201252%201282%204294965322%2042949 65250%204294921591&silo=1011) gave them a call and the guy would take as low as $14,000.

You should check it out if your looking for an ep3.

[dee-y]

Yeah saw that one. Just not too keen on the amount of k's it's done. Plus I'd prefer champ white lol.

[Twest]

There is actually one in Brisbane for sale, LINK (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?Cr=0&R=9058528&keywords=&trecs=130&__sid=12BD5F7E704E&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&__Qpb=true&__Nne=15&SearchAction=N&seot=1&__N=1216%201247%201252%201282%204294965322%2042949 65250%204294921591&silo=1011) gave them a call and the guy would take as low as $14,000.

You should check it out if your looking for an ep3.

I woulnd't touch it at 14k. It doesn't have JDM headlights so it could be the EDM. The guy complies them himself so if it's been in any accident or anything shifty has been done to it you wouldn't know as the regulations that prohibited you from buying a lemon dont really exist as he just wants to register the car. Get it checked out thoroughly by a mechanic that atleast knows imports and hondas. Check it wasn't cut and joined somewhere....I found a few when i bought mine that bad been in serious accidents and If i didn't take my friend who's a panel beater I would've never noticed.

Also on parts, anything panel related is hard to find. There are a few ep3's now that are being used for wrecking so it's made it a bit easier...but stuff is still hard to find, much on the contrary to JohnO's experience ringing honda is never a 5 minute thing and never did I get anything overnighted to me...LOL. They wanted 4 weeks for tie rod ends. 4 WEEKS!

Also my clutch is really heavy...wth? Why are all your clutches so light?

[JohnO]

the look and shape of the car just grows on you i guess. 10months ago an ep3 didnt even cross my mind haha nearly bought a dc5r until i sat in both and notice the difference.

[Philip Lee]

I'm in Brissy

hi mate. finally another (potential) owner up here.

ps. red is actually a rare colour for EP3.

i have a friend in Syd selling his pre FL CW with a few goodies on (mugen catback, mugen grill, FL projectors, RSR springs etc). he just has his car professionally detailed. ad is here (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=9401068&keywords=type r&__Ntk=CarAll&__Nne=15&__Dx=mode matchany&__No=75&__D=type r&silo=1011&seot=1&__sid=125988869A13&__N=1216 1282 4294965250 4294965322&__Ns=pCar_YearMade_Int32|1||pCar_RankSort_Int32|1| |pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0&__Ntx=mode matchallpartial&Cr=6&__Ntt=type r&trecs=131&__Qpb=true)

[dee-y]

hi mate. finally another (potential) owner up here.

ps. red is actually a rare colour for EP3.

i have a friend in Syd selling his pre FL CW with a few goodies on (mugen catback, mugen grill, FL projectors, RSR springs etc). he just has his car professionally detailed. ad is here (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=9401068&keywords=type r&__Ntk=CarAll&__Nne=15&__Dx=mode matchany&__No=75&__D=type r&silo=1011&seot=1&__sid=125988869A13&__N=1216 1282 4294965250 4294965322&__Ns=pCar_YearMade_Int32|1||pCar_RankSort_Int32|1| |pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0&__Ntx=mode matchallpartial&Cr=6&__Ntt=type r&trecs=131&__Qpb=true)


Hey Phil,
you know what his best offer would be? The car looks great!

[JohnO]

man for that price its a bargain like its infavour of the buyer. +prefacelift headlights ontop man. phill think he can sell me the facelift lights? =D

[stienerv2]

I woulnd't touch it at 14k. It doesn't have JDM headlights so it could be the EDM. The guy complies them himself so if it's been in any accident or anything shifty has been done to it you wouldn't know as the regulations that prohibited you from buying a lemon dont really exist as he just wants to register the car. Get it checked out thoroughly by a mechanic that atleast knows imports and hondas. Check it wasn't cut and joined somewhere....I found a few when i bought mine that bad been in serious accidents and If i didn't take my friend who's a panel beater I would've never noticed.

Also on parts, anything panel related is hard to find. There are a few ep3's now that are being used for wrecking so it's made it a bit easier...but stuff is still hard to find, much on the contrary to JohnO's experience ringing honda is never a 5 minute thing and never did I get anything overnighted to me...LOL. They wanted 4 weeks for tie rod ends. 4 WEEKS!

Also my clutch is really heavy...wth? Why are all your clutches so light?

My clutch is also very heavy. I thought it was weird when everyone elses was light.

[bennjamin]

My clutch is also very heavy. I thought it was weird when everyone elses was light.


clutch feel is directly related to pressure plate type and or wear/issue with pressure plate. That is a heavy duty or organic clutch pressure plate will feel heavier to use than a OE part

[Philip Lee]

Hey Phil,
you know what his best offer would be? The car looks great!

best to speaks to him directly. Tell him Philip referred lol

try not to be bias but it's a great car. i didn't want springs/coilovers initially becos i thought the ride would be too harsh but once i had a ride in his car, i went to get some Super Street.


man for that price its a bargain like its infavour of the buyer. +prefacelift headlights ontop man. phill think he can sell me the facelift lights? =D

Perry asked the same question but he is not parting out sorry.

[dee-y]

best to speaks to him directly. Tell him Philip referred lol

try not to be bias but it's a great car. i didn't want springs/coilovers initially becos i thought the ride would be too harsh but once i had a ride in his car, i went to get some Super Street.



Perry asked the same question but he is not parting out sorry.


Np might give him an enquiry, though it says deposit taken :( Annnd i guess I'd really like to sell my current car first as well hah.

[PeppeX]

The second link listed by dee-y has some weird lights... its different from all the other EP3s up for sale.

Is this car dodgy?
http://www.carsguide.com.au/site/search/vehicle-details/D_15011239/@rs=bs&type=cars&N=4294962119+4294963052++486+4294965122&searchType=1&vehicleType=1&pos=6&pr=D_14944150&nr=D_14972799

[NightRyder]

another one with non-OEM headlights!...other than that the rest of the car looks legitimate.


The second link listed by dee-y has some weird lights... its different from all the other EP3s up for sale.

Is this car dodgy?
http://www.carsguide.com.au/site/search/vehicle-details/D_15011239/@rs=bs&type=cars&N=4294962119+4294963052++486+4294965122&searchType=1&vehicleType=1&pos=6&pr=D_14944150&nr=D_14972799

[av90]

those are USDM headlights.....if you get that i'll be happy to swap you with my OEM ones.

[egads]

That second one with the usdm headlights is eggbox's old car. I think his words were, "nugget engine".

[av90]

dealer bought it off him? how is k20 nugget engine :s

[egads]

ahh yes, I was unfortunate enough to purchase a good condition ep3r (so IMG and State roads claims) with a dud engine, then got dicked around while getting it fixed


Might be fixed now but yer..

[av90]

oh i see, dud engine....wonder what exactly was wrong. i understand his hate for honda's now lol

[twelve]

Np might give him an enquiry, though it says deposit taken :( Annnd i guess I'd really like to sell my current car first as well hah.

Hi Dee-y

I actually bought this car, it was me that put the deposit down and picked it up today.

I am probably well placed to comment on 'contemplation' given i am new to honda's. I was lookign at ep3's, dc2r's, silvia's, skyline's and all the other 20k sports cars. I was drawn to the honda as i believe it is a better package. it drives fantastic and feels really well made. I suggest you take one for a spin and decide for yourself, i am glad i made the honda choice!

[Philip Lee]

Hi twelve, welcome to the EP3 ownership. your car drives like a dream and i hope you enjoy it as much as the PO did lol.

[JohnO]

and if ever you change back to pre facelift lights i'll buy the facelift lights off you.

[twelve]

Cheers Philip, look forward to hanging onto this one for a while!

lol sorry JohnO not looking to sell the lights at the moment

[Stig]

contemplating on getting one as well, most parts of the dc5r are interchangeable aren't they, so direct bolt on for coilovers?

[JohnO]

like theres enough aftermarket products out there for an ep3 so dont need to worry so much. parts are interchangeable though.

[dee-y]

Hi Dee-y

I actually bought this car, it was me that put the deposit down and picked it up today.

I am probably well placed to comment on 'contemplation' given i am new to honda's. I was lookign at ep3's, dc2r's, silvia's, skyline's and all the other 20k sports cars. I was drawn to the honda as i believe it is a better package. it drives fantastic and feels really well made. I suggest you take one for a spin and decide for yourself, i am glad i made the honda choice!

Oh nice! Glad to know you're enjoying it. I've still gotta sell my car so no rush atm and I'm happy to wait for the right one, hopefully in Brissy.

To touch on what stiggy said, coils, stud pattern, blah blah are all the same as the dc5r?

DY

[JohnO]

stud pattern is the same 5x114, i think majority of the k20 parts are the same except the throttle body on the ep3 is larger?

[dee-y]

I'm actually contemplating a FD1 as well. Both interest me in terms of modding, however i'm leaning towards ep because I don't think the FD will excite me much haha. PLus I won't need to spend much to make it look good as it looks great already !

D

[Stig]

buy my fd1 when its up for sale lol :)

[dee-y]

buy my fd1 when its up for sale lol :)

haha how much? Was it a fun project to mod?

[ekay1]

I'm actually contemplating a FD1 as well. Both interest me in terms of modding, however i'm leaning towards ep because I don't think the FD will excite me much haha. PLus I won't need to spend much to make it look good as it looks great already !

D

Might be biased lol but look wise, i think that the FD has such more potential and variety then the ep3. However, performance wise, the fd isnt going to match the ep3 even with decent mods lol

[dee-y]

Might be biased lol but look wise, i think that the FD has such more potential and variety then the ep3. However, performance wise, the fd isnt going to match the ep3 even with decent mods lol

Yeah in terms of aesthetics I really like what the FD can do. But I just think performance wise won't really satisfy and better off spending that money on an EP. Still thoughts in process ha.

[Stig]

haha how much? Was it a fun project to mod?


no idea yet, ill post it up late nov - early dec

was it fun to mod? hell yeah... shouldn't have spent that much on it though LOL lets just say i couldve brought an ep3 on mods alone

[JohnO]

you teasing my pregnant jazz ekay1?!

[dee-y]

no idea yet, ill post it up late nov - early dec

was it fun to mod? hell yeah... shouldn't have spent that much on it though LOL lets just say i couldve brought an ep3 on mods alone

Haha! Well I was eying off this one in my suburb 15k 30xxx 06 vti. I've posted the link on the buying an fd thread i started. But it seems like a good price yes ? http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=9551993&YearFromShort=1650&__Qpb=true&keywords=&Cr=5&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_PriceSort_Decimal |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&SearchAction=N&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294965322% 204294965250%20412%20900%201650%204294922341%20429 4766524&silo=1011&PriceTo=412&seot=1&tsrc=allcarhome&__Nne=15&trecs=10&__sid=128DB70CC8A8

Lol thread might turn into a FD jack.

[Stig]

not bad, they go for around those prices anyway the 06 vti

[dee-y]

not bad, they go for around those prices anyway the 06 vti

Yer I think I can get it even cheaper haha maybe 14.5 which would be very tempting....

[Stig]

14.5 sounds reasonable, then mod away! rims, kit, sound system, intake, exhaust, k20 swap... sway bars, strut bars... man the list is endless LOL

[Twest]

contemplating on getting one as well, most parts of the dc5r are interchangeable aren't they, so direct bolt on for coilovers?

No the tierod bolt is a different taper size so its not direct bolt on...to my knowledge. But then some coilovers are dc5/ep3 compatible so It's dependant on which coilover you are talking about.

[bennjamin]

No the tierod bolt is a different taper size so its not direct bolt on...to my knowledge. But then some coilovers are dc5/ep3 compatible so It's dependant on which coilover you are talking about.

AFAIK EP3 coilovers can fit a DC5 , but DC5 suited coilovers will not fit a EP3. (rear lower bush is slightly different size)

[dee-y]

14.5 sounds reasonable, then mod away! rims, kit, sound system, intake, exhaust, k20 swap... sway bars, strut bars... man the list is endless LOL

Haha, prolly won't do many eng mods, in order to appeal to the general driver when it comes to selling, but would it be worth the extra cash to go for a sport? It has the watered down k20 doesn't it? http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=9357864&__Qpb=true&Cr=5&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294965322% 204294965250%20900%204294931714&SearchAction=N&silo=1011&__No=15&seot=1&tsrc=allcarhome&__Nne=15&trecs=59&__sid=1296F53D5337 anyone know if this car belongs to an ozhonda member? Might be worth a look if I can get it under 20k but yer.....

D

[ekay1]

you teasing my pregnant jazz ekay1?!

Not in any way =) Your pregnant Jazz is alot faster than my built fd1 haha
Dee-y, the civic sports k20 is not the k20 that you see in the dc5r/s or the ep3r. Its like an engine between the fd and the dc5/ep3.

[JohnO]

isnt more like the type s engine or the fn2?

[dee-y]

Yeah i knew it wasn't the k20 just a watered down one from the ep and dc right? Like Johno said like the type s?

[DC5.Raven]

The K20Z in the FD is completely different to the DC5 Type S. The K20 in the DC5S is more similar to the JDM K20A in the DC5's than the K20A2 of the AUDM DC5R.
The K20 in the FD2 is running lower compression vs. the DC5S, FN2R etc etc.

DC5S: K20Z1 ~ 154kW @ 7400rpm
194Nm @ 7000rpm

FD2: K20Z2 ~ 114kW @ 6200rpm
188Nm @ 4200rpm

FN2R: K20Z4 ~ 148kW @ 7800rpm
193Nm @ 7300rpm

DC5R: K20A2 ~ 147kW @ 7400rpm
192Nm @ 6000rpm

EP3 would be putting out more kW than the DC5S with the JDM K20A.

[flubbar]

Engine Capacity & Type:
2.0L (1998cc) i-VTEC DOHC 16v IL-4

Maximum Power:
200ps (197bhp) @ 7400rpm
215ps (212bhp) @ 8000rpm (JDM spec)

Maximum Torque:
196Nm @ 5900rpm
202Nm @ 7000rpm (JDM spec)

[dee-y]

Hmm might just stick with the the VTI if i choose to go FD. Are there any differences between the sport and vti aesthetically? Same lips around the car?

[Stig]

06-07 sport over 06-07 vti has sunroof, climate control, side mirror indicators, fog lights, side airbags and 6 stacker cd player and the alloy wheels... and i think the aux cable is missing on the vti

apart from that they look pretty much the same

and the exhaust finisher on the sport

[Stig]

also steering wheel controls such as the audio and cruise control and leather seats

[DC5.Raven]

And the FD2 came with (or used to) with those HOT EP3 alloys.

I know you didn't ask about performance. But I think it may be worth paying that bit more to gain those extras and also the extra performance.
The K20 is putting out around 20kW more than the R18 with a DOHC VTEC vs. a SOHC VTEC.

[Stig]

only the 07-08 sport came with the ep3 alloys, the sport is also heavier than the vti though

[dee-y]

And the FD2 came with (or used to) with those HOT EP3 alloys.

I know you didn't ask about performance. But I think it may be worth paying that bit more to gain those extras and also the extra performance.
The K20 is putting out around 20kW more than the R18 with a DOHC VTEC vs. a SOHC VTEC.

I would like better performance but I don't think I can justify spending an extra 4 ish grand on a sport model over that vti i posted. I'm not really fussed on the other extras and the money saved by getting a vti could mean a bit of scrilla to mod around.

[ekay1]

And the FD2 came with (or used to) with those HOT EP3 alloys.

I know you didn't ask about performance. But I think it may be worth paying that bit more to gain those extras and also the extra performance.
The K20 is putting out around 20kW more than the R18 with a DOHC VTEC vs. a SOHC VTEC.

Its got a 11kw difference lol. Yeah but theres like a 5-10k difference in price for those "extras". For the price of a decent fd2, you could be getting a dc5r or ep3 which has like 30kw more than the fd2. Imagine what you could be doing with the 5-10k that you save from the fd2 to be invested into a fd1. Chuck in a k24 with that money lol

[dee-y]

grrr... no enquiries on my car yet... after 63 views booooo..... Might look at dealers in the worse case scenario. Might just ask these guys http://www.importautocentre.com.au/results/?action=submit_search&timestamp=1289269064&clientno=+6230&division=&exportdestid=&groupid=&stocktype=CARU%2CTRUU%2CMCVU&specials=&makefilter=&priceoverrides=&make=Honda&model=&yearfrom=&yearto= what's the best changeover they can achieve for me

D

EDIT: Could the EP3R owners please tell me how much insurance costs are!

[Philip Lee]

EDIT: Could the EP3R owners please tell me how much insurance costs are!

i insure with Shannons, clean record, over 30yo full NCB + limited usage = $700 pa.

[twelve]

EDIT: Could the EP3R owners please tell me how much insurance costs are!

24 year old male, no recent driving offence of any nature
$560 third party fire and theft through nrma - note fire and theft cover is only up to 10,000

[dee-y]

Sounds reasonable. Might just put it under one of my rents names and me as a secondary driver.

What you guys think pricewise for that EP i listed before?

[Philip Lee]

look alright. the car seems stock with a mugen gear knob. i'd bargain another k or 2 off.

[dee-y]

Gonna look at the car on saturday. Hopefully all goes well! Noww it doesn't have logs, (kinda expected that) will a VIN check do much? As long as I get it checkd out to see if it is fine mechanically, should all be good? Any signs I can check for wound back odo?

D

[flubbar]

Gonna look at the car on saturday. Hopefully all goes well! Noww it doesn't have logs, (kinda expected that) will a VIN check do much? As long as I get it checkd out to see if it is fine mechanically, should all be good? Any signs I can check for wound back odo?

D

don't think you'll be able to check if the odo's been wound back until purchased.
vin check online, see if chassis has any welding marks, how many owners have had it, the usual stuff i guess.

[dee-y]

Most of you EP owners have logs at all? Or is it quite standard for them to not have em

[flubbar]

Most of you EP owners have logs at all? Or is it quite standard for them to not have em

when bought from an import dealership and its straight from JP, generally there's no logbook, but if it's from private selller..there may or may not be one.
i'm not 100% on it...but there should be a logbook if it's from a private seller in australia. could someone confirm for me?

[stienerv2]

I got a logbook but i brought the car from a private seller. I also know another ep3 selling in cabra that has a logbook. That guy got his car from IMG.

[dee-y]

So should the no log-book thing be much of an issue to worry about? Is there anyway I can get one once i purchase the car?

[JohnO]

i started my own log book from 54k

some do some dont come with the original logbook

[dee-y]

i started my own log book from 54k

some do some dont come with the original logbook

Where did u obtain the book from Johno? Or just kept a record of everything in a pad or reciepts or what not.

[JohnO]

yeah in servicing receipts gives assurance for next owner

[dee-y]

I'll definitely be doing that if I get the car. But definitely getting it checked out by Centrax like Phil recommended.

ALSO forgot to ad the dealer said it comes with 5 years warranty which covers parts and labour. Seems decent or is it usually the case with imports.

[JohnO]

5years or 5months?

[dee-y]

Years!

[dee-y]

Quick one! Does the jap spec ep come with AC?

[Philip Lee]

C package should have ac. Most ep are c packages.

With those warranty, they are a little like insurance as the dealer would have paid and when u have problem then u call up the coy and make claims. Usually there are limits as to the max amount they will pay u to get it fixed. However ask the dealer exactly how it works, maybe I'm wrong

[dee-y]

C package should have ac. Most ep are c packages.

With those warranty, they are a little like insurance as the dealer would have paid and when u have problem then u call up the coy and make claims. Usually there are limits as to the max amount they will pay u to get it fixed. However ask the dealer exactly how it works, maybe I'm wrong

Yeah guess we'll see tomorrow

[xenonkuraz]

anyone else agree that ep3 front is fugly? rear is hawt tho

[dee-y]

OK so Phil and I went to check out the EP today. ........... lol Seems like its been in a crash. mismatch paint, incorrect headlights, various little missing parts here and there, stained/damaged seats.

On the driving side. Felt good, but to me the clutch seemed kinda heavy, maybe i'm not used to manual again yet. But yes we both agreed it's a miss.

[twelve]

anyone else agree that ep3 front is fugly? rear is hawt tho


beauty in the eye of the beholder i guess. I agree with you but i think its a cool looking car none the less

[Philip Lee]

Hey dee, if the clutch is heavy then it would have Bern changed cos stock one is light.

[Activa]

I'm also considering buying an EP3 type R.

One thing I want to know is how to tell the difference between a EDM and a JDM model as I don't want to wind up with someone trying to pawn off an EDM as a JDM.

Cheers

[JohnO]

british flag.

[Philip Lee]

I'm also considering buying an EP3 type R.

One thing I want to know is how to tell the difference between a EDM and a JDM model as I don't want to wind up with someone trying to pawn off an EDM as a JDM.

Cheers

Buying white ones are a good start, centre console is diff around headunit. VIN would be diff, JDM starts with EP3xxxxx.

[twelve]

Given they are all imported from japan, wouldnt they all be jdm spec?

unless of course it was a personal import from the uk

[Nepolian]

Compliance is for EP3. Considering that Europe did get RHD EP3's (Just like AUDM DC5R) it is very possible and there is. Its good in a way in that there is a better range of colours.

Difference would be obvious LOL....JDM has different parts like, seats, power mirrors, red rocker cover, 180km dash and UKDM has MPH with small KPH etc..... Can sit here and argue what if UKDM had been converted with those bits but thats a start!

[dee-y]

Came across this guys. http://www.prestigemotorsport.com.au/modules/stock/index.php?StockID=4782 Any of you guys bought through these guys? Good service? Decent price? They seem to have good reviews.

[Nepolian]

Y dont you look at the ones already here. Atlest you can see what youre buying? Just a thought....sometimes saving a few dollars may cause disappointment. May work for you I suppose!

[dee-y]

Yeah I'd much rather find one here for sure. Just having a look at options!

[najdi]

Sorry to hijack but can anyone tell me bout that usdm headlight ep3 link he posted i was going to go look at it on the weekend but someone here said theres something wrong with it can someone pm me whats wrong with it n to the ts il tel u if its worth checking it out once i look at it for

[Nepolian]

Sorry to hijack but can anyone tell me bout that usdm headlight ep3 link he posted i was going to go look at it on the weekend but someone here said theres something wrong with it can someone pm me whats wrong with it n to the ts il tel u if its worth checking it out once i look at it for

? Whats this got to do with buying an EP3 ? Theres only five pages here, find out what that person said dude :)

[Philip Lee]

.....if its worth checking it out once i look at it for

2 words = DON'T BOTHER.

[najdi]

2 words = DON'T BOTHER.
Lol whats wrong with it

[Philip Lee]

engine and electronics related and that's all i am going to disclose.