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sab0r
08-11-2010, 10:27 AM
Just wondering, by a show of hands..

VTiR owners on here.. who uses 95 and who here uses 98?

Curious as per if i'm wasting money pouring in 98.

98vtir
08-11-2010, 10:32 AM
I use 98 octane, 99% of the time it's BP Ultimate

pablos8
08-11-2010, 11:00 AM
I'm always using 98

cheapdouchebag
08-11-2010, 12:03 PM
98 is always best.
but, sometimes i use 95 when im low on cash.
i read on redbook that vti-r's should use 95 and above.

dahondr98
09-11-2010, 06:09 PM
I use either, but mainly 95 since I bought mine new - principally because 98 has only been available here for a few years. At times, away from large towns, I've had trouble even finding 95! If they were the same price and same availability, I'd use 98 all the time, but because only two companies have it here (BP, who introduced it sevral years ago, & Caltex, who've just started introducing it this year), it's still pretty rare.

mugen_ctr
09-11-2010, 10:52 PM
its funny cause honda hand book says ron 91, but its bs... hondas require at least 95 to run good, which many including me found out, regardless of b-series of d-series, both require a good dose of 95 octane to keep it happy, an get better fuel eco outta a full tank

From what i know, its best to stick to 98 octane, for number reasons, it burns cleaner an has much knock prevention than over el-cheapo 91 octane.... BUT its not to say its best for our engines, as honda's B-series (minus the Type-R) not tuned for 98 octane, there fore u could b pouring it mindless into ur car, yet its not making full use of the 98 octane, advancing timing or so to make more power an torque. Unless ur engine is required to take 98 all times, it shouldnt matter what fuel u use, 98 or 95, unlike imports which require 100 octane! :O!!!!! Yes australia use to stock it, but only briefly, i think it stopped 2 yrs ago

i run BP 98 all the time of my d-series, dunno why, lol an also its the only 98 octane around my area as well, i would use mobile one but thats too far of a travel...

dahondr98
15-11-2010, 05:25 PM
its funny cause honda hand book says ron 91, but its bs... hondas require at least 95 to run good

No, the handbook says 95 RON for the VTi-R engine. It also says "Premium Unleaded Fuel Only" (or something like that - it's raining, so I'm not going to get wet checking it!) inside the fuel filler. Source: Honda handbook, p134 - "Recommended petrol, engine type ID B16A2 - Premium Unleaded, 95 RON (MIN) Note 4: If you are unable to find premium unleaded petrol, you may substitute an unleaded regular petrol. The engine will compensate for the lower octane, but you may notice a slight decrease in power as a result." The date of my handbook is 1997, by the way.

But all D-series engines have 91 as the recommended fuel.

The reason for note 4 is that, because of the knock sensor used with the B16A2, it will retard ignition timing to eliminate pinging. That's also the reason why it's one of the few engines where using 98 octane will result in increased power - the knock sensor and ECU adjust the ignition timing to suit the fuel, until it's just below the point of pre-ignition, by advancing it until it just starts pinging, then backing off just below that point.

The handbook does show other engines that can use standard unleaded, or leaded, depending on the part of the world they're sold in. Obviously South Africa and the Philipines haven't got legislation to ban leaded fuel, because they're among those allowed to use it in the Civics they build there from knock-down components.

NSPYRE
15-11-2010, 05:32 PM
its only like wat, 5 cents per litre difference in price between 95 and 98.

50 litre tank, 5 cents per litre, $2.50 more per tank. stop being a stinge! lol

StrawberryFace
15-11-2010, 06:11 PM
i got a d series and always use mobile 98.

.k.
15-11-2010, 06:53 PM
bp ultimate is the way to go mateeeeeeeeeee

DC2-PWR
15-11-2010, 07:12 PM
BP Ulitimate 98 is the shit, good stuff :).

jks24
15-11-2010, 07:42 PM
vtir's require at least 95. Mine has always had vpower since the day I purchased it

Why vpower and not Bp Ultimate you ask? Because the previous owner always used vpower in the car so I just carried on with it

DC2-PWR
15-11-2010, 07:45 PM
vtir's require at least 95. Mine has always had vpower since the day I purchased it

Tell me about it,

it's like theres no other petrol than those 98rons. I think it's because it become a habbit thats why

jks24
15-11-2010, 07:54 PM
Tell me about it,

it's like theres no other petrol than those 98rons. I think it's because it become a habbit thats why

just like people always question me as to why I spend $100 every 5000km on Royal Purple for my car
I dont let money be an issue when it comes to maintaining my cars and in return they never let me down

pablos8
15-11-2010, 07:54 PM
I dont let money be an issue when it comes to maintaining my cars and in return they never let me down

:thumbsup:

DC2-PWR
15-11-2010, 07:57 PM
I dont let money be an issue when it comes to maintaining my cars and in return they never let me down

Thats a good line :)

pablos8
15-11-2010, 07:58 PM
Good enough to be double quoted for awesomeness

DC2-PWR
15-11-2010, 08:03 PM
Good enough to be double quoted for awesomeness

haha didn't see your post there :p

jks24
15-11-2010, 08:12 PM
Good enough to be double quoted for awesomeness

all good fellas, just give me the rep ;)

4age8u
16-11-2010, 02:48 PM
off-topic what about f22b1 from a cd5 vtec? I use 98.. am I wasting my $?

pablos8
16-11-2010, 02:52 PM
off-topic what about f22b1 from a cd5 vtec? I use 98.. am I wasting my $?

Don't think so man, I used 98 in my Carby, never really thought about it as a waste of money, at least I know I'm putting the best available fuel in no matter what engine I'm running.

Unless obviously your car dosen't/can't run 98 but I haven't seen many cars like that..

dougie_504
16-11-2010, 03:38 PM
The price increase between 91 and 95 is at least twice the different from 95 to 98, so if you're going to put it 95 you may as well go that little extra and go 98.

Otherwise if you want to save money just put in the 91, and hurray you'll save yourself like $5 on a re-fill? No wonder you're short on money - you have no idea how to save it in the first place lol

flipfire
16-11-2010, 04:07 PM
I used BP 91ron on my D16 for a bit to get to work and back daily. I didnt hear any knocking, ran just fine. Its only a d series engine.

Compared to 98, i only noticed a bit of mileage thats about it. I ran 95 or 98 most of the time depending on what i have in my wallet.

squishy
16-11-2010, 06:57 PM
always poured bp ultimate when i had a vtir teg and now i just pour 91 of what ever in the d series ek haha

mugen_ctr
16-11-2010, 07:07 PM
and plus no one uses 95 anyways, if u ever look at the little trip meter on the newer fuel pumps, it shows you the amount of liters ppl have pumped, an 95 seems half of that of 98, goes to show you that 95 is really the middle child when comes to consumer use.

Jus like everyone else, id certainly pay that extra for 98, since 95 isnt much of a step up

1996_EK_Civic
16-11-2010, 07:24 PM
and plus no one uses 95 anyways, if u ever look at the little trip meter on the newer fuel pumps, it shows you the amount of liters ppl have pumped, an 95 seems half of that of 98, goes to show you that 95 is really the middle child when comes to consumer use.

Jus like everyone else, id certainly pay that extra for 98, since 95 isnt much of a step up

i use 95 lol... in my D16Y8...

Mikecivic78
16-11-2010, 07:44 PM
Just wondering, by a show of hands..

VTiR owners on here.. who uses 95 and who here uses 98?

Curious as per if i'm wasting money pouring in 98.

Stick to 98. With a relatively high comp engine like B16a, its the best and most efficient. Worth the extra few cents.

I use BP Ultimate 98 or Mobil 98.

dougie_504
16-11-2010, 09:11 PM
Also remember they use 100 RON in Japan :)

And yes mugen_ctr interested but true point about the fuel pump that I noticed just the other day. I think BP ultimate had also been used more than the 91 when I looked?

mugen_ctr
16-11-2010, 11:26 PM
i use 95 lol... in my D16Y8...

Iev been running 98 in my y8 :S

dunno why, guess its a bad habit lol

MikeyG
17-11-2010, 12:28 AM
i used e85 on my b20vtec... and still use it on my d series

1996_EK_Civic
17-11-2010, 07:30 AM
Iev been running 98 in my y8 :S

dunno why, guess its a bad habit lol

i have used 98 in mine but, idk it feels MY car runs better on 95... but after this thread im thinking of going back to 98

flipfire
17-11-2010, 07:41 AM
If i had a D16 again, id use 91 all the way till it blows.

then use the money i save to get a B series lol

Tai
17-11-2010, 11:04 AM
I use 98 in my D series.

Runs cleaner and smoother.