AP2 bumpers on AP1

[JN7]

Just wondering if its been done by anyone here or if anyone has any info about the change
In shortness - will ap2 front and rear bars will fit onto ap1 fine?

And also, is it right that ap2 front bars don't have hid washers

and finally, what's the price differnce between AP1 front bumper and Lip cmpared to the ap2 bumper and lip

[ludecrs]

Been done by a few here.
It all fits - except you may have to shave a corner or 2 off the support bar as my JDM AP2 front found out the hard way when I got dimples from the sharp corners.

JDM / USDM dont have HID washers - UK and AUS do.

AP1 front bumper primered: $600ish
AP1 front lip painted: $700ish

AP2 front bumper primered: $700ish
Ap2 front lip: $not sure

I got my ap2 bumper & lip out of Japan auction site for $550 delivered - but i was lucky.

[ludecrs]

A quick looksee in the FAQ topic reveals this very topic having been covered..
Direct link:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43872

[lzybum]

got my ap2 front bar from honda
straight fit basically and didn't need to shave any corners from the support bar, although i didn't put back on the foamy part that sits in front of it.

ap2 rear bar fits too, no hassles, all bolts line up except the two right at the bottom.
the ap2 rear is taller, height wise (i think) so when u try to put the stock bolts back on at the bottom, theres a 10cm-ish gap.
all u need is 2 brackets to fill up that gap and ur sweet, or if ur lazy leave it out like i did and the rear bar's free to shake when u wash the car lol. might look flimsy but its still there atm.

[JN7]

Oh sweet, my panel beater should be able to sort that out.
Sounds like something small.

So the price difference between AP1 and AP2 front bar, front lip and rear bars don't vary by much?

[lzybum]

if anything its like 100bux difference or so

[JN7]

sweet as.
got any pics man?

[brendan1990]

click the link ludecrs gave you, that has a link with pics in it

[JN7]

called up one dealer
AP1 front bumper 908 primered
AP2 front bumper 1000 primered

AP1 & AP2 front lip - 908

AP1 & AP2 rear bumper - 908..

[vyets]

Sounds about right for a brand new honda bar ;P

[JN7]

If only Honda would sell USDM bars here.
I have to have HID washers still :( BOO

[JN7]

PS. anyone got pics of an AP1 with AP1 headlights and AP2 front bar and lip?

[ludecrs]

It looks crap / outdated.

Best look is AP2 headlights with AP1 bar and lip.

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=9647529&__Qpb=true&Cr=5&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_PriceSort_Decimal |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294965322% 204294964924&silo=1011&__No=30&seot=1&tsrc=allcarhome&__Nne=15&trecs=86&__sid=12C78E928230

[JN7]

Slow slow. Ap2 bumper and then lights later

[lzybum]

PS. anyone got pics of an AP1 with AP1 headlights and AP2 front bar and lip?

i do but duno how to/cbf uploading pics lol
ap2 tail + ap2 rear
ap1 head + ap2 front + lip

[lzybum]

called up one dealer
AP1 front bumper 908 primered
AP2 front bumper 1000 primered

AP1 & AP2 front lip - 908

AP1 & AP2 rear bumper - 908..

don't forget u also need the grill, tow hook cover for the front (had to buy)
and apparently the license plate holder thing for the rear (that's what i was told lol)

[JN7]

Meh.. Panel beaters gonna look after it all. Use imageshack to upload

[lzybum]

lucky i found one that was taken from one of the meets a while back

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4937169752_58cc5910f0_b.jpg

[ludecrs]

^ You need to post more photos. lol

[JN7]

+1 ;)

Are there any lips for the AP1 besides the OEM one?

[ludecrs]

J's Racing
C-West Version 1 & 2
Airwalker
BYS or BYP Version 1 & 2
Amuse
Chargespeed
GReddy
Top Secret (maybe I forget)

[JN7]

Google here i come.
How's the pricing with these? Easy to source?

[ludecrs]

Prices vary, from fibreglass to carbon.
Expect to spend up to about $2000 for Grade A rare carbon front lip.

Alternatively, a fibreglass version of a more popular and easily sourced front lip will run you about $500ish.

I always loved the look of the BYS front lip. Very rare though.


http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?act=module&module=gallery&cmd=viewimage&img=419667
http://gallery.s2ki.com/imagecatalog/imageview/68524/1
http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?act=module&module=gallery&cmd=viewimage&img=465808

[lzybum]

i like the look of the j's racing half lip on ap1 bumper...but it has to be molded on! otherwise no go =D
i'm contemplating on doing it in my spare time lol

[JN7]

yo, is there two different versions of AP2 (in australia)? like one old one and an updated one?
my panel beater mentioned something about the reinforcement bars or some shiznack like that

[ludecrs]

AP1 re-enforcement is different to AP2... AP1 is slightly longer..

[JN7]

so it doesn't really matter?

[ncmx5]

it does, you have to shave a bit off it, otherwise the corners can press through and damage the bumper.

[JN7]

on a scale of 1-10 in regards to difficulty... what would you rate it?

[JN7]

don't forget u also need the grill, tow hook cover for the front (had to buy)
and apparently the license plate holder thing for the rear (that's what i was told lol)

what's this grill you're talking about? does anyone else have any idea?

[ludecrs]

the grill...... IN THE BUMPER. The big black insert..... so air can get to your RADIATOR.

[mocchi]

the grill...... IN THE BUMPER. The big black insert..... so air can get to your RADIATOR.

youre a patient man.

[JN7]

yeah, thought so. thanks mate! going in today to check the car out. it'll be another 2 weeks until it's done -.-

[JN7]

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7446/mugens2000ap2frontm.jpg (http://img824.imageshack.us/i/mugens2000ap2frontm.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

last question, do i need to buy these seperately or would it come with the ap2 grill i order

[wtfhax]

those black parts come with the bumper........just not painted yellow in particular.
its the middle grill section and hook cover that u need you need to buy.

[JN7]

sweet man, just making sure i order everything cos it's all coming from japan.
thanks.

[ncmx5]

woah. how much are you paying for it all up?

[ncmx5]

ps. you might want to consider ordering ap2 fender/undertray liners... you can get away without it, but apparently only of the screw holes (from the ap1 liner) line up with the ap2 bumper..

[JN7]

thanks for the heads up.
i'm paying 2.8k for front bar, front lip and rear bar and also ordered ap2 lights from the states for 500.

[ITEAZR]

Any piks of Ur ride? And what are u doing for wheels ap2?

[JN7]

i want ap2 wheels, so if you know anyone hit me up.

[ekvtec]

thanks for the heads up.
i'm paying 2.8k for front bar, front lip and rear bar and also ordered ap2 lights from the states for 500.

isnt the US and AUS headlight different? as in since we are on opposite side of the road is shines towards opposite of the road?

But dont quote me on this, really unsure

[ncmx5]

i want ap2 wheels, so if you know anyone hit me up.

at this rate, you should've bought an ap2 car! haha

have you got your stuff yet?

[JN7]

should be the same shit man. if so, there are HID levelers that you can play with.
i think the only difference with the headlights are that the ap1 one has two versions - your one should be orange indicators (gangster :P) and ours are clear.

[JN7]

at this rate, you should've bought an ap2 car! haha

have you got your stuff yet?

haha i know i know. :P
everything is all at the shop. panel beater closed for this week cos of xmas but opens up on monday so everything should be done monday arvo or tuesday morning.. but then i have to do AP2 tail lights myself :(

[ITEAZR]

Piksssss!!!!!

[euromandeluxe]

isnt the US and AUS headlight different? as in since we are on opposite side of the road is shines towards opposite of the road?

But dont quote me on this, really unsure

He's right, Aus lights will project a line that's higher on left and lower on right, US projects higher on right and lower on left

This is the US one:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads14/bbbbbml11240421972.jpg

and Aus is opposite

won't make a massive difference but if the level isn't right you're more likely to annoy oncoming drivers :D

[ludecrs]

I have US AP2 headlights and can verify the HID cut off is as above.

Just make sure to only ever use low beam towards oncoming traffic.

[xntrik]

lucky i found one that was taken from one of the meets a while back

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4937169752_58cc5910f0_b.jpg

Hey if you don't mind me asking, how much was the AP2 front bar and lip from Honda?
PM it to me if you don't want to say it out.

And also do you know the part numbers?

[zco]

ly, part numbers are easy as to find ! theres a range of websites that give oyu partnumbers for ALL HONDAS' ! with PICTURES ! lol

ie: here. go for gold
http://www.hondapartsunlimited.com/index.php?p=page&page_id=catdisplay&make=Honda&catcgry1=S2000

00104711-S2A-A92ZZFACE, FR. BUMPER (DOT)2007S2000
00204715-S2A-A92ZZFACE, RR. BUMPER (DOT)2007S2000

[lzybum]

Hey if you don't mind me asking, how much was the AP2 front bar and lip from Honda?
PM it to me if you don't want to say it out.

And also do you know the part numbers?

pm sent

*edit inbox full!!

[JN7]

sigh.. have to wait until tomorrow to get my car back. have to wait for the number plate holder thing that fits the ap2 rear bar to come in from honda and my tow hook covers.
WOOOOOP

[JN7]

-.- ended up ordering the ap1 rear bar garnish instead of ap2.. so i have to wait until next week for it come in from japan.
my rear bar is just sitting at the shop painted and ready to roll.
here's the front. :)
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7249/copyofimg3810.jpg (http://img211.imageshack.us/i/copyofimg3810.jpg/)

[blackouT]

wow thats hot!!! im thinkning about getting rid of my HID washers and getting ap2 lights! but seeing that hmmmm lol

[vyets]

is it just me or the colour looks off

[aozora]

is it just me or the colour looks off

+1
...

[JN7]

is there a reason why my tow hook cover is different to the bar? must be ****ed up..

[zhong]

I think it's just the angle... My car looks multicoloured too.. At some angles... Well I hope it's just the angle LOL

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

hey that looks good man! Can you PM me the place where you ordered your AP2 headlights? I'm looking at getting these in the near future... Cars lookin sweet btw! :)

[JN7]

I just had a look, I think it is the angle.
does anyone know if there is a different silver colour for ap2? or is ap1 and ap2 both the same silver colour?

I don't have ap2 headlights bud but you can source it out from s2ki.com for ~$900 AUd

[ncmx5]

if it's silverstone, it's the same. BUT silverstone is hard to match, so usually, you have to blend spray the whole thing onto the bonnet and fenders, so i've been told. you should've sprayed you're washers as well.

[euromandeluxe]

I just had a look, I think it is the angle.
does anyone know if there is a different silver colour for ap2? or is ap1 and ap2 both the same silver colour?

I don't have ap2 headlights bud but you can source it out from s2ki.com for ~$900 AUd

There is an AP2 colour called chicane (or sometimes synchro) which is basically a slightly darker version of silverstone, kind of between silverstone and moonrock i guess. it's also got more flake than silverstone

you can't tell the difference unless you're really looking for it

car on the left is chicane with a SS lip, car on right is SS:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2437/3633352113_3ed4182fb2_o.jpg


your bar does look a little dark, but might be the angle.

if you still can get your washers colour matched like they are on the AP2s, looks heaps better!

[JN7]

I can't figure it out why my tow hook cover is brighter than my bumper. my bumper and bonnet match but my tow hook cover doesn't. I'll probably be taking my car back in the shop next Thursday cos of work 9-5pm from here till then and get my rear bar put on, tow hook sprayed and washers done as well

[ncmx5]

here's my ap2 front conversion taken by my blackberry.... http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs764.ash1/165518_10150126954762025_589892024_8079522_6626749 _n.jpg

i should do a proper shoot some time soon tho.

[euromandeluxe]

LOL, LOVE the plates mate
btw, i'm the guy you grabbed the filters off in melb.
nice car

[ncmx5]

hahaha, thanks man. pity i couldn't hang and chat more. nice to meet ya.

[JN7]

i'm going to steal your headlights!
car's back in the shop for a respray, thanks for the spot fellas.
everything should be done next week.

[zhong]

You respraying the whole lot? Or just the cover? I have AP2 lights coming (i need funds for something that came up) but if you want, you can take them off me? PM me.

[JN7]

really need some help guys.
apparently honda japan does not have the ap2 number plate holder thing for the rear bar.. where do i go for one? anyone?

[defect]

anyone know where I can source a USDM AP2 rear bar, without the number plate holder


http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stancenation.com%2F wp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F10%2F1514.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stancenation.com%2F2012 %2F11%2F11%2Fjapanese-usdm-style-s2000%2F&h=1116&w=1680&tbnid=m37JaKDy_4EMZM%3A&zoom=1&docid=8JW1WOJ5A_ilTM&ei=rlh_U-mTL8W4kgWH-YHYDw&tbm=isch&ved=0CBoQMygSMBI4ZA&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=1496&page=5&start=95&ndsp=27

[Giraffe]

04715-s2a-a92zz that's the part number, probably have to source from Honda Japan