mugen headers.

[brendan1990]

Ok before i ask dont worry i have done plenty of research on these, i can get them for a pretty good price atm but cant stop tossing and turning about them, its pretty much guranteed ill get better performance with the min mid range, but all over s2ki there are reports that there is no benefit at all to top end, and a small amount of people have said they found a loss in top of the rev range, considering the top rev range, say 6-9k rpm is where the s peaks, thats where i want to increase on, does anyone here on ozhonda have mugen headers that they can help me with? please any help would be great so i can seal the deal or not, btw vyets feel free not to comment cause i talked to you last night about this and i know what you'll say.

Thanks guys.

[JamieP]

Why not start saving your cash and buy yourself a decent turbo set up rather than spending all your cash on mods that will only give small and some what questionable gains? if your really chasing that extra horse power, turbo or supercharge is where your going to find it

[euromandeluxe]

^ totally agree, FI FTW

I'm not gonna do any engine/breathing mods on the car until I can afford to go FI - I don't see the point.

[brendan1990]

I have considered that but I'm still on my p's for another 2yrs now I consider myself I fairly responsible driver as I have not ever been pulled over so nor recieved any fines so I could probably get away with a turbo but the fact is on the off chance I do get pulled over I'm pretty sure instant loss of liscence so I don't wanna risk it but yeah basically the longer I own the s2 the more I get use to it's power and it doesn't help when slot of cars at work are turbo charged and feel quicker than my own car hence why I'm looking into extractors but feel free to shed more light on this situation as long as it's not 'wait till you get off your p's till you mod' cause I have beentold that one before

[aozora]

Depends what you want to use the car for ultimately.

Traffic light hero?
Track/Mountain warrior?
Autosalon show pony/Hard parker?
Daily drive?

No point throwing turbo or supercharge into the mix without a clear goal.

[brendan1990]

daily drive? no just bought a car for work use so i dont have to drive the s so much.
show pony? well....i like the car to look good but i have no need for a show pony maybe one day when i want everything perfect.
traffic hero? i dont even know what that means lol i assume a car that is quicker than everything else on the street, which would be nice but there is always quicker lol and most people on the street just want to drag which is pretty crap as the s wasnt really intended for drag use, how often do you roll down the windows at the lights and say "hey lets drag and take that hard right at the end, that goes into the sharp dog leg" never happened lol.
So yeah track weapon really, i just bought coilover's for winton in december, =)
A guy on here once said that when modifying a car its best to have a goal as to how much power you would like to make, at this point i would loooove 180kw atw but i know thats not really gonna happen without fi, i dont think 180 is to unrealistic either.

[aozora]

Are you going with Tampered? :o
Anyway if the focus is track weapon... and 180kw is the aim, you'll need to decide between Turbo or Supercharge.
Unless your pockets are very deep for pure NA :p

If you're going turbo.... forget about headers completely now.
Search for any supercharge builds with mugen headers and their respective dyno runs?
Otherwise top end isn't always everything. Mid-range is just as useful. But then it depends on the track, gear ratios blah blah blah...

But also... if they're cheap, could have good resale too?
Unfortunately, the S2000 parts bin in Aus is quite pathetic so... another thing to think about :)

Hope this helps...

[vyets]

Why not start saving your cash and buy yourself a decent turbo set up rather than spending all your cash on mods that will only give small and some what questionable gains? if your really chasing that extra horse power, turbo or supercharge is where your going to find it

The fact of the matter is not everyone can fork out a good 5k just for a FI setup outta nowhere, majority of the people who just got their cars will look into the most basic mods like intake and exhaust. Even if he does go with a i/h/e setup that will set him back what 2.5 - 3k still 2k under a bolt on turbo/sc. Even if he were to find a second hand kit he still needs the exhaust, and if he goes with sc he will still need the header and the exhaust so there really is no harm in buying it when you think about it.

Also Brendan here's a dyno graph of the mugen header on a stock 05 ap2 shoudl give you a rough idea
http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?act=module&module=gallery&cmd=viewimage&img=367633

[brendan1990]

what do you mean tampered?
I would preffer turbo if possible and i would love to keep the power in the higher rev range jsut as it works now for n/a, vtec really hits from 6-9k, peak power is at 8500rpm if im correct so max boost would be great around there.

Ill do some research on turbo kits now.

[EvolElmo]

I hear the amuse headers are great.

And I happen to have some for sale at the moment!

[aozora]

I hear the amuse headers are great.

And I happen to have some for sale at the moment!

I'm an Amuse whore.... price? :p

[brendan1990]

I hear the amuse headers are great.

And I happen to have some for sale at the moment!

how much?

[vyets]

how much?

check his forsale thread for a quicker answer.

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?142810-S2000-parts.-Bonnet-Hardtop-AP2-console-headlights-wheels-exhaust%28manifold-back%29

shutup ben amuse is lameo LOL

[ludecrs]

The fact of the matter is not everyone can fork out a good 5k just for a FI setup outta nowhere, majority of the people who just got their cars will look into the most basic mods like intake and exhaust. Even if he does go with a i/h/e setup that will set him back what 2.5 - 3k still 2k under a bolt on turbo/sc. Even if he were to find a second hand kit he still needs the exhaust, and if he goes with sc he will still need the header and the exhaust so there really is no harm in buying it when you think about it.

Also Brendan here's a dyno graph of the mugen header on a stock 05 ap2 shoudl give you a rough idea
http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?act=module&module=gallery&cmd=viewimage&img=367633

I agree with this, but also disagree, to some degree. Have I said gree enough yet? :D

YOu can pick up a used Comptech / Vortech kit for about $2500 these days.
Bolt on 250whp stock boost no other mods.

After having both, I'd rather have FI with stock I/H/E (250whp) than a baller I/H/E (210whp if lucky). $ per gains FI will always win. We all know this.

But, as Vyets said, there is also no harm in buying a good quality brand name I/H/E in the short term, as it will only help long term if one decides to go FI.

[vyets]

that's the thing man, if someone is gonna go FI they aint gonna run stock header + exhaust that's just stupid, so they gonna need it anyway. Fi kits are so cheap these days really making me considerr LOLL

[JamieP]

brad, if you ever see spot one in good nick for that price.... please give me a heads up ;)