Blowing smoke need help???

[owens14]

I have a civic eg hatch 1.6 v tec my car is blowing smoke out of the exhaust and I'm finding I'm loosing oil but their is no sign of and oil leaks. I think it mite be my valve stem seals but I haven't had a look at it yet. Is their any other suggestions why this is happening cheers

[mytfoz]

im no machanic but heres my shot.
maybe its due to wear n tear.
rebuild would most likely fix that prob.

[vtecster]

how many ks on ur car? also what colour smoke? it may be from oil mixing with coolant which means u may have blown ur head gasket

[mugen_ctr]

without knowing what color the smoke is, odds are its either blown gasket or piston rings have started to give in, resulting in blow by smoke..... if its black smoke, its due to fuel mixture, running rich, white is oil problems an bluish is gasket problem, or was it other way around?

[owens14]

I have recently ordered a whole gasket kit so yeah hope fully that fixes it. I'm pretty sure it's black smoke aye. I'm hoping it nots seriouse haha

[owens14]

If it's running rich how do I fix that???

[owens14]

Actually it's bluey black haha. If I have blown my gasket wouldthat be the reason why I'm goig through so much oil. Car has less than 200 000 ks

[mugen_ctr]

could also mean ur rings have shat them selfs, an burning oil, resulting in lost of oil, thats the most common signs of needing a rebuild, u could run thicker oil to try an stop the smoke, but that would effect performance to keep the car a little bit longer till cash comes along

[owens14]

Yeah that's wat I was thinking of doing howthick do you rekon???

[mugen_ctr]

when my brother blew his turbo, an the seals where letting oil burn, he ran 20w-50 or was it 30w, cant remember but it helped a bit, BUT its not to say it will fix the problem, its a very minor banded solution, an one i dont recommend that u use for a long period of time, it could also harm the engine, so dont take my words lol....get a leak down test an compression test to varify the piston rings are indeed gone an this will tell you for sure if u need a rebuid or even a head gasket replacement

[owens14]

I was only going to run thicker for a week or two till my full gasket kit comes cause I bought it from the states so yeah. Thanx man

[fillit]

Didn't want to start a new thread so reviving this one.

I have a 1994 EG5 on 220xxx kms. It's currently blowing blueish white smoke + oil + fuel when I rev it past 6ishy RPMs. No smoke at the lights or normal driving.

So far I've done an oil change and ran a compression test, it returned 170 180 170 180, through a bit of research it seems I'm likely looking at worn piston rings and blown headgasket??

Nevertheless I'm all ears to opinions, this car is intended for the track, I really only bought it for the chassis (intending for a conversion) although it would have been nice to get some track time with the D series, I will weigh up how much it will cost me to fix and see if fast tracking the engine conversion would be the more economical solution.

Here is a pic of the blood swear and tears leaking from my eg.

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/546/20121207195840.jpg

[dougie_504]

Compression rings are good but your oil rings might be a little worn out. Very common to blow a little smoke at that high RPM, but if it's blue + white it could be both oil and coolant.

How much oil are you losing? What oil and thickness are you using?

And are you losing coolant too?


The muck in the picture just looks like regular condensation to me.

[dougie_504]

Oh and for a rebuild job you're probably looking at at least $1,000 for a dodgy backyard job or $2,000-3,000 for a good job. Gaskets/seals, fluids, bearings, machine shop labour (cleaning, examining parts, decking, potentially re-boreing, honing etc), disassembly/reassembly blah blah.

[mocchi]

Didn't want to start a new thread so reviving this one.

I have a 1994 EG5 on 220xxx kms. It's currently blowing blueish white smoke + oil + fuel when I rev it past 6ishy RPMs. No smoke at the lights or normal driving.

So far I've done an oil change and ran a compression test, it returned 170 180 170 180, through a bit of research it seems I'm likely looking at worn piston rings and blown headgasket??

Nevertheless I'm all ears to opinions, this car is intended for the track, I really only bought it for the chassis (intending for a conversion) although it would have been nice to get some track time with the D series, I will weigh up how much it will cost me to fix and see if fast tracking the engine conversion would be the more economical solution.

Here is a pic of the blood swear and tears leaking from my eg.

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/546/20121207195840.jpg

buy second hand y1 would do less damage to wallet

buy dear cry once buy cheap cry all the time id love to help but have 5 belts to do in 4 days fk it might js go to mexico or sumshit

be sure to change idlers seals and water pump any of these items fail ur back to square one or some bent valves

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[hmetro24]

that's absolutely oil, could be leaking through the exhaust valve or, worn oil piston rings.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads/intake_valve_pelican.JPG

[trism]

It's currently blowing blueish white smoke + oil + fuel

blueish white smoke is oil smoke.

But seriously, 220k kms, that sort of wear is to be expected if it wasnt maintainted properly in the past.

[Flabz2]

Wow tat looks rlly bad

[fillit]

I'm currently using 10 - 40w castrol magnatec, I haven't checked how much oil it's consumed as I don't drive it much (project car)

Coolant levels look okay, oil doesn't look milky and coolant is still green.

If it's not a DIY job, I wouldn't bother fixing it, I'll look for a b series conversion.. I was just hoping I could hit the tracks with the D16 a few times before I source a B18.

Personally speaking I don't even care if it blows, I'll just be annoyed if it does so at Winton as it's a $600 tow home (lesson learnt in my S14).

Would using thicker oil help?

[dougie_504]

Yes it would. My D16Y1 was blowing smoke on VTEC with Magnatec 10W-40 also. Compressing 180-175-180-185. Moved to Penrite 10W-50 full synthetic with the zinc additive to protect against camshaft lobe wear.

Considerably less smoke now. I only got back 2L on my last service (4,800KMs) from a 3.3L capacity. Will be interested to see what I get back next service with the Penrite.

[fillit]

could you advise what additive you used?

and i might add, there was fuel coming out with the oil!

[dougie_504]

Zinc additive is already in the oil sold by Penrite. You just pour it in :)

[Hellomotog]

gotta d16y4 with 90000 ks if your interested haha. going cheap

[fillit]

gotta d16y4 with 90000 ks if your interested haha. going cheap

thanks for offer, but if i had to replace the engine I would go B series :P

[DreadAngel]

could you advise what additive you used?

and i might add, there was fuel coming out with the oil!

If there is the smell of fuel or presence of fuel with the oil from sump etc, then you've got a seal issue ;)

Phil jai, just convert already la you lazy...

[salman_m5]

ma 200,000km eg4 hatch blows smoke when i cross 5k rpm..but this will only happen once i rev it tell max...next gear rev it again..no smoke..cold starts perfect after i fix the famous flooding choke problem..did a temporary fix which is a permanent fix for me..no use changin the choke system..was using castrol 15w40 earlier changing at every 5k..no harsh driving or high revings...was not satisfies with it..car would feel a bit rough after 3500km or so..used nulon 15w-40...gud oil..car felt lot lot better..plus it feel light..but i think bcoz of the nulons anti frictioin addictive it did burn oil..probably 1-1.5 ltr per 5000km..now m using castrol 15w-50...lil bit thick..but the engine sound is smooth now....no starting issues..lets see how much oil does it burn now..oh forgot to mention i use liqui moly MOS2 with every oil change..it's been a habbit before even i cam to to australia..

[RackCity]

my ed with a d16y1 is blowing smoke on vtec and my oil doesnt seem milky so hopefully its not the head gasket. (plus my coolant doesnt seem to go down)

is it really not worth the time to replace valve seals if they are gone? everyone tells me to not bother with a d series but i would like this car to last a while longer.

im currently using any cheap 20w-50 oil i can get

[Anon22]

ive noticed alot of d16y1 start burning oil after 200,000 kms lol

[dougie_504]

For interest's sake I got 2.2L of the Penrite HPR10 10W-50 back after 5,200KMs.

Castrol Magnatec 10W-40 returned 2L after 4,800KMs.

Happier with the Penrite. Better oil too.