automotive paints

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Hi

i am looking at puchasing some paint respray my car, I have already organised my spray painter now just need to purchase paint. what are ppls thoughts and recommendations on value for money paint systems. most of the car will be sprayed properly, I am not bothering with engineering bay.

Paint code: Kaiser silver NH-546M

Kris.

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hello to ozhonda. can i get some help or is this question too difficult?

[m3ntAL_l2]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=diy+car+painting+guide

zOmg so hard

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real mature! have common decency to help google is not the answere to everything. and what u dont think i have. i can tell u that there isn't alot of info! if ur going to post a reply relate it to f*/)ing question.

[xclusive_eg8]

What sort of parts bud? Have you any spray experience?

[mugen_ctr]

if doin plastics, best to use a plastic primer, as iev found out the hard way

with spray paint, i always use mixed paint thats mixed to my actual color an not some color thats sorta close to it, if that makes sense... with paint thats mixed with the color code, its always gonna be %100 match

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What sort of parts bud? Have you any spray experience?

no experience

front and rear bar side skirts front n rear lips all door moulds mirrors and the rear black number plate mould.

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I have been looking at spray booth and came across this:

http://sydney.gumtree.com.au/c-Business-Services-building-trades-other-building-trades-Professional-Spray-painting-and-Wheel-Rim-repair-W0QQAdIdZ211846370

will be calling to get a price on respray but just outside inc front and rear bar side skirts front n rear lips all door moulds mirrors and the rear black number plate mould.

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has any1 had a respray with the standox waterborne paint system?

[xclusive_eg8]

For a closed door job you'd be looking at about 2k minimum. Alot of guys say o yea I'l do it cheaper and then you end up with well a cheap half assed job. Honestly man, your not spraying alot and most panel shops charge around $110 to paint a bar. But a mixed acrylic arOsol can will do the job, you've just gota learn up on how to do a good job. And practise practise practise, it ain't hard

[xclusive_eg8]

For a closed door job you'd be looking at about 2k minimum. Alot of guys say o yea I'l do it cheaper and then you end up with well a cheap half assed job. Honestly man, your not spraying alot and most panel shops charge around $110 to paint a bar. But a mixed acrylic arOsol can will do the job, you've just gota learn up on how to do a good job. And practise practise practise, it ain't hard. Btw there's a detailed DIY in the DIY section here

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omg that was awesome lol i bookmarked that thing

irrelevant to thread i guess you dont read!

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For a closed door job you'd be looking at about 2k minimum. Alot of guys say o yea I'l do it cheaper and then you end up with well a cheap half assed job. Honestly man, your not spraying alot and most panel shops charge around $110 to paint a bar. But a mixed acrylic arOsol can will do the job, you've just gota learn up on how to do a good job. And practise practise practise, it ain't hard. Btw there's a detailed DIY in the DIY section here

Ye i looked at that...its a bit harder since it bumper bars as well. colour matching etc. It needs to be completely rubbed back. there is a mark on it that you can see the black. The rear has the paint pealing off (hit and run) a hole! Neeta City!!!

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so we have no spray painters on this forum?

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so we have no spray paimters on this forum?

why do you need one?

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i want know about paints the only info i could find was on ppg no real info just sales. looked up dupont refinishing, standox. im trying to find a paint system that is value for money. for eg should i go waterbased or solvent. what brands are ppl using is readily available.

[mocchi]

i want know about paints the only info i could find was on ppg no real info just sales. looked up dupont refinishing, standox. im trying to find a paint system that is value for money. for eg should i go waterbased or solvent. what brands are ppl using is readily available.

you gonna paint yourself or pay someone?

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you gonna paint yourself or pay someone?

trying to work out if it going be worth me doing it in a spray booth or just supplying paint and primer for plastic d the car an getting someone to do it coz its staying the same colour vogue silver or just giving it to someone to supply and paint. i would like factory finish or better.

[mocchi]

pay someone to do it, dont bother trying to spray yourself if you dont have:
*compressor
*paint gun
*thinner
*primer
*basecoat
*painter's tape
*orbital buffer
*buffing compound
*loads of sandpaper
*time

to have factory finish or better is expensive. if you wanna do it yourself, its much better to use urethane paint (2pack).
painting urethane at home is very expensive as you need full face mask with independent positive pressure air supply, not cartridge/bayonet type filters.

get someone to paint it for you at workshops, check their previous work as your assurance.

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pay someone to do it, dont bother trying to spray yourself if you dont have:
*compressor
*paint gun
*thinner
*primer
*basecoat
*painter's tape
*orbital buffer
*buffing compound
*loads of sandpaper
*time

to have factory finish or better is expensive. if you wanna do it yourself, its much better to use urethane paint (2pack).
painting urethane at home is very expensive as you need full face mask with independent positive pressure air supply, not cartridge/bayonet type filters.

get someone to paint it for you at workshops, check their previous work as your assurance.

I've been looking around at resprays ppl tend rip you off. ok 65% of the work is sanding. its purley a skin job. i would rather find a paint n supply it.

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i read that the standox 1 is a water based paint a littler more expensive but coverage is really good n no flash is required between coats and used when sprsying prestige cars like bmw mercs audi etc.

[mocchi]

I've been looking around at resprays ppl tend rip you off. ok 65% of the work is sanding. its purley a skin job. i would rather find a paint n supply it.

if that is what you would rather do then buy ppg paint, they're good. or dupont.
no paint will come out good if painter is dumbass.

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if that is what you would rather do then buy ppg paint, they're good. or dupont.
no paint will come out good if painter is dumbass.

i might give concord customs a ring n check with them on pricing agian. they to change coulour is from 4k. has any1 ever gone through insurance and got a full respray?

[reelmick]

Hello blabla If you go back a few pages you will find a thread where i asked ffor the paint code sticker and had a helpfull reply .500mls of night pearl &1ltr. clear which yuo have to use cost me $50,i got a trade disc. supercheap have a special now for premium acrl. thinners $17 odd .Down low is the right place to practice,keep paint dry between coats .Mick

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Hello blabla If you go back a few pages you will find a thread where i asked ffor the paint code sticker and had a helpfull reply .500mls of night pearl &1ltr. clear which yuo have to use cost me $50,i got a trade disc. supercheap have a special now for premium acrl. thinners $17 odd .Down low is the right place to practice,keep paint dry between coats .Mick

New Vogue Silver Metallic NH-583M

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sorry to revive an old thread has anyone used the concept paint system if so how was the finish also the same deal with protec paint system.

thanks

[da12nv]

hi im a pianter on this forum and dont touch concept paints they are shit ive used it once ande never again protec is ok for a cheaper paint system but the best 2 paint systems out there are ppg which im currently using and spies hecker. As for waterbourne vs solvent based there are pros and cons to both but mainly its about cutting down on solvents so an environmental issure it isnt compulsory to use waterbase over solvent base yet but they will be almost identical other than waterbourne goes on abit flatter and its only the colour that is waterbourne not the clear its still solvent based.

By the sounds of it you want to respray your car now it will cost you about 3-4g to get a good finish any cheaper than that and it will be a half assed job as the people doing it wont care. buying the paint yourself you will be more likely paying more and would be better off just paying a shop to do it for you. If you have any other questions msg me and ill fill you in

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what are some places that will sell paint to the public. I know of na colour Greenacre, protec Minto & vg auto paint.

[chauster]

Ok OP.

You are a fkn rude prick which is probably why no one will help you.

But on that being sad I will help you
The paint systems I've used, I'm a spray painter, are PPG, Du Pont and Spies Hecker.

PPG is probably the cheapest you'll find cause they are the most used by Refinishers in Australia. Dupont is i think german and spies hecker is somewhere in Europe.

PPG you can buy at most paint suppliers. I don't live in NSW so i can't tell you which ones you should go to.
PPG is feel that the coverage is not very good on. It takes a good 3 wet coats to cover the patches where as Spies Hecker is one of the MOST expensive paint system around. It gives you best coverage and best result. DUpont for its price is good its about average for everything.

For Primer i've used Spies Hecker, PPG and Mipa. Spies Hecker and PPG primer are both very good but very expensive in saying that. Mipa is good for just the everyday job. IF you are doing your car for the show I would advise you use PPG primer. The code is D839 which is 5:1 i believe. THen you rub it back with 240 and run a surfacer whcih is D839 with 10% reducer.

Clear coat you can use the very cheap Dulux but it gives you a slight yellow tinge but its cheap and affordable. Dupont entry clear is probably your bang for buck.

If you are just respraying your car for a nice finish just go over your car with 1 dust coat of colour and then pack on the clear, about 3 coats.
First you need to scuff all your panels with some grey scoth brite and some scuffing paste then paint.
Remember to Wax and grease remover on all your panels with a clean cloth and then tack rag it before to remove all the excess dirt and dust on your panels.

hope it helps you OP. When your asking for help maybe it helps not to be a dick.

[chauster]

hi im a pianter on this forum and dont touch concept paints they are shit ive used it once ande never again protec is ok for a cheaper paint system but the best 2 paint systems out there are ppg which im currently using and spies hecker. As for waterbourne vs solvent based there are pros and cons to both but mainly its about cutting down on solvents so an environmental issure it isnt compulsory to use waterbase over solvent base yet but they will be almost identical other than waterbourne goes on abit flatter and its only the colour that is waterbourne not the clear its still solvent based.

By the sounds of it you want to respray your car now it will cost you about 3-4g to get a good finish any cheaper than that and it will be a half assed job as the people doing it wont care. buying the paint yourself you will be more likely paying more and would be better off just paying a shop to do it for you. If you have any other questions msg me and ill fill you in

Waterborne is fkn shit. If you dunno how to paint i would definately stay away from it. You'll get silcone and runs. You'll be crying. It definitely costs more for waterborne too. IN the end you're still using solvent based clear on top so theres no point.

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chauster - so you don't think concept and protec are good paint systems? what about the brand of paint that da12nv suggested? the finish I am looking for showroom or better no show car. I will check with trivett and Peter Warren to see how much the paint would be at trade price as I work for a company that deliverers part for them.

[chauster]

yeah spies hecker. tahts what im using now. its best. very expensive. look it up.I know that APS supplies it.

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yeah spies hecker. tahts what im using now. its best. very expensive. look it up.I know that APS supplies it.

hey sorry I ment the metalux2 which he pmed me. he said its buy hi chem.

[chauster]

I couldn't tell you. I never used them or heard of them.