hub rings

[Lukey]

hullo ladies & gentleman.

i am using a set of 17" volk GR-C wheels atm.

my problem is the center part of the wheel is bigger than the hub and i need to manually locate the wheel and put the wheel nuts in. which i think is putting undue stress on the actual lugs and not the hub itself?

now i went to bob janes (lol) and got some hub rings but they dont fit properly into the wheel properly, so i was wondering if anyone knew where i could get some that would fit properly?

or i modify the ones i got a bit?

thanks y'all

p.s. my wheels dont have any center caps, anyone able to source them?

p.p.s. the wheel nuts on are pretty ratty and shit now and i had to replace one today, the one i got at autobarn (lol) is about 20-30mm longer than the ones i got now so it sticks out a bit more, anyone know where to buy smaller ones?

[markismaximus]

I find ebay US has the most variety of hub rings, both in polycarbonate and aluminium. I've bought 2 sets previously

http://shop.ebay.com.au/i.html?LH_AvailTo=15&_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1%257C 72%253A2392&rt=nc&_nkw=hub+rings&_dmpt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&_ipg=200&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14.l1514

you'll first need to accurately measure the size of the wheel. Make sure when you measure the wheels you measure the diameter of the hole closest to the mounting surface (as some wheels are stepped)

Not sure what car its for but I think two common honda hub sizes are 56.1mm (civic-accord) or 64.1mm (tegs-new accords etc)

measure your hubs or OEM wheel to make sure you're getting the correct ID size

[Lukey]

im confused by the measuring, any pics to show me how to do it?

[markismaximus]

measure this on your hub. This is the ID of the hub ring

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/hub.jpg

and measure the red arrow for the OD of the hub ring

make sense?

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/mx83cressida/hub2.jpg

[Lukey]

yea i think so. will have to try it tomorrow at work with a proper measuring device (vernier caliper?)

[Lukey]

heres some photos i took.

print on the inside of the hub ring.
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7945/72879451.jpg

fits nice and perfectly snug over the hub.
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/8233/21395235.jpg

how it sits on the rim.
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/1803/99683764.jpg
http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/2446/30488594.jpg

hub with ruler lol.
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/904/55695124.jpg

ruler on rim lol.
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/2345/18762371.jpg

now with measuring the rim, do i measure from the black lines or white lines? if this makes sense? you can see the different spot at the top part of it.
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8985/49026672.jpg

[markismaximus]

the ID of the hubring you have is correct, but the OD in wrong as its very loose on the wheel

[geeang]

EG/EK/DC hub size = 56.1
Your wheels hub looks to be 76.1

[Lukey]

ahk. one thing i did notice was that, even if it did fill up the wheel hub it was to high for it, if that makes sense?

[Lukey]

i seem to be able to find lots of hub rings with a OD of 73.1mm but not 76.1mm :(

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Hub-Centric-Rings-OD-73-1mm-ID-56-1mm-Subaru-Honda-/180601337620?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a0cadb714
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Hub-Centric-Rings-OD-73-1mm-ID-56-1mm-Subaru-Honda-/180602386788?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a0cbdb964

[Lukey]

dont think i was looking hard enough lol.

found these.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HUB-CENTRIC-RING-RINGS-SPACERS-OD-76mm-ID-56-1mm-/130253083660?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e53b0540c#shId

reckon they will work?

[markismaximus]

possibly. how deep is that step on the wheel?

[Lukey]

im not sure, will check when i whip a wheel off after work tomorrow when im giving the car a go over.

none of them say how deep they are.

[markismaximus]

worst case you could a fitter and turner to turn you some custom aluminum ones. They will however cost more than off the shelf plastic ones.

You may have to though, that step doesn't look overly deep

[Lukey]

my mate is an apprentice fitter & turner and he said hed make some for me :)

i might grab those 76mm ones and see how they go.

[Lukey]

measured a wheel at 76.5, the lip was about 5.5ml

[markismaximus]

you will need custom ones, with that lip only being 5.5mm standard ones wont work.

do you know any stores in AUS that sell new volk rims? if there is you could always ask what hubrings (if any) they usually recommend. definitely a pain in the ass though.

[r3ckless]

I've read on different forums that hub rings should be used when using aftermarket wheels witha larger center bore, however I also know of many drivers who regularly track their cars with aftermarket wheels and dont use hub rings at all. Myself, would rather purchase hub rings as its a small insurance to make sure the wheel is tightly secured at an even proportion to all studs.

[Lukey]

these are the first aftermarket wheels ive had that have had a bigger centre bore than my stock hub. gonna be getting a mate to make me some as he is an apprentice fitter & turner

[Bludger]

I bought some generic hub rings from ozzy tires.

there were two sizes, the bigger one was too big, the smaller one was too small.

I just got the closest one and forced it in. they are plastic and will expand/contract with heat/cold.

Even though i hads to use a little bit of force to getthem in, i think they will suffice.

[RtN]

well thats even better if you have to force it in.. means it will sit very flush which is what you want in hub rings. Sometimes it may just be the dirt or whateva inside rims.. a light sanding will clean it up.

[nd55]

Stamford helped me out with my hub rings.

I don't think they carry a huge range though, nor do the normally do retail.

Best bet is mail order


http://www.stamfordtyres.com.au/

Nick.

[migoreng]

Just got new wheels. car seems to drive fine on the motorway at 110kph or faster. There are no bad vibrations. Should I still get hub rings within the new few days?
A BB6 Prelude has a 64.1 bore I think...My wheels have a bore of 72.62..

Would Bobjane/JaxQuickFit order them and do you know what the prices would be like for a set of 4? I might give em a visit next Mon/Tue...

[chargeR]

I wouldn't tell anyone outright to not use hubcentric rings with aftermarket wheels but I have never had any issues with non hubcentric wheels all the way to 200km/h and above. No vibrations, nothing. I always use a torque wrench and tighten my wheel nuts in stages ensuring the wheel ends up centred on the hub. If however you are someone that doesn't pay attention to tightening their wheel nuts correctly then it is probably a good idea to have hubcentric wheels/rings as extra insurance. They are not essential and not using them does not present a safety issue as long as one is careful.

Also anyone that states that the load resting only on the studs is unsafe is honestly an idiot. It is a massive fallacy that wheels must be hubcentric in order to transfer suspension loads directly from the ewheel centreborre to the hub spigot. There should be no load in shear on the wheel studs when the nuts are properly torqued in a star pattern and the wheel is centred on the hub, this is because all the load from wheel to hub is transferred in the frictional interface between the back of the wheel hub and the hub/rotor face. All the studs/nuts do is clamp the wheel to the hub surface so that this friction is sufficient to transfer all the load from wheel/tyre to the hub/suspension.

[migoreng]

Anything wrong with polycarbonate hub rings? Just can't find metal/aluminium ones anywhere...Still waiting for replies from a few more online stores.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350095187563

HUB CENTRIC RING RINGS SPACERS OD=72.62mm / ID=64.1mm
THIS LISTING IS FOR 1 SET OF 4, NEW POLYCARBONATE HUB CENTRIC RINGS

[dorikin]

the hub ring he bought is 67.1 - 56.1 its even printed on one of the pics he posted

so your ID is 56.1 (honda hub size for eg/ek etc)

you need to get the right OD now... measure the center hole of the wheel, not the white or black lines but the actual hole. Should be somewhere between 56-65mm roughly, if its smaller than 56 you're screwed

[type_AHH]

Which hub rings are better/safer, polycarbonate or aluminium?

[migoreng]

I've had my plastic hub rings on for 2 months or so. They still look fine when I rotated my wheels a week ago...
People generally say plastic cracks/melts and metal rusts..
I will have to see for myself how the plastic rings turn out by the end of the year...

[nd55]

> People generally say plastic cracks/melts and metal rusts..

Aluminium is not normally associated with rusting, but I had mine sieze in place in a very short time.

Not really an issue until you need to throw on a spare wheel/space saver which do not fit with the hub rings in place.

You'll appreciate plastic the very first time you have to carry a tire to the shop for a puncture repair.

Not had a problem with plastic yet.

Nick.

[type_AHH]

I've also been using plastic hub rings for the past month now. For those interested, it was these: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280615794843&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

DC5R has a bore size of 64.1mm. My Work Emotion CR Kai's that I got recently have a bore of 73.3mm (I emailed Work to get that exact measurement), so this size will be perfect if your aftermarket rims are 73mm also