yellow dc2r

[croanth]

hey guys just wondering if anyone else has come accross this dc2r before on carsales?
yes i know high km's :)

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?trecs=39&tsrc=allcarhome&__Ntk=CarAll&Cr=8&__Ntt=type%20r&R=9836244&seot=1&silo=1011&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_PriceSort_Decimal |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=type%20r&__D=type%20r&__sid=12D6A1266723&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294965322% 20412%20903&PriceTo=412&__Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&__Qpb=true&__Nne=15&__Dx=mode%20matchany

[SuperJDM.]

honestly that looks so clean. the engine bay looks new as ****. only thing wrong is the Ks but then again dont know if its been in a accident.
Go check it out your self man, cant really go wrong with the price.

[croanth]

honestly that looks so clean. the engine bay looks new as ****. only thing wrong is the Ks but then again dont know if its been in a accident.
Go check it out your self man, cant really go wrong with the price.

yeah true that man !
i get bored working at autobarn so do this in my free time =D
yeah looks clean.
and one owner :S

[Mikecivic78]

looks good, but I say bargain hard due to Kms. Also, has 200,000 service been done? factor that into cost.

Can u afford insurance? Type R premium is sky high.

[croanth]

looks good, but I say bargain hard due to Kms. Also, has 200,000 service been done? factor that into cost.

Can u afford insurance? Type R premium is sky high.


i work at autobarn so parts are nothing ;) haha
yeah i know but the insurance is so high.

[croanth]

just found out its vti-r ...
:(

http://www.vehiclestatuscheck.vicroads.vic.gov.au/RegistrationConfirmation.aspx

[SuperJDM.]

lol wtf

[Toilet]

Oh my, that thing is clean as. If it was a vti-r originally, im stoked.

[willtran]

holyfux.. the owner did a dam good job making it look like an r!

[GSi_PSi]

how is it a VTiR? might have a VTiR engine or JDM B18C engine B18C XXXXXX

[tiah313]

it looks real for me

[croanth]

how is it a VTiR? might have a VTiR engine or JDM B18C engine B18C XXXXXX

its a mock up lol.
pretty sure when you got a jdm b18c, under engine number they dont put a 7 or 2 next to it for that purpose. so you clearly know its a jdm b18c.

but hmmm its a very good mock.

[Indie]

Looks clean as ****. What a dick though, seriously. Lying prick.

[kevster]

that looks original! you sure? vic roads havent made a mistake ? would have been one of the first type r's

[croanth]

that looks original! you sure? vic roads havent made a mistake ?

pretty sure its mock up man,
i double checked and same thing comes up on vic roads (N)

[kevster]

that guy must have spent a fortune , looks like the original type r stereo , no mouldings on the sides 5 stud wheels registration even looks right for 1999 only thing i picked was a bend in the radiator support near the bonnet catch , could have taken a hit at the front , if you put my car side by side couldnt pick it

[Mr.DC2]

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?133408-Type-R-VIN-and-Engine-numbers.&
pretty sure its a geniune type r
the cars vin reads it, its just a b18c2 motor

[Mattski_VTIR]

At a guess, i would say its a genuine type r. if you notice the boot has the type r supports, not easily fitted to a vtir, also check underneath the rear end, if it has the support bracket on the subframe then chances are shes real, also the vtir's have door moulds down the side, another costly experience to remove.
there are a few ways to tell if its a b18c2, intake manifold is a dead giveaway and cylinderhead markings, pretty sure vtir is P72. The transmition, it will have LSD printed on it somewere if it is genuine type r box. Another good way to tell is if you see the car in the flesh have a look under the carpet at the front, if it has sound deadening then someone has gone to way to much effort to convert. If its been removed you will notice!!
hope this helps!!!

[michaelz]

yes i don't believe that's a mock up. go look at it first in person, it should be pretty obvious once you see the engine markings. from the pic you can already see it's got the type R intake manifold. take it for a test drive if you still have doubts, if you've ever driven a VTIR you will notice the difference between it and a genuine R.

[WATAJK]

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?133408-Type-R-VIN-and-Engine-numbers.&
pretty sure its a geniune type r
the cars vin reads it, its just a b18c2 motor

I've seen it around...
Looks very sweet... Way to much effort and money spent to try....
You wouldn't be making anything out of it...
Old motor has probably shit itself or another explanation...
Im sure if you went and actually inspected the car and spoke to the owner GENUINELY, they actually might tell you the possible story behind the car?? (Why it contains a B18C2 instead of the B18C7)

[dc2r-0636]

wtf that looks like a genuine type r... rear seats look suss tho, got blue in em

[Mikecivic78]

From the pics it does look stock and genuine. I did however, see that the rear seats had blue in them.

Pics can be deceiving.

Could possibly be a scam.

As above: view it yourself and ask about the Vic Roads check to the owner.

[croanth]

thanks guys
yeahh its a hard one :)

[p3akin]

not saying it its not a dc2r.. but no dc2r floor mats?

[croanth]

not saying it its not a dc2r.. but no dc2r floor mats?

yeah i noticed that too.
the guy mentioned it was one owner,,
soo wouldnt you think they came with

[dc2r-0636]

i THINK that floor mats were optional. take it for a test drive, see wat it cuts out at, should be hitting the limiter just under 9000rpm, vtir will be like 8100 or something

[croanth]

thanks for all the support guys :)

[dc2r-0636]

you can call honda and give them the details, they will tell you if it is genuine :)

[Mikecivic78]

Agreed. Call Honda Australia or send em an email. http://www.honda.com.au/contact-us.aspx

[mnc]

Rear seats are blue Because they Have been sitting in the sun for awhile and have faded. Seen this happen a few times already.

Car is probably parked outside regularly and by the looks of it, It has no tint to protect from the harsh UV rays.

[anzai]

could be a vicroads typo, wont know until you see the motor number in person.

i did a vicroads search on this:

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?Cr=6&R=9329960&keywords=&trecs=17&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&__sid=12BDC2A9CE10&__Nne=15&__Qpb=true&seot=1&__N=1216%201247%201252%201282%204294965105%2042949 65322%204294921591%20903&silo=1011

wtf is a B1807?

[Mikecivic78]

could be a vicroads typo, wont know until you see the motor number in person.

i did a vicroads search on this:

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?Cr=6&R=9329960&keywords=&trecs=17&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&__sid=12BDC2A9CE10&__Nne=15&__Qpb=true&seot=1&__N=1216%201247%201252%201282%204294965105%2042949 65322%204294921591%20903&silo=1011

wtf is a B1807?

i think he meant to say B18C7: Aussie delivered ITR motor.

[anzai]

i think he meant to say B18C7: Aussie delivered ITR motor.

no, i meant the vicroads check came out with a motor number of B1807

http://www.vehiclestatuscheck.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Default.aspx

do a search on this car's rego:

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?Cr=6&R=9329960&keywords=&trecs=17&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&__sid=12BDC2A9CE10&__Nne=15&__Qpb=true&seot=1&__N=1216%201247%201252%201282%204294965105%2042949 65322%204294921591%20903&silo=1011

my point was vicroads could've been in the wrong as the person who entered the details initially might have made a typo

[tiah313]

its front bumper been respray, colour is different

[EG52NV]

I thought easiest way to tell is that all VTi-R's came with factory sunroof?

[tiah313]

I thought easiest way to tell is that all VTi-R's came with factory sunroof?

oh yea no one point that out hahaha

[anzai]

i rkn its a real type r.

SHOTGUN. back off or get shot ;)

[Bulbasaur]

pop the bonnet and have a look inside the engine bay left of the air box on the driver side fender wall. if there is a glory hole for the intake it is a normal integra if not its real. type R's draw cold air from inside the fender not the engine bay, im sure of this unless its different for audm and usdm meaning ive been on team integra too much :[

and i think that the piping for the resonator is 2 piece not 3 piece for type r but i dont think were going to take it that far lol

[1900-hustler]

Agreed. Call Honda Australia or send em an email. http://www.honda.com.au/contact-us.aspx

just do this man.. easiest way to find out..

but if its not a real R id be really suprised

[chargeR]

I also would be surprised if that car is not genuine. Vicroads make errors all the time.

[SuperJDM.]

I also would be surprised if that car is not genuine. Vicroads make errors all the time.

but vic roads put it down as not genuine isnt it?

[michaelz]

but vic roads put it down as not genuine isnt it?

lol what? they didn't claim genuine or not genuine. in fact those idiots wouldn't have a clue about it. the OP simply made the assumption it's fake due to the engine number which the VICroads online search returned.

[SuperJDM.]

lol what? they didn't claim genuine or not genuine. in fact those idiots wouldn't have a clue about it. the OP simply made the assumption it's fake due to the engine number which the VICroads online search returned.

maybe im tripping out, but i remember reading somewhere that stated that the car is a VTIR after they check on vicroads site :S

[NightKids]

lol what? they didn't claim genuine or not genuine. in fact those idiots wouldn't have a clue about it. the OP simply made the assumption it's fake due to the engine number which the VICroads online search returned.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that the same thing as VicRoads saying it's fake?

[chargeR]

but vic roads put it down as not genuine isnt it?

The vehicle status check from Vicroads doesn't state that the car is a VtiR, they simply have the engine number recorded as a B18C2 which I think is almost definitely a typographical error. Vicroads often make mistakes like this, the last car I bought had the incorrect engine number and VIN number recorded with Vicroads. The original poster should go and check out the car because if it still has the B18C7 and it is a genuine one owner car with no damage then it could be a decent buy.

[SuperJDM.]

ah i see,

yeah my cousins old em1 says b18 on the rego sticker lol

[Bludger]

looks rwal to me

[integraR]

I'm pretty sure that this is a legit ITR but with a Vtir engine
it's a real type r b/c the vin number is JHMDC2310YS200305 the number 1 after the 3 indicates that it's a type r if it was a vtir the 1 would be an 8.

this link will help decode the vin number http://www.civicforums.com/forums/31-canada-east/48382-who-knows-how-decode-vin-number.html

[michaelz]

it's not the first time this has happened. there's a link in this thread of another guy who had the same thing. vicroads register returning a B18C2 engine number for a Type R. maybe it was case of honda japan having problems keeping up with demand so they shipped a few type Rs here with a VTIR block or something like that. doesn't necessarily mean the internals are VTIR. could have ITR pistons inside etc.

that mystery was never solved but i wouldn't write this car off as definitely having a VTIR engine. someone needs to go check it out, check engine markings etc. lastly a test drive. VTEC should come on later but harder than a VTIR and pull all the way to 8400rpm.

[infurNOS]

it's not the first time this has happened. there's a link in this thread of another guy who had the same thing. vicroads register returning a B18C2 engine number for a Type R. maybe it was case of honda japan having problems keeping up with demand so they shipped a few type Rs here with a VTIR block or something like that. doesn't necessarily mean the internals are VTIR. could have ITR pistons inside etc.



Honda are dodgey if they had to ship them out with VTiR block, its a completely different engine number which means registeration places would have 2 different "B18C2" engine specs. Most possibly something has happened to the original type R block and the owner just chucked in a B18C2 motor to keep the displacement and not have to worry about re registering it/getting an engineering certificate. The new engine number would point out to VIC roads the decrease in power, compared to the type R number (well thats how ti works in SA anyway) and the owner can still safely state to buyers that it is a 1.8L, with out the potential buyer knowing the wiser if they didnt know their Type Rs

OP - care to share the engine and VIN number?

A previous thread

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?139565-help-please-!-!-is-this-really-a-dc2R-!/page2

[infurNOS]

Also what is the number on the Transmission? And does the head say pr3 or p72??

[geeang]

Is everyone blind? Just looking at the picture of the engine from the carsales ad is enough to tell it's not a B18C2 (just take a glance at the intake manifold + throttle cable).

For the km's that is one immaculate looking DC2R, still has the original labels over the reservoirs and spark cover - rocker cover isn't faded or peeling from extended heating, paint in the bay looks super clean and tidy.
Interior also looks to be in good condition, steering wheel looks decent for the age/kms and the dash is clean as you can get.

From the pictures alone I would definately say the car is worth checking out at least.

[infurNOS]

Is everyone blind? Just looking at the picture of the engine from the carsales ad is enough to tell it's not a B18C2 (just take a glance at the intake manifold + throttle cable).



We are discussing if its just a B18c2 block...not a complete engine, it could still be a type R head (and very much looks like one), hence the IM and top radiator hose..

[croanth]

just spoke to the owner, his claiming that vic roads made a mistake with the engine code :S ?

[geeang]

Exactly what chargeR has been saying all along.


I also would be surprised if that car is not genuine. Vicroads make errors all the time.


The vehicle status check from Vicroads doesn't state that the car is a VtiR, they simply have the engine number recorded as a B18C2 which I think is almost definitely a typographical error. Vicroads often make mistakes like this, the last car I bought had the incorrect engine number and VIN number recorded with Vicroads. The original poster should go and check out the car because if it still has the B18C7 and it is a genuine one owner car with no damage then it could be a decent buy.

[Bludger]

We are discussing if its just a B18c2 block...not a complete engine, it could still be a type R head (and very much looks like one), hence the IM and top radiator hose..
Didn't know you could whack a type R head on a c2 block.

[Mikecivic78]

just spoke to the owner, his claiming that vic roads made a mistake with the engine code :S ?

All due respect but have you actually gone out and seen and driven the car? Or are you just wasting everyones time?

This thread has been going for a while. If you are a serious buyer you would have done it already.

[Bludger]

LOOKS real to me!!!!!!

[croanth]

All due respect but have you actually gone out and seen and driven the car? Or are you just wasting everyones time?

This thread has been going for a while. If you are a serious buyer you would have done it already.

ive been working 7 days a week man with heaps of over time, and soccer training 4 days a week, i just havent had the time man im spewing :(

wouldnt call it wasting peoples time, just making people aware of what i had spotted man

[Bludger]

looks real to me

[geeang]

So really, you just made this thread because you were bored?

[Bludger]

looks real to me.

[lilthug]

i think Bludger thinks its real

[EVLGTR]

hey guys just wondering if anyone else has come accross this dc2r before on carsales?
yes i know high km's :)


When you wonder around, it means your bored LOL. How do you think this owner feels when ppl having to plant a seed of doubt about his car?. lol

[croanth]

guys was just a question seriously ?

get over it

thanks to all the guys that had something decent to say.

[1900-hustler]

so did you get the car?

[bennyboy]

guys was just a question seriously ?

get over it

thanks to all the guys that had something decent to say.

Hey mate,

Can you please clear your inbox so I can send you more details

cheers,
b

[bennyboy]

One more time mate, trying to reply but I cant =)