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i_jazz_u
13-01-2011, 03:19 PM
which is better, both dohc, both 1.6ltr. have watch on youtube lol as fair as i seen d16a8 appears to be fast? im not saying d16a8 is faster then b16 or the other way round. just wants to know the pros and cons.

JDM-EGG
13-01-2011, 03:25 PM
lol i had a d16a8 , with CAI , headers and just a muffler axle back

and ive smashed b16a's and sr20's , supra v6 non turbos easy !!

mugen_ctr
13-01-2011, 03:31 PM
really u smashed sr20? u mean sr20de, that i can belive lol

B16a2 is much better engine, thats a fact! its newer, better power per liter, torque, drive train, cylinder head design, vtec intergration etc...

As much as i love D-series motor, B-series is the better performer

JDM-EGG
13-01-2011, 03:38 PM
really u smashed sr20? u mean sr20de, that i can belive lol

B16a2 is much better engine, thats a fact! its newer, better power per liter, torque, drive train, cylinder head design, vtec intergration etc...

As much as i love D-series motor, B-series is the better performer

settle settle u know what i mean

yes b series is better but hey .. d16a8 is still a hectic engine !

mugen_ctr
13-01-2011, 03:50 PM
hahaha yea i get you.... but yea id love to play around with a d16a8, since not many ppl have em, an plus it was the base for the b16

A boosted d16a8 would make wonders for any one

JohnnyJohnJohn
13-01-2011, 03:50 PM
I've got a D16A8 as much as I love it I would go for the B16, unless your planning on boosting the D16, but even then a boosted B16 would be more feasable? and it has vtec! but thats just my personal opinion

tiah313
13-01-2011, 03:59 PM
i thought d16 got vtec too, lol coz i hear some kinda crossover with d16 on youtube

integragsi96
13-01-2011, 04:07 PM
d16y1 is a sohc vtec
d16a8 is a dohc non vtec

mugen_ctr
13-01-2011, 04:07 PM
D16 y1 an y8 vtec models, d16a8 twin cam non-vtec

Oh utube vids... reminds me of those kids who hooked up pipes into there cabin to hear the cross over lol

i_jazz_u
13-01-2011, 04:07 PM
some d series have vtec, lol i always thought d16a8 did have vtec crossover, just wana compare it to b16

integragsi96
13-01-2011, 04:09 PM
some d series have vtec, i know d16a8 does, just wana compare it to b16

sorry mate its a dohc non vtec

i_jazz_u
13-01-2011, 04:11 PM
fair enough, cant complain lol, well nother question d16a8 vs d16y?

integragsi96
13-01-2011, 04:22 PM
gonna get mixed feelings about that one mate...basically the same power. btu the d16y1 has 9hp more at the fly and has the vtec crossover what people love but heres the specs:
D16A8Found in:
1988-1995 Civic/CRX/Concerto (UK/Europe/Australia)
1992-1995 Rover 216/416 GTi(UK/Europe)
1993-1997 Rover 216 SportCoupe (Europe)
Displacement : 1,590 cc (97 cu in)
Bore and Stroke : 75 × 90 mm (3.0 × 3.5 in)
Compression : 9.5:1
Power : 120 hp (90 kW, 127 ps) @ 6800 rpm
Torque : 108 ft·lbf (14.9 kg/m, 146 Nm) @ 5900 rpm
Valvetrain : DOHC (4 valves per cylinder)
Fuel Control : OBD-0 MPFI
ECU Code : PP5
Gearbox : L3

D16Y1Found in :
1992-1995 Honda Civic VTi (AUS)
Displacement : 1,590 cc (97 cu in)
Bore and Stroke : 75 × 90 mm (3.0 × 3.5 in)
Compression : 9.3:1
Power : 129 hp (96.2 kW, 131 ps) @ 6600 rpm
Torque : 107 ft·lbf (14.8 kg/m, 145 Nm) @ 5200 rpm
Redline : 7200 rpm
Valvetrain : SOHC VTEC (4 valves per cylinder)
VTEC Switchover : 5000 rpm
Fuel Control : OBD-1 MPFI
Head Code : P08
ECU Code : P28

integragsi96
13-01-2011, 04:30 PM
oh and if your wondering about the b16a2
B16A2VTEC
Found in:


1992-2000 Honda Civic EDM VTi (EG6/EG9 & EK4)
1992-1997 Honda CR-X del Sol EDM VTi (EG)
1996-1997 Honda CR-X del Sol USDM "VTEC"
1999-2000 Honda Civic USDM Si (EM1)
1999-2000 Honda Civic CAN SiR (EM1)
Displacement: 1,595 cc (97.3 cu in)
Bore×Stroke: 81.0×77.4 mm (3.19×3.05 in)
Compression: 10.2:1
Power: 160 hp (119 kW) @ 7600 rpm & 111 lb·ft (150 N·m) @ 7000 rpm
Transmission: Y21 or S4C
Redline: 8200 rpm
Rev Limit: 8500 rpm
VTEC Engagement: 5,600 rpm
Aluminum Casting
ECU Code: JDM P30 (square case) or USDM P30 (regular case)

will13
14-01-2011, 12:49 PM
wiki isnt entirely accurate though

both eg5's (a8 and y1) have the same power output, 96kw at the fly

integragsi96
14-01-2011, 02:34 PM
i know its not completely accurate but it does give the OP a general idea of what he should expect

dougie_504
16-01-2011, 06:09 PM
As Will said D16A8 and D16Y1 are both 96kw.

I have a D16Y1 Civic and B16A CRX. B16A is a far superior engine and although people talk crap about the B16A's torque it's nowhere near as bad as the SOHC D!

B16A > D16A8 > D16Y1 I reckon.

will13
16-01-2011, 08:14 PM
I've never driven or experienced a D16A8 but i would imagine that is correct

2MPRS
16-01-2011, 08:21 PM
imo go d16a8 if ur just gonna do ihe ull get more power out of it

2MPRS
16-01-2011, 08:41 PM
gonna get mixed feelings about that one mate...basically the same power. btu the d16y1 has 9hp more at the fly and has the vtec crossover what people love but heres the specs:
D16A8Found in:
1988-1995 Civic/CRX/Concerto (UK/Europe/Australia)
1992-1995 Rover 216/416 GTi(UK/Europe)
1993-1997 Rover 216 SportCoupe (Europe)
Displacement : 1,590 cc (97 cu in)
Bore and Stroke : 75 × 90 mm (3.0 × 3.5 in)
Compression : 9.5:1
Power : 120 hp (90 kW, 127 ps) @ 6800 rpm
Torque : 108 ft·lbf (14.9 kg/m, 146 Nm) @ 5900 rpm
Valvetrain : DOHC (4 valves per cylinder)
Fuel Control : OBD-0 MPFI
ECU Code : PP5
Gearbox : L3


thats wrong d16a8 is not 0bd-0 if ur looking at wiki it has the same specs as the d16a9 but has a cat

markismaximus
16-01-2011, 08:51 PM
thats wrong d16a8 is not 0bd-0 if ur looking at wiki it has the same specs as the d16a9 but has a cat

the D16A8 found in gen 2 CRXs is OBD0

the D16A8 found in the EG si is OBD1

2MPRS
16-01-2011, 10:12 PM
thanks for clearing that up

meatball
16-01-2011, 11:08 PM
you'd hold a b16a2 in 2nd gear.. hit 3rd and it'll leave you.

SajadEG
16-01-2011, 11:44 PM
my old EG that had d16y4 with straight pipe>d16a8 with CAI and tip

krispykreme
19-01-2011, 08:05 AM
i havnt had d series, my honda has b16a2 mild mods, headers, exhaust, cai, ignition loeads ect...
and i seem to beat nearly everything p plate =] falcon, commos, nissans ect but i cant get integra type r's
=]=]

dougie_504
19-01-2011, 06:26 PM
Honestly nothing beats really shoving it up a stupid commo - especially when they have gay stickers on their car like 'You're never late in a 3.8' haha awwwww broooooo

Mikecivic78
19-01-2011, 06:33 PM
B16a2 wins hands down. You can't compare D series and B series. D16a8 makes 90kw while B16a2 makes roughly 30% more power (118kw)

Hard to believe that d16a8 could beat B16a, even if it was highly modded (non-turbo/supercharger that is). Honestly JDM-EGG, you make me laugh.

Also aftermarket support is much better for B16a.

meatball
19-01-2011, 06:41 PM
Honestly nothing beats really shoving it up a stupid commo - especially when they have gay stickers on their car like 'You're never late in a 3.8' haha awwwww broooooo

word.

EgFanatic
23-01-2011, 03:43 PM
i have a d16a8 with mild mods, stage 2 cams from usa, cai, 4 2 1 extractors, straight pipe system and the car pulled 87kws at the wheels on dyno on 3rd. gg brah " best thing is with stage 2 cams it constantly sounds like VTEC KICKED IN BROOOO!!!! " lol i love it <3

SuperJDM.
23-01-2011, 03:56 PM
i havnt had d series, my honda has b16a2 mild mods, headers, exhaust, cai, ignition loeads ect...
and i seem to beat nearly everything p plate =] falcon, commos, nissans ect but i cant get integra type r's
=]=]

bahahaha i get so happy when i hear this, cant stand P platers in their holdens with chopped springs and stockies rofl
The auto ones with the loud exhaust are the worse.

dougie_504
23-01-2011, 05:58 PM
Yeah man. Auto tranny, K&N filter, fat-ass zorst bro and some chromies to top it off. Oh, and a Momo steering wheel, like you'd actually want a small wheel for such a large car lol

JDM-EGG
23-01-2011, 07:38 PM
B16a2 wins hands down. You can't compare D series and B series. D16a8 makes 90kw while B16a2 makes roughly 30% more power (118kw)

Hard to believe that d16a8 could beat B16a, even if it was highly modded (non-turbo/supercharger that is). Honestly JDM-EGG, you make me laugh.

Also aftermarket support is much better for B16a.

haha u make me laugh , cause u obviously dont know shit, just because u got a b16a u think ur the BEST ? all comes down to driver and mods
even beaten my friends ek4 plenty of times, so experience and ur stoopid knowledge ? yea mate shut the fark up hahaha mr b16a boy

Mikecivic78
23-01-2011, 07:49 PM
haha u make me laugh , cause u obviously dont know shit, just because u got a b16a u think ur the BEST ? all comes down to driver and mods
even beaten my friends ek4 plenty of times, so experience and ur stoopid knowledge ? yea mate shut the fark up hahaha mr b16a boy
Silence. Your opinion is rubbish.

you've obviously only raced crap drivers with a b16a.

how many fwkw on your D16a8????

SajadEG
23-01-2011, 10:46 PM
Silence. Your opinion is rubbish.

you've obviously only raced crap drivers with a b16a.

how many fwkw on your D16a8????

d16a8 can keep up with a b with the right mods

b16a are great engines, but highly overrated
my mates nx sr20det with cold air intake and straightpipe can down a EM1 or EK4 anytime, and this car is worth a fraction of the price

dnt get ahead of urself

dougie_504
23-01-2011, 11:49 PM
d16a8 can keep up with a b with the right mods

b16a are great engines, but highly overrated
my mates nx sr20det with cold air intake and straightpipe can down a EM1 or EK4 anytime, and this car is worth a fraction of the price

dnt get ahead of urself


Admittedly it's a turbo, and the NX is nowhere near as nice on the eyes :)

Settle down on the whole D16 VS B16 guys. D16's are good engines IMO and hold their own until you hit about 3rd gear from experience, but the B16A is undoubtedly a superior engine. If you're going down the modification path and have money to splash I would always recommend the B, with respects paid to the D.

As Lan said not too long ago the DOHC D16 engine was the foundation of the B16A, so of course it's a solid little engine, but the B16A was a more powerful progression of that design and has a lot more potential.

GSi_PSi
23-01-2011, 11:59 PM
theres slow ones and some fast ones but can agree b16a has potential
d16a8 has potential in turboed form , n/a imo dont really bother
the nx coupes i used to take them with my gsi lol im not joking

SajadEG
24-01-2011, 12:54 AM
yeh nx's are fugly

the sr20's were great engines until they were introduced to the ethnic population of australia

lets hope they dont trek down the vtec path

TheSaint
24-01-2011, 01:30 PM
yeah the NX is a hard basket
got one of the worst safety ratings for a compact sport car you can get in australia
and there is NO ROOM in the engine bay - not even a 10yr old asian girl could work around the SR20DE
whole engine needs to come out for almost every mod

the NX has a bit of torque in low revs similar to a EJ20 n/a impreza - but thats where the fun stops
the handeling is ok ... but it has massive sway tendancy on the front end

i beat a NX with I/H/E in my EG8 all the time - i also beat a sohc 2.0 lancer
and they were good drivers too - shit cars but good drivers

im helping a mate build up a SR20DE for his NX ... and honestly - im about to chuck in the towel and just tell him to buy a different car

i would have to agree about the cammed D16a8 - they are pretty awsome
you stab it and its like instant vtec all the time hahaha
you only loose the low end drivability that the small vtec lobe gives - but who cares hahaha

Mikecivic78
24-01-2011, 09:28 PM
which is better, both dohc, both 1.6ltr. have watch on youtube lol as fair as i seen d16a8 appears to be fast? im not saying d16a8 is faster then b16 or the other way round. just wants to know the pros and cons.

Still little reply from you.

Why did you post OP?

glen06
26-01-2011, 08:48 PM
i got both engines. but ill go for b16 both stock/same mods.

90LAN
26-01-2011, 10:27 PM
da168 is over 25 year design and was good for its time

people forget b16a is over 20 years old now and was the best motor for its displacement at its time
and still is a good motor for what it is

jdm b16a had 170hp 125kw by the way

just have a look at the best honda ef/eg civic made and what motor does it have in it
that will answer your question

EgFanatic
29-01-2011, 11:51 PM
90lan, just ownd you guys LOL both last makes of the eg6 and the ef9 civic's came with b16a case closed?

michaelz
30-01-2011, 12:49 AM
B > D
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