New to hondas' all round. need guidance on a b16head + b20 bottom end conversion.

[jarrod strange]

I guess im new to hondas' and what not. coming out of a beemer affection, honda will have alot to live up too in terms of luxury etc. actually looking to sell it currently if anyones interested haha' 95' M3 replica. anywho,

looking to buy a 92' integra that comes with a b20 conversion already installed with skunk2 intake, custom manifold and hiflow cat etc, 18inch konigs, type R brakes, drilled + slotted rotors, coilover suspension.. and so on..

can someone guide me please on parts and time and labour needed (specifically any regular problems encountered on this endevour to i can tackle the problem when it arrises) on a B16A head with comp pistons,valves,springs etc. onto the B20 bottom end. also, Sourcing parts for this, eg golden eagle vtec conversion kit (read abit about it, dont compltetely understand it though, please speculate) Where do i get these from? and i need things like boot liner and wouldnt mind some blacked out headlights etc.

Please guide me!;)

[jarrod strange]

also, im located in newcastle NSW, so if anyones near by with information or can help with the build, let me know :D

[integragsi96]

if this is jarrod strange from newy...then i know you..


anywayz Welcome to Ozhonda!
you will find plenty of info on this site and dont forget that handy search button.
now for a good b20vtec conversion your looking at around 5-7k with tune.
theres a thread in the all motor section i think called the b20vtec disscussion thread.

[jarrod strange]

hey man, yeh its strangey ;) haha. nah man dropping a b16a head setup complete, onto a non vtec B20 bottom end. the guy im grabbn it off's mate has done it, so it is do-able."apparently"

[integragsi96]

i knew it!! lols
bout time you joined lols
it is but yehh it is an expensive process...its about the same amount as doing a b18cr conversion....dc2r integra type r engine.
but if its what you wanna do the page link is:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?125942-The-B20VTEC-discussion-thread

the person to ask is GSI_PSI
his got a b20vtec and making around 125atw kws on base tune i think...
he also has a very useful build thread...link:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?108234-Integra-B20VTEC-Build-up

but yehh thats should be all the info you need pretty much...i hope it helps mate

Sam

[jarrod strange]

thanks mate! ill have a look when i get home from work!

[integragsi96]

also theres a newy thread where all the newy member talk about their cars, organise upcoming events, kinda general chit chat...etc
good bunch
here's the link:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?127637-The-Newcastle-Ideas-Reflection-Thread-**READ-RULES!**

[Timmy_B]

it is but yehh it is an expensive process...its about the same amount as doing a b18cr conversion....dc2r integra type r engine.


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where did you get that from? any proof to back this up or you just pulling figures outta your arse Sam?

Question for OP: Why the B20? just want to know your reason for this conversion?

[ICYOIL]

off topic.. but keen for pics of the beemer to see if ive seen it around newy/maitland area

[will13]

+1 for pics

jarrod, if you head into newy on a thursday night and see a white EG or a white EP3, flag us down.

[integragsi96]

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lf5iuaEakR1qg5vhho1_400.gif

where did you get that from? any proof to back this up or you just pulling figures outta your arse Sam?

Question for OP: Why the B20? just want to know your reason for this conversion?

have you read the thread?
if your gonna build a decent b20vtec with all good parts and not cheap shit it can get towards 5-7k easy.
also including port and polishing, referb and shaving head, bottom end rebuild with good parts...
yes you can do it cheap for about 2-4k...

[Timmy_B]

sam, 5-7k is a good price for any build. Thats not over budget. But thats a fully worked b20. put the same money into a b18cr and see the results. Plus type r motors are still pricey, so you could be looking at 4k + just for motor.

[Vvvtec]

sam, 5-7k is a good price for any build. Thats not over budget. But thats a fully worked b20. put the same money into a b18cr and see the results. Plus type r motors are still pricey, so you could be looking at 4k + just for motor.

Ummm I'm pretty sure what he means is $5-7k for either a built B20v OR Stock B18cR/5/6/7. No need to build the B18c.

[jarrod strange]

Hey guys, i will mate, this thursdy where will yous all be at? ill be in my beem, ill chuck some pictures up later tonight for yas ;) shes for sale at 7500 at the moment, need the cash for this build :P guys offering GTS T for her though and some cash so i might be going that way!

[integragsi96]

yo strangey when i come down sometime this year...ill drive down and we'll go for a cruise or something?
knowing the newy police they'll love my car haha...
you should put your car up on boostcruising aswell...you might get some hits there
but other than that if you choose the honda you will not be dissapointed...well dissapointed till you hit vtec ;p

[jarrod strange]

b20 with b16 top because theres a b20 (non vtec - yes i agree i wouldnt have done a crv conversion < hahahaha) with type r brakes, slotted and drilled rotors, skunk2 intake, magnaflow and straight pipe / canon etc, type R pieces, coilovers, 18 inch wheels n shit for sale and i might scorch for 3 g. so yeh and sam yeh tru gimme a buzz when you are comen down

[integragsi96]

sounds good mate....with hondas 18's looks like 20's on commys lol
but being in newy be careful with the straight pipe...a little risky.
actually there's this for sale on here if your interested already had a b20vtec conversion done.
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?144697-EG-B20-Purple-goodies-(-price-drop-)

[jarrod strange]

looks nice but im never guna want a civic. idk the only hatchback car i would touch is either an RS focus or impreza or a VR6 Golf. if you know anyone with a teg or lude' out there makn some nice numbers and is keen on swaps ill consider it.

[jarrod strange]

PS. why cant i put a picture up or anything, it was letting me do it before X@ and i cant post anymore wtf. lol

[integragsi96]

look in the for sale section then mate....someone might be interested.
umm usually with pictures its best to use photo hosting sites like photobucket and etc lol...
aww the eg civic is standard under 1t...its very light but then again personal preference tho.
well if your after a lude only get the vti-r....integra stay away from the gsi (the model i have) as it has no vtec.

[ICYOIL]

jarrod, by any chance where you driving through lorn this arvo?
greenish beemer with green p plates? that your car?

[jarrod strange]

Hey mate, nah im situated just outside toronto, i pass through charlestown/newcastle/warners bay/edgeworth/wallsend or jesmond alot. havnt been through lorn in a LONG time :P played soccer there once :D if anyone knows anyone interested in a bemr (profile picture is my car now) please let me know, got my eye on a few things currently and need the dough :D

[jarrod strange]

and sam i know the gsi has no vtec, theres a gsi with everything you could think of on carsales atm for 3500, just needs an engine dropped into it as its got 300000 or some massive number on it, its in qld though :(

[integragsi96]

and sam i know the gsi has no vtec, theres a gsi with everything you could think of on carsales atm for 3500, just needs an engine dropped into it as its got 300000 or some massive number on it, its in qld though :(

yeh gsi's are a nice comfortable car.
great cruiser and all you need to make it competitive is an engine swap and some suspension mods.
my car is just shy of 300XXXkms and im having to replace bushes, cv boots, radiator hoses, lower engine mounts, and other things..but after all that its basically got a new life.

[will13]

my car is just shy of 300XXXkms and im having to replace bushes, cv boots, radiator hoses, lower engine mounts, and other things..but after all that its basically got a new life.

lol get a new car

[jarrod strange]

lol get a job n a life? get off my thread ya dickcheese'

[will13]

ease up mate

all im saying is that if all that work is required, with those amount of km's on the clock, its probably worth investing in a replacement car for lesser cost

[jarrod strange]

im probs guna go with a soobi legacy RS instead ;)

[jarrod strange]

if anyone knows anyone thats selling something as a prospect project car, let me know

[Timmy_B]

Girl from work, her bro is selling a EG civic for $5000ish or so.

[jarrod strange]

nah itd need to be lower then that. its guna be sitting in my garage for about 3 months while some sort of build takes place. lol i need something fairly cheap. if anyone knows of someone who has a dato 1600 good condition worth anywehre from 5500-7000 ill swap mine for it. has to be rust free atleast. im in the market for either old cars like datos or st162 celicas' (yes i know thats very controversial posting that on a honda site hahaha) or anything of interest like that ay. id have an EG civic or anything like that so long as its cheap and has low Ks (reasonably) and is a possible good buy. im happy to replace head-gaskets or repair body work aswell.

[integragsi96]

lol get a job n a life? get off my thread ya dickcheese'

to me? lols

and the legend rs is a nice car....
quad cam turbo i believe right?
or is that the liberty rs?


heres a potential project car for you
ok so its in qld but you can always trailer it or shipp it. i think depo to depo for my car was $400
i was considering buying this for the noosa historic classic car hillclimb in the invited group but when i had a job and now cannot get it...
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?123288-QLD-Brisbane-potential-street-\-track-car-(1991-Honda-Beat)&highlight=beat

[jarrod strange]

lol not at you sam, and *legacy's have a 2litre twin cam engine. the one im chasing has an sti turbo and sti bottom end. im more interested in a teeny bit more new. lol

[jarrod strange]

or a dato ;) :P

[integragsi96]

sounds pretty good
and dato's are hard to come by cheap if you know what i mean but there is a good dato 200b on boostcruising...pretty nice

[jarrod strange]

guys, just picked up a Vtir b18c2, thrashed beyond its poor life. vtec engages about 5900rpm, i want to reduce it to 5000rpm. need some more bang for me buck mods too eg skunk2 intake manifold, 74mm OBX throttle body...

[integragsi96]

bad man!!!!
finally you got one!
pics?
just remember the b18c2 intake manifold (IM) is upside down to the rest of the b series. it points down instead of up...pain in the arse tbh!
a buddyclub vtec controller can get you down to 5k rpm.....or look into a apexi afc neo vtec/air/fuel ratio controller.
good to hear you ended up going down the honda path instead of the toyota levin path

[Vvvtec]

guys, just picked up a Vtir b18c2, thrashed beyond its poor life. vtec engages about 5900rpm, i want to reduce it to 5000rpm. need some more bang for me buck mods too eg skunk2 intake manifold, 74mm OBX throttle body...

B18c2 VTEC crossover is actually 4400rpm. Your just hearing the secondary butterflies opening up at 6000.

Skunk2 manifold is a great mod, I've done it myself.

But 74mm throttle body?? That's way over the top mate. Stick to an oem DC2R 65mm tb. Don't go bigger than Skunk2's 68mm tb. It's way too overkill.

[jarrod strange]

only problem is the ****er didnt tell me it had been in a smash and seens i picked it up for 3800 instead of 5500 i thought i had done alright.

on that, should i get a new solenoid to get the vtec opening up abit louder? it seems to be reasonably soft as apposed to other vtecs ive driven (sam ive never been more cut i didnt get that black one i was lookin at for 8500, nothing compares to it that ive looked at or now bought lol)

[integragsi96]

too bad your sale fell through at the time....woulda been a clean example getting round newy!
you can hear the vtec crossover more once you have done I/E/H mate....
id be cut too if someone didnt tell me that

[Vvvtec]

Did you buy this engine for the sound of vtec?

[integragsi96]

Did you buy this engine for the sound of vtec?

performance he was telling me...
and he also likes the note of the vtec crossover

mind you he was also looking down the corolla levin bz-r track too

[Vvvtec]

Well I'm glad :)

Am I'm sure youve read a million times, B18's don't have a very loud crossover like a B16.

The quieter the crossover the better

[jeremydawg]

^yes!
so many people expect b16 like crossover with any vtec engine. Personally i think b18 crossover is just as good as a b16 crossover. with a b16 its loud and sounds great whereas a b18 is deep and sounds like a roar lol, i really cant get over both. id be happy with either one

[jarrod strange]

anyboy who knows someone interested in a vtir dc2 let me know.. W/ rwc

[integragsi96]

im not much help for you then mate lols.....everyone i know pretty much down south are honda haters and only like commonwhores and falcons

[jarrod strange]

**** commies seriously. last night i pulled away from a VZ S pack ute, alloytec 3.6L 179Kw at the fly, typically 145kw at the wheels. Honda FTW ;) and im not just talking in first gear, this was along 5 islands road from start to before i decided to give it a rest. they are weak :)

[Vvvtec]

Cool man... Don't die. And don't talk about street racing on here either.

[jarrod strange]

indeed a good point you have. wasnt a street race, just happend to be in a shitty mood. and old mate and his friend where busy wearing bandanas and bein super cool and well. nature took its course.

[integragsi96]

indeed a good point you have. wasnt a street race, just happend to be in a shitty mood. and old mate and his friend where busy wearing bandanas and bein super cool and well. nature took its course.

it happend on private roads all good ;p