13.8sec isnt that hard in ITR

[flyryd]

A few people have asked me to prove my 13.8 timeslip. so here it is.
i just want to prove that hitting 13's isnt that hard in a ITR with bolt-ons.
i havent touched my internals or head yet and there is still room for improvement with my setup.
i have a full mugen body kit on my car.. which doesnt help my 1/4mile, since it adds weight. :p

i heard Australia has drag strips that are A LOT better than in NZ.
believe it or not, our BEST drag strip is built on top of a swamp :thumbdwn:

also i am not into drag racing, so taking my R to the drags was a "spur of the moment" thing.



when the car ran 13.8@162km/h it had simple bolt ons:
Mugen intake.
Pro1 4-1 extractors.
test pipe.
Buddyclub spec2 exhaust system (i ran with a Silencer because officials said my car was too loud :( )
VAFC2- (but dyno-tuned to j's racing intake, kakimoto exhaust system. so needs to be re-dynoed to get maximum power :p )
aluminium crank pulley and spoon head gasket.
HKS hipermax II suspension.
15" TE-37 with michelin MXF street tyres. (just an average tyre, not cheap. not expensive.)




since then i have added a few more mods to the R:
Mugen muffler (so i wont need to run the silencer)
Spoon Throttle body


and in the future i will:
get better tyres
re-dyno tune my vafc2
add some aftermarket camshalfts(probably just stage 1 cams for ease of swap)


i most probably will head down the road of track racing, not drag racing.
anyone who has driven a ITR hard around corners know what i'm taking about :)



good luck to you all who are into drag racing :)

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNzUyMTQxNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNzUyMzE5NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

[supernatural]

nice itr...i want it...JDM... wahhh...i love it... :D

[faijai]

thats very nice!
likeing it heaps too!

[BF]

very very nice =)

[CJL]

dang thats gotta be the best dc2 ive seen on here yet.

Good time

[Civic Type R]

very good stuff.
Im running everything you are but in a Civic EK.
You have a lighter car and i can tell that by the variences of my times to yours.
I get the same 60' time but you get me by 0.4sec at the post.
Hence: ET: 14.281
mph: 96.35
kph: 155.06
60': 2.276

how cold was it down there ?

[BADHBT]

damn damn gotta fix my traction problem soon!!!!!
cant wait to get my car back on the track!

[bennjamin]

nice time...lack of catalyic convertor = how much more free hp ?!?



BTW....post up your time in our OFFICIAL 1/4 MILE DATABASE (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14188)

:)

[ginganggooly]

thats fkn awesome:thumbsup:

did you do that with a full interior? does it have aircon?
what was the ambient temp?

[flyryd]

very good stuff.
Im running everything you are but in a Civic EK.
You have a lighter car and i can tell that by the variences of my times to yours.
I get the same 60' time but you get me by 0.4sec at the post.
Hence: ET: 14.281
mph: 96.35
kph: 155.06
60': 2.276

how cold was it down there ?I've read that the trapspeed reflects how much power you have. but the km/h does vary a little depending how much wheel spin you get. i traped as high as 163km/h where as you have 155km/h. 1km/h is quite a big difference.
I've dynoed 135-140kw@ the wheels(depending on which dyno i go to), the result should have been a little higher because the VAFC2 was tuned to different bolt ons.





nice time...lack of catalyic convertor = how much more free hp ?!?



BTW....post up your time in our OFFICIAL 1/4 MILE DATABASE (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14188)

:)taking the catalyic converter probably gave me 2hp... which i would have lost by running a silencer in my muffler. LOL





thats fkn awesome:thumbsup:

did you do that with a full interior? does it have aircon?
what was the ambient temp?the car had almost full interior, minus the passenger and rear seat(est 20kg)
adding the mugen front, side and zeal rear bodykit, i wouldnt have been any lighter than a normal ITR :rolleyes:

the car has its aircon belt taken off, but on the dyno. to my suprise the before and after wasnt much difference.

temperature.. not too sure, it was done on a summer night in NZ.

[bluebird]

Or, buy a turbo car, fit an exhaust, raise the boost, and bingo! :)

hehe, just kidding. Good time man :!: :!:

[spoonfed]

nice work mate and i reckon your car is tops mate can't wait to see what you run next time

[flyryd]

thanks,
getting a better time on the strip is only a stone throw away (re-dyno the car and better tyres).
but ill be concentrating on track racing more now, more adrenalin rush :)




http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNzUzMTA1NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg


http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNzUzMTA2NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg


http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNzUzMTA3NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

[redliner]

mate that is one heck of a time, n it looks sweet :)
Welldone

[Psyklops]

nice one...keep us updated...actually curious as to what car was on the right?

[flyryd]

nice one...keep us updated...actually curious as to what car was on the right?
not sure... must be a 4wd or rwd.. from looking at the 60' time.

[bigteethygrin]

Ummm not to be a stick in the mud and just in case accusations do fly.. why is the plate and model so bold on a time slip that is so faded??

[Civic Type R]

he added it in so u knew which line was his - my guess

[Brescia]

Thats a nice time :thumbsup:
Are thier differences between his itr (96 spec) and our itr we get here in aus?

[type one]

i have been saying this for such a long time... sub 14's is doable and thx for proving this flyryd...

96 is a lil different to our ausdm, but in the end only a little more powerful.. the lightweight rims would have a LOT do with the launch as well... dun expect to be running sub 14's with a set of 16's or 17's... unless u got turbo :)

[ginganggooly]

what was the weather like on your run?

your terminal speed is pretty good, mine was only 151km/h.

but it's deffinately doable, if a vti-r with similar mods can pull a 14.5, i'd expect an R to drop into 13's...

[flyryd]

performance wise differences...
96spec has a little more top end, but it runs a 4.4 final drive.
ausdm has a 4.7final drive, which is better for acceleration.

i have a friend who owns a NZ-spec ITR(exactly the same as ausdm)
from memory, hes run a 14.1@161km/h .
he ran that time 2 weeks before mine, on street tyres with IHE.


the weather was good, but was starting to mist near the end of the night.
temperature wasnt too cold, but i had to drag the car against the wind

[demonic_sol]

hehe..u a legend on nzhonda fly...

any reason why u went for pro1's?....i got the same set up except i went for the TRR's 4-1..had them imported from Auckland....NZ has much better honda NA stuff than australia.(imo)..and Mark at Beyond is a champ :D . Great time slip

demonic_sol

[olda]

I've read that the trapspeed reflects how much power you have. but the km/h does vary a little depending how much wheel spin you get. i traped as high as 163km/h where as you have 155km/h. 1km/h is quite a big difference.
I've dynoed 135-140kw@ the wheels(depending on which dyno i go to), the result should have been a little higher because the VAFC2 was tuned to different bolt ons.




taking the catalyic converter probably gave me 2hp... which i would have lost by running a silencer in my muffler. LOL



the car had almost full interior, minus the passenger and rear seat(est 20kg)
adding the mugen front, side and zeal rear bodykit, i wouldnt have been any lighter than a normal ITR :rolleyes:

the car has its aircon belt taken off, but on the dyno. to my suprise the before and after wasnt much difference.

temperature.. not too sure, it was done on a summer night in NZ.Given the listed mods, 135-140kw atw IMO sounds a touch too optimistic.
However I believe a light DC2R with that output could run 13's. :cool:

[flyryd]

Given the listed mods, 135-140kw atw IMO sounds a touch too optimistic.
However I believe a light DC2R with that output could run 13's. :cool:

remember i am not in australia, im from NZ... ive heard you guys complain how low your dynos read etc...
then again... JDM has about 10extra hp to start off with.

our dynos read a little higher than yours, but still lower than USA dynos.
just to compare, most ITR's with IHE+vafc2 would get 125-133kw@wheels in nz.

here is one of my dynos
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNzU1MTgzNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

[2_and]

damn damn gotta fix my traction problem soon!!!!!
cant wait to get my car back on the track!
arent you selling your engine ??? :confused: :D

[Lonewolf]

dynapacks read a bit higher than our more common dynodynamics (as they use hubs from memory).
Adam: he didnt use R-comps for his runs, i'd add that to the equation to your time in the civic. Dont know how much of a gain they were anyways.

[EK9]

DUDE YOU'RE KILLING ME! :D

i've seen your car on one of dem nz honda sites... and i blardy luv it! JDM wif all the goodies... ;) one heck of a nice car, and one heck of a performer!

[Sp3rMz]

Lets all start moving to NZ. All the cars in the world at a cheap price.

[Javed]

Beautiful car mate. JDM ultimate respect, and props for wanting to get into track work :)

[Non Vtec]

I hate to be a stick in the mud about the dyno sheet.. BUT in the little box that says TCF beisde it the Number should be 1.00 not 1.15 Thats why you made almost 140wkw.. I know at the Auckland Final Autosalon show I made an extra 10wkw using the Gizzmo dyno.... But in saying that you would still be over 130wkw anyway..

We have alot of B18C powered cars over here running 120-160wkw most run between 12.8 and 14.0...

[16CTEG]

damn! from reading this i wish i still lived in NZ! i knew how cheap cars were there! but i wasn't old enuff to drive!!! and i never liked honda's then but i want a JDM baD!!!

[BADHBT]

arent you selling your engine ??? :confused: :D

yes i am! :thumbsup:

[tinkerbell]

for comparison, i did 13.73 @ 101mph in my B20VTEC LS integra

it had 122kW on a dyno dynamics dyno in Sydney...

but this was with a 2.06 60 ft time

[fabz]

Bit off topic but is it expensive to import a car from NZ?? :confused:

[CTR Coupe]

Bit off topic but is it expensive to import a car from NZ?? :confused:

its more expensive to ship from NZ(a route less traveled) than japan and the car costs more than in japan. unless you lived in NZ and owned the car for a year then shipped it back. thats the only way it would be cheeper. You avoid all the import duties and taxes you need to pay on it. Plus you can import anything you like, including cars that normally cant be imported.

[flyryd]

for comparison, i did 13.73 @ 101mph in my B20VTEC LS integra

it had 122kW on a dyno dynamics dyno in Sydney...

but this was with a 2.06 60 ft time


thats a wicked 60ft time, was that done on semi/slicks?
i wish i could get a 2.0 60ft time, any idea on how much the 1/4mile time will drop?

[tinkerbell]

BF Goodrich drag radials, my best was 1.999...

they say every 0.1 off the 60ft = 0.2 off the ET

[ginganggooly]

i had three runs, ranging from 2.12 to 2.16, my ET varied from 15.05 to 14.5... it was all because of my shifting i think.

[Jim80y]

i had three runs, ranging from 2.12 to 2.16, my ET varied from 15.05 to 14.5... it was all because of my shifting i think.

What was your launch technique for those runs? Nice 60 ft times :thumbsup:

[ginganggooly]

What was your launch technique for those runs? Nice 60 ft times :thumbsup:

cheers ;)

i'm not sure of the technique to be honest, so i'd be more inclined to put the 60' times down to luck and good track conditions... i basically gave it 6k rpm, slipped it a fraction and hoped for the best.

[tinkerbell]

that is a good launching technique ;)

it is the slight slip that is crucial...

and those are street tyre times :D

[Civic Type R]

Offtopic but how did 16CTEG go on the 14th January at the drags ?
Some pretty serious offerings were being made.

[tinkerbell]

that is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO off topic dude :shakehead:

[Civic Type R]

that is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO off topic dude :shakehead:
lol i know and i should be slapped :cool: :rolleyes:

[Clayts]

Offtopic but how did 16CTEG go on the 14th January at the drags ?
Some pretty serious offerings were being mad

Yeah... How did he go??? Has he still got the car??? LOL...

[Savant]

i was going to go down and see him but never made it, pub looked more inviting

[Civic Type R]

So [16CTEG] didnt show up ?
not even after all the hype and claims :cool:

[BADHBT]

sorry but yeahhh ............ im waitin on some parts LOL

[edw-R]

How many rpm are you guys usually start??

[CONAN]

mmmm.. nice carrrr
i like that bonnet, havent seen it b4

where did u get it from? brand?

[^^v]

nice time! n nice lookin car as well :thumbsup:

damn i wish i still lived in NZ... T_T

[STOCK]

Sweetride man! Good to see you post up that slip as i know there were so many doubters!!!!

[andreqo]

NIce TimE !!

[Macros]

FLYRYD managed a couple of 13.7's on friday night

[Integ LS]

16cdid not run havne heard or seen the car around since last time .... Who has taken ownership of the car ????

[itr025]

Sweet looking R and a sweet time! well done.

[X8TEENX]

omg man...you did well on vafc2...hav you change the ecu??or still using the stock 1..very curies about it