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sneakygreek
03-03-2011, 12:36 PM
Hey guys i have been chopping and changing over the last couple of months what car i want for my P's. Ive gone from EK vtie, DC2R, EM1's etc, until i looked on Carsales and around the place Yesterday, the DC5 Luxury/Special Edition caught my eye.

I can pick up a pretty good one for 10-12 grand. Main reason i want one is its got Leather seats(bucket like) and a Sunroof.

Does/has anybody owned or Driven one, what are they like? Even better if some1 here is selling one in Brisbane

r3ckless
04-03-2011, 07:58 AM
My gf has one, and i drive it. Hers is Auto though. I also have the Type S. So the difference between hers and mine is just the engine and transmission.

Hers has coilovers, and the car obviously handles quite well. Trust me you will fall in love with the seats and the sunroof is a nice add on. I'm kinda contradicting myself though, as when i first had the car, the best part of the car wwere the seat,s but now i've changed to Recaro SR4's.

for 10-12 grand, its a tough decision. I mean what do you want from the car.

You say you been looking at EK4/dc2r/ EM1. Their all got a beefy motor, where with the dc5 luxury, its more of a luxxury/sports car that really hasnt got much power (then again i drive my gf's auto one and obviously dont drive it hard). From this last statement, I dont think the DC5 luxury will be good for you. At the end of the day, your on your P's, your young, you wanna hoon. Get either an EK/EM1/DC2R. for 10-12k, get a decent dc2r for a few grnad more - at least you know u have good resale value on it.

45SET
04-03-2011, 02:49 PM
Doesn'tyour GF have a face lift Lux Alex? For 10-12k you'll only get a preface lift Lux.

sneakygreek
04-03-2011, 10:57 PM
I know i am on my P's soon, but i dont really care about power anymore, waiting till of my P's so i can get a Turbo, v8, etc. Ive moved onto a cruiser and more comfortable type of car now

DC5-4ME
05-03-2011, 10:30 PM
Doesn'tyour GF have a face lift Lux Alex? For 10-12k you'll only get a preface lift Lux.

Hey Robbi!

Yeah she does, i meant from my statement, if OP is going to spend 10-12K, the DC2R imo is the better option. power/looks/pedestal image/resale value.


I know i am on my P's soon, but i dont really care about power anymore, waiting till of my P's so i can get a Turbo, v8, etc. Ive moved onto a cruiser and more comfortable type of car now

If you want cruiser and comfortable, you may be on the right track; the DC5 luxury is in everyway a cruiser. if u got a mate in the passenger, you can cruise with one hand on the wheel and your other hand on their thigh. HAHA

On a serious note, if you do get a dc5 luxury, defiantely lose the stock wing and put an ITR/ITS wing on it. my gf's dc5 handles very well for what it is tbh, and its only dropped on Tein Basic coiklovers

gtotwinturbo
06-03-2011, 10:36 AM
Hey I have had my integra luxury for about 3 years now. I drive it heaps and like it a lot!
Ive driven a dc2 gsi, 1989 prelude with 4ws and chunky 06 accord.
All in all the teg luxury is good on petrol (bout 7.5/100l/km) mines manual.
Isn't the sportiest around but does handle fairly nice around surburban.
Despite being luxury it does not like most bumps and speed bumps are killer. (models 2004 and up fix this problem apparently)
Next to traditional sports cars the car stands pretty tall and looks van like sometimes.
Can look naked without a spoiler!

But really for 12k I dont think you can get an as reliable coupe that is as economical as the teg imo. :)

sneakygreek
06-03-2011, 01:25 PM
Thanks for ur replies, Yes i know they look quite van like so i would have to drop it alot, or just get a nice set of coilvers. I know im not look for a performance car, but does it go well enough, like u can feel the Vtec? i only Weigh 65 so take that into account aswell. Im just keen on the options such as leather seats, sunroof, just a nice car for coast cruising, etc. I heard their rear pillars cause a blind spot?

Zilli
06-03-2011, 01:59 PM
have you driven one yet?

gtotwinturbo
06-03-2011, 02:07 PM
They do look nice lowered!
the vtec system in the base dc5 is very different from the dc2 and dc5 type r and s.
i think i read somewhere it uses the same vtec used in the honda stream and accord models.
where there isnt a very aggresive preformance lobe and the standard lobe is tuned more for torque. it might just be me but i do feel at 5,500 the car pulls a little harder not that you get to do it often because in 2nd gear you hit close to 100 at 7000. but keep in mind its tuned for daily driving with max torque at 4000rpm which is quite low for a teg.
im not sure if this falls under a vtec system but the car operates with 12 valves and opens up to 16valves at 2,200rpm. and somewhere between mid 4,000rpm switches from a long runner intake to a short runner (this system is also present in other tegs including dc2 but the dc5 just uses a newer version) i weigh 72-74 ish and the car definetly feels like it goes, it has an amazing torque range very drivable and gear changes are fantastic i havent been this impressed since my ae82 corolla :)

about the blind spot i was completely like what the heck? when i first got the car but it isnt actually that bad it just takes getting used to. i noticed the dc2 to be similarly designed but in the dc5 the window sort of comes up higher. itd only really be a problem if youre going down a steep hill and a low sports car is there (never come across this just noticed it when coming off a freeway that if it were to happen itd be hard to see)

sneakygreek
06-03-2011, 03:06 PM
Im not sure what to get, i have 2 main options i need to decide on. 1999 Green Em1, Engine Fully stock, 87000 ks(driven like a grandma and babied) Only mods and 17 inch alloys, Lowering and Sound system, and diff front bar, everything else is stock. Had my mechanic put it up on on hoist and nothing is wrong. Guy will accept 8500 cash. The Integra Luxury im looking at is 2002 model Red. havnt gone to see it, 167700 k's, guy wants 11, but hes ot keen for my mechanic to look at it?

Help me make my mind up

gtotwinturbo
06-03-2011, 03:29 PM
hrm. doesnt want your mechanic to look at it? sounds suss.
ive never driven an em1 but it seems more revvy and less torquey in comparison to the k20a3. dont quote me on it but the b series engines seem more like preformers whereas kseries are torquey and more driver low rev friendly.
red tegs go pink if not garaged btw, so you might want to have a look at i first!
i think its a big factor that he wont let you have a mechanic look at it. :(

if the civic has really been babied vtec should be good in it :) thrashed the vtec system starts to go funny. some ppl say they get big kicks some say not much of a kick or they blow smoke when vtec engages etc.

sneakygreek
06-03-2011, 04:25 PM
My mechanic took it for a drive, oner said he hits vtec like less then once a week, Mechanic saw it blew abit of smoke but once i drive it and hit Vtec more it will wear in abit?

It also may be, with the Integra, he lives at the Gold Coast and i am in Brisbane, 1 hour drive basically, if he wants to sell the car tho ud think hed drive it upt for my mechanic to check. My mate said could get a RACQ inspection, but there there is a chance of them mis diagnosing problems which dont need to be fixed, etc

gtotwinturbo
06-03-2011, 04:48 PM
ive had my teg from 200,000ks and now its abt to hit 280,000ks and it's never blown smoke. while it could be anything from rich petrol, not letting the car warm up or even the oil being changed regularly its hard to identify the problem but i dont think its a wear in problem?

when was the last service and where was it done? i went to see an s2000 a few months ago and the guy let the car warm up for a while and when he drove off without engaging vtec it blew black smoke everywhere :( was not impressed the car had missed its major service and probably abused so be wary of inconsistency in the service manual.

i service mine every 10,000 or 6 months, would do it every 5,000 but it still runs so well :) doesnt burn oil or anything! i service mine at honda always...although that could be as stupid as it is pricey and i always feed the car 98octane. but hey no problems, no smoke, honda even fixed a few loose nuts i had when i got the car.

and yes inspections are more like look overs because theres only so much you can test without pulling things apart. find another teg to test and see if you like the drive :)

r3ckless
06-03-2011, 05:01 PM
I would honestly get the Em1, hwoever on a oney perspective.. the Em1 may be the cheaper option to begin with, but if the mod bug bites u, if u get bitten hard, the EM1 will cost u more in the long run... so many more parts for the Em1 as opposed to a dc5.

Vvvtec
06-03-2011, 09:49 PM
I would honestly get the Em1, hwoever on a oney perspective.. the Em1 may be the cheaper option to begin with, but if the mod bug bites u, if u get bitten hard, the EM1 will cost u more in the long run... so many more parts for the Em1 as opposed to a dc5.

I can vouch for this ^^

So much fun can be had with the B series, once you start... Well... ;)

What happened to the yellow dc2r you saw down the coast mate?

acurabot
06-03-2011, 10:27 PM
Firstly, what is your budget? Then you have to consider market price when you do sell it as well. The EM1 is cheap now but when you sell it, you wont lose much considering the tuning potential of these cars and number of buyers choosing EM1>DC5-lux.

I have a DC5R myself, one with sunroof too so I'm not against DC5's but the EM1 would be the better choice. Considering the price of DC5R's these days, when you sell your car the right minded buyer would save an extra 3k and buy the R imo. And because you only plan on having the car for 3years or so, i think the cheaper one is better as it gives you left over money to save for your turbo car.

But if you have alot of friends with vtec, beware you might regret not getting a vtec car :)

sneakygreek
07-03-2011, 09:51 AM
I can vouch for this ^^

So much fun can be had with the B series, once you start... Well... ;)

What happened to the yellow dc2r you saw down the coast mate?

That DC2R sold to a L plater who was going to buy my mates 95 GSI for $7000, instead he ended up getting a DC2R for 13 grand. Plus Type R insurance is expensive and my dad didnt like the idea, ill try to find a Gem of a Type R when my brother is 25 years old.

Im deciding today whether i want the Em1, which will be picked up and transfered to me tomorrow, or whether i will go to the coast and get a RACQ inspection on the Integra

gtotwinturbo
07-03-2011, 03:47 PM
sounds like em1 is the winner!
u seem pretty keen on the dc5 to go out of your way for it though!

:D let us know what ur getting!

sneakygreek
07-03-2011, 04:04 PM
Decision made, Picking up the Em1 tomorrow. All it needs is a new windscreen as the current one has a little chip and crack(my dad gets for cheap) New Left Bulb(just getting a pair of white Bulbs for now then Hid in the future)

I am still on my L's so car will be left stock for now, when i get my P's i will get CAI, Headers, Exhaust, Etc. I will create a Thread of it when its all home and stuff

Vvvtec
07-03-2011, 04:08 PM
EXCELLENT choice :D

Welcome to the B series family!

sneakygreek
07-03-2011, 04:42 PM
Im keen to get my CAI and Exhaust now....... but i dont want to put the Driving Tester off when i go for my P's, im meticulous about this stuff, i know people do tests in their R33 turbos, etc, but it can wait

Vvvtec
07-03-2011, 08:38 PM
I wouldn't worry about exhaust for now mate. The CAI will satisfy your ears, trust me ;)

sneakygreek
07-03-2011, 08:47 PM
Ill probably just whale penis it, gives a nice sound especially on vtec, im looking for more sounds then power