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Marz
08-12-2003, 04:53 PM
Just wanted to know if anyone knows of anyone who's done a RWD conversion to a Type-R?

I know they are the best handling FWD cars going around, but it has always got me wondering what a RWD Type-R would handle like.

What's the cost involved...

bennjamin
08-12-2003, 06:35 PM
just...dont...even...start thinking about it.

Tegs are FWD- entirely made to be FWD ( with the exception of a AWD variant in japan) - IM SURE yuo COUDL put in a big 9 inch diff in the rear , and link a drive shaft thru via a coupling system etc- but why ?

ANYTHING can be accomplished as long as u have plenty of money !

crx2gen
08-12-2003, 10:59 PM
Anything is possible. However, apart from the fact that you would own a RWD DC2 ITR, it'd more than likely be terrible. Its the same when people ask about AWD CRX's - Why? They're fun because they're light, weighing them down is just a pain in the ass.

Setanta
09-12-2003, 06:38 AM
Why the hell would you do that? Other than ruining the weight distribution etc thatt makes an ITR an awesome handler.

Stupid question really.

Civic Type R
09-12-2003, 11:29 AM
Isnt a RWD Type R integra badged as a S2000 ? :D

but anyway, i have seen a CRX with a C30A in the rear to make it a MR setup. Yes only in America and only at the NOPI Nats ;)

Marz
09-12-2003, 11:35 AM
Setanta - relax puto, it was just a question.

Setanta
11-12-2003, 05:24 PM
I was relaxed - you should see me when I'm uptight :P

Spunkymonkey
12-12-2003, 01:02 PM
I was relaxed - you should see me when I'm uptight :P

some of us have :twisted:

2ds
12-12-2003, 08:03 PM
on the subject has anyone done a fwd 200sx i'd like to see one of those too =D

-2ds

wynode
12-12-2003, 08:26 PM
YOu'd need a custom diff made up as the ITR has a transversally mounted engine. Not mention a slight loss in power through the tailshafts and new diff. North worth it IMHO. The ITR handles so well in its FWD configuration that little is to be gained by converting it to RWD.

As for the 200SX, similar story there (IE the engines mounted position).

vti-2
13-12-2003, 08:44 AM
It would be a waste of both time and money.

2ds
13-12-2003, 04:14 PM
YOu'd need a custom diff made up as the ITR has a transversally mounted engine. Not mention a slight loss in power through the tailshafts and new diff. North worth it IMHO. The ITR handles so well in its FWD configuration that little is to be gained by converting it to RWD.

As for the 200SX, similar story there (IE the engines mounted position).

I was joking =p

one more chance
14-12-2003, 05:23 PM
dont bother
its actually easier and cheaper to mount the engine at the rear if u want to convert to rwd!
just get a S2K if u want a rwd honda!

Rufes1
17-12-2003, 12:58 AM
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J/k :twisted: :twisted:

Civic Type R
17-12-2003, 12:48 PM
Guys, he was just asking a hypothetical question. The basis of it were not based on intention to convert one, but merely a thought from an experienced ITR driver to see how it would compare to stock FF.

Rufes1
18-12-2003, 12:08 AM
Haaaahahahhaa we're all just messin with ya

its too hard to imagine exactly what it would handle like because it would screw up all the weight distribution and turn it into a whole different car.

Due to the short wheelbase however, it would be fun to drive rwd.. shud be able to flick the back out pretty easily :D

pornstar
04-01-2004, 02:16 PM
i think its been said before but to convert the motor to a rwd, it would be easier to place the engine into an MR designation, not to mention cheaper. I tend to disagree about all the people saying h ow its not worth it etc. I think it would be good, especially if it were to see boost :)

Rowie
04-01-2004, 03:59 PM
next on the list .... a factory AWD ITR :twisted:

cant wait :dance:

Setanta
04-01-2004, 10:24 PM
Best I've seen is a 1 gen CRX with stock motor in the front and a supercharged v8 driving the rear wheels :P

Rowie
04-01-2004, 11:46 PM
Best I've seen is a 1 gen CRX with stock motor in the front and a supercharged v8 driving the rear wheels :Pnow that goto be one hot interior :twisted: :)

where did you see it?

bumthology
05-01-2004, 07:06 AM
i've seen a website from england that has an AWD 2nd gen,

Setanta
05-01-2004, 10:51 PM
Rowie:
http://www.mothers.com/coolcars/customer-coolcars/coolcars_cstmr_pics/Eddies84CRX.jpeg

Owner/Builder

Eddie of Rockville Center, NY

Curb Weight

3200 lbs (stock CRX is about 1800 lbs)

Powertrain

Front: Completely Stock and Functional Honda CRX 4-Cylinder Engine (front wheel drive)
Front Engine Drives Air Conditioning, Alternator and Water Pump
Rear: 468 cubic inch Oldsmobile V8, roller cam, 4-71 supercharger
Hilborn 4-port fuel injection
Separate Gas Pedals (one is a flip down)
Shifters for Each Engine

Fuel

Front Engine: Standard Gasoline
Rear Engine: Racing Gas (CAM2)
Three Fuel Tanks - Two for the Front Engine, a Single Five Gallon Tank for the Rear

Drivetrain

Front: Stock Honda Automatic Tansmission
Rear: Toronado Turbo 425 with 10" Racing Converter and 3.08 Gear Ratio

Cooling System

One Radiator in Front for Both Engines - Coolant Supplied via Common Piping System

Exhaust

Front: Stock Honda Single-pipe Exhaust
Rear: Zoomie Headers (Straight Pipes)

Suspension

Front: Stock Honda Front-End Suspension
Rear: Coil Over Independent
Tube Chassis Built from the Firewall back
Wheelie Bars

Tires

Rear: 15" Mickey Thompson Street Tires

Performance

No formal time tests have been made yet, but owner estimates 0-60 in about 2-2.5 seconds, 1/4 mile at 9.25 and 160 mph on about 1000 HP. It handles perfectly straight up to 130 mph - top speed so far. This car does NOT sit in the garage and look pretty. It drives around town and looks "surprisingly normal." That is, until the rear engine is fired up...

Rowie
05-01-2004, 10:56 PM
:shock:

nice :)

XXpl0Sive
05-01-2004, 11:11 PM
Any more information on the CRX?
CRAZY!

Choongas
06-01-2004, 05:26 PM
nuts...... :shock:

Civic Type R
07-01-2004, 12:33 PM
Ive seen the same thing but with a Chevvy 454 big block in the front engine bay :shock:

Setanta
08-01-2004, 12:23 AM
I've seen that one too CTR - but I don't think it was road registered and driven.

McChook
22-01-2004, 08:01 PM
just a dumb reply, But I know there used to be a RWD CRX in Sydney. It was black, very sleeper, which apparently had old Subaru 4WD mechanicals, but disconnected the front drive shafts.... Last I heard it died in QLD after taking out a cow...

snowman95
01-03-2004, 06:53 PM
In feb 2004 edition of Honda Tuning Mag, they're up to part 3 in an AWD integra with a type r motor.

http://www.pbase.com/cheebai/honda_tuning_feb_04

for your viewing pleasure[/img]

tofu R
01-03-2004, 08:43 PM
yeah there is a guy called blake that hands around the honda-tech forums with a project AWD itr
dunno if its the same one as aformentioned

bumthology
02-03-2004, 07:16 AM
theres an AWD integra..
http://www.pbase.com/cheebai/honda_tuning_feb_04

razztech
02-03-2004, 04:50 PM
:) hey guys. thats a great idea. i thought of doin that myself. its a loooong and pain staling process but if you've got the money anything is possible! as to weight distribution the integra is a great car 2 convert, it would proportion the car a lot betta, makin it more stable on the road. soon i'll have a customer who wants 2 put an SR20 DET rear wheel drive in a holden barena. once again if you've got the money & your mechanic is knoweledgable enough & willing 2 do the job its a good idea :P :P

civicboy
02-03-2004, 04:53 PM
razztech, can SR20DETT in a eg civic hatch? i heard u can w/ abit of modifications? or is it possible 2do?

Setanta
02-03-2004, 05:04 PM
If you can run a US street registered rear engine RWD V8 supercharged '84 Civic then anything is possible - with enough money.

Civic Type R
02-03-2004, 05:23 PM
The SR20 DETT is a long engine compared to the B series.
You're looking at serious cutting and welding.

civicboy
02-03-2004, 07:58 PM
The SR20 DETT is a long engine compared to the B series.
You're looking at serious cutting and welding.
hhhmmm damn...dat sux :|

razztech
03-03-2004, 07:44 AM
Whats the point of having a honda if you dont show it off !
your completly right but some people like to b diferant and make a statment if theirs no won like this our car shows would bee full of stock cars,

razztech
03-03-2004, 07:46 AM
Civic Type R wrote:
The SR20 DETT is a long engine compared to the B series.
You're looking at serious cutting and welding.
like i said its a long and pricy task but anything is posible :D :D

razztech
03-03-2004, 07:48 AM
by the way the names adrian razzi.... ;) ;)

fusion_VTi
03-03-2004, 09:45 PM
dorifto integra , i'd like 2 see that!

[[d a n n y]]
05-03-2004, 09:10 AM
hm...the awd civic wasnt there 1?

running the crx drivetrain ? or was it the HRV

anywayz

and it had turbo and was specially for draggggggsssssss

bumthology
05-03-2004, 08:38 PM
Theres an AWD CRX running CRV drive train.

Civic Type R
06-03-2004, 12:19 AM
in Japan land they have an EP 4WD civic.

bigpitty1
10-03-2004, 11:47 PM
If you want a AWD Integra DC2, you will need a early model CRV, you will have to modify the driveline abit and get the gearbox to fit.
If you have the engine which is the B series take the block, crank, conrods and pistons and fit the integras b series head on it.
this is like a stoker kit but the bore diamater and compression ratio will increase.

McChook
11-03-2004, 01:21 AM
Honda HRV works too, but weak as shizzle