k20/k24 Dc2r conversion

[CRXDEL501]

hey all,

did a search and couldnt find anything, and i always search before hand....

ive gone through a fair bit of mind changing of late...

selling dc2r, not selling, turbo, not turbo... but for some reason got it into my head i wanna do a k20/k24 conversion...

so was wondering, what id be looking at pricing wise...

taking out my b, selling the b, buying a k for how much $? install, and cost of whatever parts would be needed to do it..

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

hey all,

did a search and couldnt find anything, and i always search before hand....

ive gone through a fair bit of mind changing of late...

selling dc2r, not selling, turbo, not turbo... but for some reason got it into my head i wanna do a k20/k24 conversion...

so was wondering, what id be looking at pricing wise...

taking out my b, selling the b, buying a k for how much $? install, and cost of whatever parts would be needed to do it..

Bro, one thing about going Gay K is that you can't EVER go BACK!

(you have new mounts welded in and old ones cut out)

IMO go for the O.G dream, Turbo B

[V8KLLR]

Why not turbo k?
I was talking to a reputable mechanic in syd, he quoted labour to put a K series into a eg or ek was 5K just for labour. I'd imagine a dc2 would be the same. Samm928 had a beast k20/24 frank. Sold it to my friend and I took a ride in it, and DAMN the Vtec pulls like a turbo. Theres a k20a head on sale for like 900 on ozhonda, your gonna need to put all the working parts in though cause im sure its just the bare head. JDM yard sells K24a3 motors, your gonna need mounts, KPRO, gearbox, drivetrain n tranny need to be addressed but im not sure what

[chargeR]

Check out K20A.org, all the info you could ever need.

[CRXDEL501]

Bro, one thing about going Gay K is that you can't EVER go BACK!

(you have new mounts welded in and old ones cut out)

IMO go for the O.G dream, Turbo B


haha well, i had all the parts to do it...

wheelspinnnnnnnnn


ive wasted my morning on youtube watching yboost dc2... and wow. jizzed in my pants lol

[CRXDEL501]

Check out K20A.org, all the info you could ever need.

cheers dude.. ill check it out.

[CRXDEL501]

Why not turbo k?
I was talking to a reputable mechanic in syd, he quoted labour to put a K series into a eg or ek was 5K just for labour. I'd imagine a dc2 would be the same. Samm928 had a beast k20/24 frank. Sold it to my friend and I took a ride in it, and DAMN the Vtec pulls like a turbo. Theres a k20a head on sale for like 900 on ozhonda, your gonna need to put all the working parts in though cause im sure its just the bare head. JDM yard sells K24a3 motors, your gonna need mounts, KPRO, gearbox, drivetrain n tranny need to be addressed but im not sure what

oh true... yeah im sure i could find a mate that would do it for me...

id help out as best i could anyways.

just something i got on the cards i suppose. just not yet.. got no job soo im dreaming atm

[fatboyz39]

I have a k24 conversion up for grabs. Click on my sig.

[dougie_504]

If you're not doing labour I suggest putting aside a solid $10g + your old motor value, if not more.

[IEVAQ8]

haha well, i had all the parts to do it...

wheelspinnnnnnnnn


ive wasted my morning on youtube watching yboost dc2... and wow. jizzed in my pants lol

and u think a k24 with k20 head and 180ish kw wont wheelspin>>>>???

[CRXDEL501]

and u think a k24 with k20 head and 180ish kw wont wheelspin>>>>???

tommy...

lol.

i know it will haha, but still :(

i should have gone ahead with the turbo set up.

if i can sell the car i will, but if i cant, then ill do something drastic.

[GSi_PSi]

+turbo for the sound, lots of parts for the b incase anything goes wrong,
can remove the kit sell it and sell your car stock which will imo get more $$ for your car

[CRXDEL501]

+turbo for the sound, lots of parts for the b incase anything goes wrong,
can remove the kit sell it and sell your car stock which will imo get more $$ for your car

yeahh i was pretty much there with having all the parts for the turbo.. then decided not to do it and sold the parts.

[gen2 CRX]

be prepared to spend 10-15gz.

[Cartoon]

i think the most important factor is what do you want out of the car?

IMO lots of people go over the top with a kswap, mod the fk outta the motor and find its to much power, wheel spin every where and cant use it for much more than burnouts and shows

[GSi_PSi]

^ so true car need to be properly setup , in regards of taking the car to the drag strip- seen eg"s with k20 or k24 engines getting like mid 13's which imo is a big disappointment and waste of money . So if your going to go kseries be sure to setup the car properly like yonas or dr hondas eg running 11's or yboost k20 low 12 in dc2r like yours . Even practicing your driving skills etc . Imo if you can go turbo , do it spend the rest of the money you save by not doing a k on setup , tuning , reinforcement

[WATAJK]

i think the most important factor is what do you want out of the car?

IMO lots of people go over the top with a kswap, mod the fk outta the motor and find its to much power, wheel spin every where and cant use it for much more than burnouts and shows

^^ Cause people are retards thats why. Motor Enthusiasts forget some of the most basic and common things as time goes by i've noticed... Suspension & brakes.... Which is odd, so much extra power but they can't stop safely.... Makes me lol when i see them gun it in Melbourne but when they try stop they struggle lol.
Going over the top is fine dude provided you spend the equal amount of $$$ in the other necessary departments to make sure you MINIMISE wheel spin.

Why not instead of the common K20/24, why not K20 and stroke it...
You'll be surprised in the power that can be achieved but the cost will actually turn out to being more then doing the Hybrid...
Be different dude IMO.
Thats what ima do.

[GSi_PSi]

Waste of money and time, no offence. why would you do that when if you wanted the k24 to rev like a k20 whack a k20 head on it?.
A installing a stroker kit is not going to be cheaper than just buying a K24a block, you could probably build the k24 block with the money from the stroker kit.
If you wanted to be different get the K24 and stroke it to 2.6L. net around up to 200kw+

[eg5civic]

I've been looking at k for the egg poli, and crunched the numbers
Without paying labor to someone it can be done for 10-11k

If your getting someone to install it well, yeah expect to pay a fair bit. B series conversions are about 1500 in labor so I'd assume more for the k as you have welding to do and the exhaust has to be custom fabbed, have to cut into firewall for shifter cables or cut floorpan to mount marveled shifter ect.

Pm me if you want the list of bare minimum parts to get it in

[WATAJK]

Waste of money and time, no offence. why would you do that when if you wanted the k24 to rev like a k20 whack a k20 head on it?.
A installing a stroker kit is not going to be cheaper than just buying a K24a block, you could probably build the k24 block with the money from the stroker kit.
If you wanted to be different get the K24 and stroke it to 2.6L. net around up to 200kw+

U heard a K20A 2150CC before ?? It's a motor to be heard. I did say that it wouldn't be cheaper than the K20/K24 hybrid, if you build the K20A properly you can net 190++ Atw, if built correctly of course.
Thats the route i've chosen to go.
K24/K26 is a monster of a thing if you want purely n/a, generally most people who put these motors in the car is for drag racing. (Im sure you know this though, seen your build thread and i know you have a shit load of knowledge behind you :thumbsup:)

Just giving my 2 cents thats all dude. This isn't about me though, just giving an idea thats all.

[hiepy]

if ya have a dc2r, why don't u just turbo or b20 the thing.
Whatever extra $ left over, spend on sussy.

With 10k you could build a HECTIC bseries b20 or put together a krazy turbo kit.
I'd only ever go K if you want reliability and unopen motor swap etc.

Plus you get better handling with a B.
Kseries ain't so fast, sure it's a superior motor, but b16 turbos have been hitting 10s and been doing so for years.
Who gives a fck if it's NA or force induction when it comes to drag racing. It's whoever wins/fastest time.
HAHA

[eg5civic]

Waste of money and time, no offence. why would you do that when if you wanted the k24 to rev like a k20 whack a k20 head on it?.
A installing a stroker kit is not going to be cheaper than just buying a K24a block, you could probably build the k24 block with the money from the stroker kit.
If you wanted to be different get the K24 and stroke it to 2.6L. net around up to 200kw+

Putting. K20 head on a k24 isn't going to mean it'll rev like a stroked k20.
If you want revs and peak hp go k20 if you want more torque and lower redline k24
End of the day you'll never rev a k24 as high as a k20 can due to the bigger bore and te forces that are put on the motor

[GSi_PSi]

Fair enough watajk , I see your
Point. A situation I would do the stroked k20 if I had a the factory car to go with it just so everything is still original and more for the sleeper/wank factor when people see the block thinking its just a k20, but put it this way a k24 can be picked up for as little as $800 he doesn't have the k20 already so he will have to purchase that for (prices vary I've seen some 2-7k) . But let me tell you revving the **** out of a motor to 9000rpm isn't always going to compete with a bigger displacement motor that can rev to 7,800 etc because the power/torque comes earlier the car will be pulling away. Plus added the fact that you have stoked the motor will make it less reliable than a factory bore and stroke k24. You can build a k24 to rev as high as a k20 it's been done time and time again, go ask dr Honda/Charlie at gpc/byp/chris protune

[eg5civic]

So they changed the laws of physics?

[Cartoon]

what you need to do is sit down and this about what your building the car for, thats the only way you will ever decide on what motor set up to run along with the correct mods to sussy and brakes.

Im actualy building a k24 dc2 now but the motor will have very very very limited mods, im after a set up that will start every day all day with no problem and can handel track work so going all out on a b series and having to check the clearence every 12 months because it was close to a race set up. Turbo FF is not my ideal set up for a track car.

Expect to spend a good 10k + on brakes and suspension for the right track or drag set up, if its pure street i guess between 5-10k depending on how far you want to go.

You honestly need to sit down, work out why you are building this car and list everything you need for that build (not in detail) and estimate pricing. other wise you will never know and the talk about what motor set up will do on forever.

[damienm]

why is a turbo FF not your ideal setup for a track?
fastest fwd in USA and JAP are both turbos..
world racing scion and the 5zigen civic

[Vvvtec]

So they changed the laws of physics?

??

Are you talking about a K20/24 hybrid revving to 9000+ rpm like a regular K20a? Becuase yes, it has been done...

[GSi_PSi]

So they changed the laws of physics?


lol you noob, when did i say they changed the laws of physics >?
i merely said most can/have built motors that can rev as high as a K20.
if having stroked K20 can enable you to rev so high why has mugen power japan made the RR concept engine
2,157cc redline to 8400rpm>? why because theyve learnt revving **** out of a
motor doesnt nessesarily always make more power, have power/torque earlier is what
counts.
If you rev heads love revving so much,, go put in a motorcyle engine and rev that out
to 20,000rpm but watch as a carby eg comes flying past you lmao
I guess people never learn until they experience both powerplants.
torque matters!

[Tom eg5]

Ive learned to never try and stick to a budget or a time frame...

[eg5civic]

??

Are you talking about a K20/24 hybrid revving to 9000+ rpm like a regular K20a? Becuase yes, it has been done...

Yeah it's been done, congrats, point is it won't lay as long due to the pressures your creating inside the motor. Think about the size difference in bores, then think about piston size, bigger piston, more weight. As motor speed increases so does the force being put on the rods as that weight hits the end of it's stroke especially on extend stroke.

Gsi, Your calling me a noob but I'm on the same wavelength as you? I'm saying you have a smaller capacity with higher redline relying more so on revving and peak hp to move the car or you have more torque and a larger capacity.

You can make larger displacement motors rev as high as smaller displacement ones but at what cost? Custom pistons that are lightened further? Engine life?

End of the day it comes down to how deep your pockets are.

[dougie_504]

Ive learned to never try and stick to a budget or a time frame...


Haha. My opinion is that you should just multiply them by 1.5 at least! Always be on the safe side I guess, especially if you haven't done something before.

My friend took 3 days to do his driveshafts for the first time, and has done it 3 times now. So when he helped me do mine it took like 2 hours :D




End of the day it comes down to how deep your pockets are.


Right on. So you get the occasional magician who can almost turn crap to gold, but most of us are regular blokes lol

[fatboyz39]

Rev a built k24 to 9000rpm often and it'll break eventually. Drag racing yeah it'll last one full season but they see's what 10-11sec of abuse at a time. Typically it'll be pulled down to check bearings and clearances and most likely get freshen up after a season of racing (drag).

Built k24 safely capped the rev's too 8500-8600rpm then gear it properly to its power band. * very important*


Stock k24 bottom end been proven to last both force induction and n/a. Of course you'll need to change the oil pump to k20a and sump to rev it pass 8000rpm safely.

Spending 10k on a b20 wont be as fast or reliable as k24 with simple bolt-ons. Its a fact and been done and tested. Now spending 10k on a turbo kit on a stock b18c7, that will give the k24 a good run.

[fatboyz39]

why is a turbo FF not your ideal setup for a track?
fastest fwd in USA and JAP are both turbos..
world racing scion and the 5zigen civic

Same in AUS too :P

[Cartoon]

why is a turbo FF not your ideal setup for a track?
fastest fwd in USA and JAP are both turbos..
world racing scion and the 5zigen civic

Because they are race cars :). My car is daily driven with 6-7 track meets a year and for me running a near stock k24 with good gearing is a better option as I dont have to worrie about her braking as much. like i said before it all comes down to what exactly your building the car for.

[eg5civic]

why is a turbo FF not your ideal setup for a track?
fastest fwd in USA and JAP are both turbos..
world racing scion and the 5zigen civic

5zigen civic is fast but the ss works crx is definitely up there as one of the quickest track hondas, I think it's best lap was a 59.1 or something and the 5zigen is 58.2

The other thing with turbo fwd is setting them up, it's alot harder to get power to the ground while maintaining grip.

[fatboyz39]

Because they are race cars :). My car is daily driven with 6-7 track meets a year and for me running a near stock k24 with good gearing is a better option as I dont have to worrie about her braking as much. like i said before it all comes down to what exactly your building the car for.

True depends on the end goal. For streets ill leave the k24 near stock and slap a supercharger kit (rotrex prefered) on it (im bias). Zero lag, instant/linear power. In fact you cant even tell if its supercharge.

[eg5civic]

In fact you cant even tell if its supercharge.

Apart from the fact you'd probably bake 4th an 5th on street tyres XD
But what you just suggested for street is ultimately what i want, would be a weapon for the streets