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THE_MASS
27-01-2005, 09:26 PM
hey guys,
i was just wondering when does Vtec engage in a Integra DC2?
As my car makes a clicking noise at 4 1/2 g's????
i know this may sound unusual but many people that have been in my car hear the same noise.... Vtec then opens at 6g's??
Does any have a clue why this occurs??? your comments would be appreciated.
By the way.. i dont have a Vtec controller either. :confused:
ECU-MAN
27-01-2005, 09:30 PM
vtec should cut in around 5200 - 5500, with our hearing the noise its really hard to say what it could be.
Savant
27-01-2005, 09:34 PM
vtec should cut in around 5200 - 5500, with our hearing the noise its really hard to say what it could be.
i think b16a cuts in at 5600?
However dc2 has some sort of 'pre-vtec' thing at about 4500rpm and then vtec at about 6000.
mine does the same. Put a pod filter on and you will really hear it!
g3vtir
27-01-2005, 09:36 PM
Vtec kicks in at 4,400 rpm....then at 6,000 rpm the secondary intake runners open up.
wynode
27-01-2005, 11:15 PM
Vtec kicks in at 4,400 rpm....then at 6,000 rpm the secondary intake runners open up.
Errr no.......the secondary intake runners open up first.......and after that VTEC cuts in.
Intake runners open up at around 4,500rpm and VTEC engages at around 5,000rpm+
supernatural
27-01-2005, 11:26 PM
oh.... :|
so...wat about DC2R??? same procedure?? or??
wynode
27-01-2005, 11:30 PM
dc2R doesn't have have secondary intake runners.
g3vtir
28-01-2005, 07:40 AM
Wynode,
Not sure about that...i'm not saying that im right, but from what i have read its vtec first then intake runners.
Stage 1 (0-4400 RPM): Low-lift cam lobe and long intake runners.
Stage 2 (4400-5800 RPM): High-lift cam lobe and long intake runners.
Stage 3 (5800+ RPM): High-lift cam lobe and short intake runners.
"Most people confuse the opening of the short intake runners as VTEC engagement because of the dramatic change in sound. It is hard to hear VTEC at 4400 RPM using the dual-stage intake manifold because the long runners restrict flow volume to the engine in order to maintain flow velocity."
"VTEC engagement is 4400 rpm, the secondaries open up at 5800 rpm"
www.team-integra.net (http://www.team-integra.net)
snowman95
28-01-2005, 11:06 AM
Wynode,
Not sure about that...i'm not saying that im right, but from what i have read its vtec first then intake runners.
Stage 1 (0-4400 RPM): Low-lift cam lobe and long intake runners.
Stage 2 (4400-5800 RPM): High-lift cam lobe and long intake runners.
Stage 3 (5800+ RPM): High-lift cam lobe and short intake runners.
"Most people confuse the opening of the short intake runners as VTEC engagement because of the dramatic change in sound. It is hard to hear VTEC at 4400 RPM using the dual-stage intake manifold because the long runners restrict flow volume to the engine in order to maintain flow velocity."
"VTEC engagement is 4400 rpm, the secondaries open up at 5800 rpm"
www.team-integra.net (http://www.team-integra.net)
ding ding ding - Winner :thumbsup:
pornstar
28-01-2005, 11:17 AM
yup sure is :)
B18C7 VTEC engagement at 5700 rpm
flyryd
28-01-2005, 01:01 PM
Wynode,
Not sure about that...i'm not saying that im right, but from what i have read its vtec first then intake runners.
Stage 1 (0-4400 RPM): Low-lift cam lobe and long intake runners.
Stage 2 (4400-5800 RPM): High-lift cam lobe and long intake runners.
Stage 3 (5800+ RPM): High-lift cam lobe and short intake runners.
"Most people confuse the opening of the short intake runners as VTEC engagement because of the dramatic change in sound. It is hard to hear VTEC at 4400 RPM using the dual-stage intake manifold because the long runners restrict flow volume to the engine in order to maintain flow velocity."
"VTEC engagement is 4400 rpm, the secondaries open up at 5800 rpm"
www.team-integra.net (http://www.team-integra.net)
thats right :thumbsup:
wynode
28-01-2005, 01:08 PM
Looks like i've been owned!
I'm still wondering though why VTEC engages sooo early though??
Integra
28-01-2005, 01:48 PM
I think its the VTEC engaging.. i rekon its the pod filter too, ive got a twin 2-1 pod filter and it makes a loud noise @ 3000rom 3500prm, could be a little vtec kick in.
viperx
28-01-2005, 05:22 PM
It is the vtec first
http://www.honda.co.jp/factbook/auto/INTEGRA/19930520/image3/008-001.jpg
Wynode,
Not sure about that...i'm not saying that im right, but from what i have read its vtec first then intake runners.
Stage 1 (0-4400 RPM): Low-lift cam lobe and long intake runners.
Stage 2 (4400-5800 RPM): High-lift cam lobe and long intake runners.
Stage 3 (5800+ RPM): High-lift cam lobe and short intake runners.
"Most people confuse the opening of the short intake runners as VTEC engagement because of the dramatic change in sound. It is hard to hear VTEC at 4400 RPM using the dual-stage intake manifold because the long runners restrict flow volume to the engine in order to maintain flow velocity."
"VTEC engagement is 4400 rpm, the secondaries open up at 5800 rpm"
www.team-integra.net (http://www.team-integra.net/)
EG_2_TEG
29-01-2005, 12:23 AM
shortintakerunners4life
they're the fukers that make it sound good :)
if only i had them :(
THE_MASS
31-01-2005, 04:45 PM
thanks for the advice... i thought i was going crazy..... :0
XPLOSV
01-02-2005, 09:24 AM
is it wise to buy a vtec controller?
since it kick in a lil late?
industrie
01-02-2005, 10:17 AM
nothing beats a H22a engine going..bahhhh...mine kicks in 5500 in a prelude VTIR
spetz
01-02-2005, 10:30 AM
So the kick that VTEC gives isn't in fact from the cam's switching over, but the intake runners going from long to short?
Is this the same with all variable valve timing/lift cars like MIVEC and VVTi-L?
Spoon-Accord
01-02-2005, 10:30 AM
ahahaha H22a at 5.5k??
mine kicks at 5k.. u can hear it expecially in the exhaust note..*guys who heard my car, correct me if i am wrong :P*
does that make the B18c a diffrent engine compared to others.. with this intake runners and etc..?
Ken
spetz
01-02-2005, 11:06 AM
When I drove VTEC prelude kick in was at 5500rpm...
Same with B16C VTEC
With my teggie.......first i hear my AEM V2 make this crazy gushing noise at about 5000 then at 5800 my Apexi GT Spec takes over and i cant hear nothing else after that......
Love driving through tunnels and dropping down to second to really enjoy it....
Spoon-Accord
03-02-2005, 06:57 AM
With my teggie.......first i hear my AEM V2 make this crazy gushing noise at about 5000 then at 5800 my Apexi GT Spec takes over and i cant hear nothing else after that......
Love driving through tunnels and dropping down to second to really enjoy it....
i feel the same way too bro..
in tunnels just dropping in high gears and making the exhaust sounds..
omg.. i have to put my windows up cause it gets too barky
lolz
Ken
h22a accord
03-02-2005, 07:17 AM
i must be reading wrong but dont the intake runners open at around 4000rpm then vtec engage at 5300rpm...thats what mine does.
Spoon-Accord
03-02-2005, 07:32 AM
ding ding.. :D
ken
g3vtir
03-02-2005, 07:36 AM
h22a-accord...nope..its vtec first then intake runners...
wynode
03-02-2005, 10:19 PM
i must be reading wrong but dont the intake runners open at around 4000rpm then vtec engage at 5300rpm...thats what mine does.
Yeah that's what I used to think :(
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