So how much oil do DC2's generally use?

[Gussy1]

Hey guys,

After currently selling my current car, I'm in the market for a new car. I've had a few Hondas in the past and a DC2 Type R is probably going to be my next car.

Just so I can gauge how much oil these use - what's fairly typical?

I've met quite a few people in the past with good examples who swore that their Type R didn't burn a drop of oil and the usual people who say "high revving engine, supposed to burn oil, blah blah"

I had a digital oil temp gauge in a car last year and it actually takes around 13 mins for oil to come up to 95 degrees - coolant coming up to normal temp takes 3 mins, so maybe some people think when the engine temp is at "normal" it's ok to rev the ass off it.... Perhaps that's why some Hondas burn quite a bit of oil and some owners say they don't burn any?

Anyway - what's typical oil consumption for these?

Thanks in advance guys.

Gus

[Bludger]

You are asking a question that has very many variables.

If you are asking for people's opinion then you will get all sorts of answers like what you already have said.

Typical? high RPM = burn more oil.

[DC2-PWR]

All depends how you drive it.

what type of oil you use, velocity/weight.

[EVLGTR]

All depends how you drive it.

what type of oil you use, velocity/weight.

Viscosity/Weight :)

[anzai]

the age of the motor also factors in to whether you will burn a lot of oil. i was using 5w30 for my dc2r (150000kms motor) and it was burning quite a bit of oil. after speaking to a few people it turns out that rating was to thin for my motor. as the motor ages the gaskets, piston rings and sealing components in the motor will wear out so the thinner the oil rating the more easier for it to find its way into the cylinder, hence you 'burn oil' as the same time.

im using 10w40 full synthetic at the moment and the oil level is still the same after about 2000kms of driving - oh and with occasional vtecs too

[DC2-PWR]

Viscosity/Weight :)

Cheers champ

[krogoth]

im using perite 10w-40 full synth, car gets thrashed the fk out of all the time, burns about 3L every 10,000kms

never any white smoke, no power loss, car is mechanically great, but it chews through the oil

used to use a 5w-30 shell full synth, used to chew through up to 6L every 10,000km

[Lukey]

if a car doesnt burn any oil at all theres something wrong

[Bludger]

if a car doesnt burn any oil at all theres something wrongtotally false.

neg rep for tslking BS

[Lukey]

cars are designed to use a bit of oil.

[GSi_PSi]

Cars especially high revving hondas are going to burn oil if your going to be driving them high in the rev range most of the time , why do you think there are little top up bottles like castrol edge etc turbo cars blow lot of smoke on boost but that's mainly an indiciation of the turbo is about to go 90% of the time but seen some crazy Japanese tuning company built 700hp gtr's blowing shit load of smoke on a top speed run. I think might of been jun or mine s ?

[Bludger]

cars are designed to use a bit of oil.You make it sound like automotive designers set out to design engines to burn oil.

Oil burning is a by-product of higher performance and less tighter tolerances to achieve this.

Designers don't set out to design a motor to burn oil.

[vtecing]

my dc2r uses **** all oil. Never had to top it up. It had 100,000kms on the motor and I have been using genuine OEM Honda oil and just recently changed to genuine OEM Honda fully synthetic and still doesnt use any oil.

In the past I have noticed my turbo charged cars use more oil than NA and also fully synthetic seems to burn quicker

[krogoth]

OMG DC2R burning oil is some FKN SIRIUZ BIZNEZZ BRAH

[sneakygreek]

What happens if u hardly ever change Oil? like my Mums Volks Polo hasnt been changed for atleast 40,000ks and still runs quite good?

[DC2-PWR]

What happens if u hardly ever change Oil? like my Mums Volks Polo hasnt been changed for atleast 40,000ks and still runs quite good?

Wow must be a damn good car aye, don't change it see how long it lasts :D........

wtfs wrong with people?
heres a pic :)
http://b16a2.kicks-ass.net/temp/F22A9-Sludge-1.jpg
http://b16a2.kicks-ass.net/temp/F22A9-Sludge-2.jpg

[Bludger]

What happens if u hardly ever change Oil? like my Mums Volks Polo hasnt been changed for atleast 40,000ks and still runs quite good?
reported to www.theecpa.com.au

[Cr0wbar]

I checked the owner's manual to my VTi-R and it says 3.8L of fuel for a non-VTEC and 4.0L for a VTEC. I don't suppose the Type-R would be much different. I've just filled mine up with 10w-40 and I'll probably just change it in another 10,000 KM's.

[Gussy1]

my dc2r uses **** all oil. Never had to top it up. It had 100,000kms on the motor and I have been using genuine OEM Honda oil and just recently changed to genuine OEM Honda fully synthetic and still doesnt use any oil.

In the past I have noticed my turbo charged cars use more oil than NA and also fully synthetic seems to burn quicker

See, this is what I'm talking about. It's stuff like this that makes me think that Type R's aren't supposed to burn oil but the guys who's engines burn oil will always tell you "they're supposed to do that."
I've met a few Type R owners in the past who have also said that they don't burn any oil.

To be honest, I've never been the one to succumb to the idea that just because a call revs high that it HAS to burn oil. I've had a fair few other high revving cars in the past that haven't burned any oil, which was a testimony to how good and tight the engine was.

So I'm guessing the majority of owners actually do burn oil, but from reading Vtecing's post, they're not really supposed to. Cheers mate.

[Lukey]

we had a commodore come into work and it hadnt had the oil changed it abnout 70,000kms and it was really thick and goopy and the cartridge oil filter was completely blocked.

[krogoth]

70,000kms lol

[DC2-PWR]

we had a commodore come into work and it hadnt had the oil changed it abnout 70,000kms and it was really thick and goopy and the cartridge oil filter was completely blocked.

Did you guys clean the internals? how?

[vtecing]

Run deisle through it

[GSi_PSi]

Between services with me, if i have driven the car hard- vtec often, taken to wsid etc , when checking the oil it will have probably lost only about 1mm on the dipstick
if i have driven it casually, not vtecing most of the time, the car will have not lost any oil.
Its all to do with your driving really and your oil type , its basic principle, when the engine gets loaded up more the hotter engine will get and will need to use the lubrication the oil gives it

[Lukey]

Did you guys clean the internals? how?

nope. we wouldve just recommended it

[Super-DA9]

I just had my valve seals replaced and my VTi-R still tends to use a little bit over a couple of weeks if driven spiritedly, but not as much as before. Rings are fine and PCV valve is new so I guess for some B-series it's just normal to use some, where as some might not but every engine is different.

[krogoth]

its all about tolerances, honda quality control is renowned for being world class, but still, a few microns off here and there in the engine manufacturing process could make a difference in the long run in terms of oil consumption

[androo]

My old VTi-R (150,000km) used no oil running Edge. Burnt a bit using magnatec so changed to edge and it never burnt.

Been using the same oil on my GSi (130,000km) and my LS (210,000), also no burn whatsoever.

I'm not sure about your cars guys but mine were just serviced on time and oil changed around 7-8000km. The cars never really get thrashed though.

[Super-DA9]

My old VTi-R (150,000km) used no oil running Edge. Burnt a bit using magnatec so changed to edge and it never burnt.

Been using the same oil on my GSi (130,000km) and my LS (210,000), also no burn whatsoever.

I'm not sure about your cars guys but mine were just serviced on time and oil changed around 7-8000km. The cars never really get thrashed though.

Which EDGE were you using?

[androo]

Which EDGE were you using?
Just Edge 5W-30. Nothing special. Strangely enough, in my VTi-R the oil always comes out light brown. The Gsi and LS both come out much darker. I have no idea why. None of which burn oil though. Any thoughts?

[Super-DA9]

well I'm using nulon 10w-40 SM fully synthetic, and even though when I got the valve seals replaced I revved it up quite a bit then checked the oil the next day and it hadn't burnt any oil, it seems to be dropping very slowly over a week or two even if i don't rev past 4500RPM between checks... maybe it's leaking from somewhere, I know I have a little bit of a leak from my sump but it's minor and doesn't drip off it or anything, just gets oily around the gasket. dunno if that would be enough, i can't see any leaks anywhere else..

now I'm stuck lol :S

[mugen_ctr]

Cars especially high revving hondas are going to burn oil if your going to be driving them high in the rev range most of the time , why do you think there are little top up bottles like castrol edge etc turbo cars blow lot of smoke on boost but that's mainly an indiciation of the turbo is about to go 90% of the time but seen some crazy Japanese tuning company built 700hp gtr's blowing shit load of smoke on a top speed run. I think might of been jun or mine s ?

those high powered cars with massive blow by smoke are all to do with tune not oil or turbo... miss information on turbos, what is with honda ppl an turbos lol.. jks jks...black blow by smoke on any car is indication of rich level of tune, nothing to do with the turbo... white smoke is indication of trouble, turbo problems or engine :)

And turbo cars using more oil? nah its more so to do with how the engine is treated, any car can use X amount of oil, too many variables to single out forced induction vehicles

[vtecing]

Oil turning dark can be a product of a few things. Keep in mind that when you drain the oil, not all your oil seeps out of the motor (which is a good thing because u need the motor lubricated when u crank it over) so some old oil can remain behind. Also make sure u replace ur filter when u do the oil. Also over time oil can become dirty and lose its quallities

[CRXDEL501]

if a car doesnt burn any oil at all theres something wrong

LOL

Guess there's something wrong with my car

[Lukey]

LOL

Guess there's something wrong with my car

what ive been told from someone whos been in the trade for 30 off years, my tradeschool teacher.

im going to believe him any day of the week over internet mechanics (not implying all people here dont know what theyre talking about)

[migoreng]

Cars especially high revving hondas are going to burn oil if your going to be driving them high in the rev range most of the time , why do you think there are little top up bottles like castrol edge etc

1L top up bottles are expensive..find an oil that you like and stay with it..keep buying 5L bottles especially when they are on sale.

I just came back inside from topping up oil in my h22a4 Prelude...I loose half a litre every 1000km and I don't exactly drive like a granny. Currently i'm using 5w40 Synpower and my engine has over 240,000km..it has been loosing oil at the same rate over the last 3 years...

Car runs fines, fuel consumption is great..can't complain about the performance..it seems to be doing well for its age...0-100kph in low 7s and I only have basic mods.

However my partner's 98 EK GLi basically uses no oil..currently has 170,000km+...bought it with 140,000km...Did use 5w30 edge for a while but then switched back to Honda FEO...I say the oil level drops 1mm between 7500km services.

[vtecing]

LOL

Guess there's something wrong with my car




what ive been told from someone whos been in the trade for 30 off years, my tradeschool teacher.

im going to believe him any day of the week over internet mechanics (not implying all people here dont know what theyre talking about)

Sounds like ur motors effed mate, LOL

[CRXDEL501]

Sounds like ur motors effed mate, LOL

Haha

I was being sarcastic lol

Mines in perfect condition :)

[Lepperfish]

I was using motul 300v chrono 10w-40 and it did burn a bit over 5000km of driving, less then 1L though.

I have switched to royal purple 10w-40 and I find that burns even less. Oh yeah on a DC2R.

Have been using the RP for about 15,000km now. Car only does about 5,000km a year and while I do like to Vtec it is never abused.

[loveit]

Mate as many members have said there are many variables as to an anserw to this but i can tell you my experience. My dc2r have 203,000kms and i use castrol 5w-30 fully synthetic and i done an oil change 8,000kms ago and i only notice a very slight change of oil level on the dipstick. By estimation id say about 1ltr at the most for 8,000kms in my experience. Hope this help could use a positive rating :)