My Blue RB3 Odyssey

[Philip Lee]

hi,

just want to say i finally bought my Odyssey. it's a RB3 blue luxury and a major change from an EP3. i didn't realise how big the ODC is until i parked it in the garage.

i'm both happy and sad at the moment. Happy with the nice features and comfort of the RB3 but i really miss the power and handling of the Type R. for those who are running coilovers, does it improve the handling significantly?

there are a few plans for the car, tints, Nav HU + rear cam and speakers, some interior bits and pieces, parking sensors, maybe fitting my rays and install Teins.

first pic, what do you think about this colour combo?

http://imageupload.com.au/users/public/f45062imagebj58.jpg

[AusAccord]

Nice purchase!! what color of the 18" rim is? i think either bright or diamond cut polish suit this blue body color. coilover definitely improve handling and ride quality from pax point of view but do not expect like an EP3. May be a set of sway bar will close up the gap a bit between RB3 and EP3 hehe

Again welcome to Odyssey family and happy modding!!

[evolution]

Welcome the the Odyssey old man club!

Hmmm colour combo is pretty standard I guess. Haven't seen many in that blue.

As AusAccord said, from a RB1 stand point the coilovers helped quite a bit, never driven an EP3R before so can't compare, but it feels better than my FD1 on Tein springs, comfort suffers though.

[Philip Lee]

the wheel in the pic is bronze in 18". some ppl say bronze suits dark blue ok but some don't. i think it's ok, besides i don't have budget to spend on wheels lol

at the moment, i find RB3 is too comfy. there is no feel from the steering and susspension and the rear bounced along with the road. it just lacks any road feel.

not expected the handling from EP3 but middle ground would be good. also the gap between guard and tyre definitely need closing up haha.

i don't think there are much diff between the RB3 and RB1 apart from look. chassis and drivetrain are pretty much similar.

would 10k spring rates be too firm? that's what Teins are doing for Odyssey.

thanks

[evolution]

Common complain is that on stock suspension the rear bounces too much and the 3rd row ppl vomit.. Hahaha

[AusAccord]

i would prefer my RB1 drives like RB3 as yours is much smoother even only 6kw more as i remember. also GruippeM has intake kit for RB3 but none on RB1. only down side on RB3 i reckon is without tiptronic gearbox for family men haha

may be gold/dark bronze color will look good on blue. mine is 8k and now i found is pretty firm due to wore out by Sydney roads for 3 yrs *crying*
just curious, why Tein instead of other brands?

[Philip Lee]

i must say RB3 is very smooth. it was better than i thought.

no intention on power mod so Gruppe M is a no go.

i like Tein because Street Basic is cheap lol i've had Super Street on my Mx5 and EP3 and they seems to be ok for street use and handling definitely improved. for RB3 i'm only looking for ride height adjustments so i dun need the 16 clicks. also the fact that Fulcrum Suspension can rebuild Tein locally is something that i like.

what else is popular for lowering?

third row is strictly for carrying stuff and only when used for emergency so it's fine but i'll make sure i carry some plastic bags in the car hahaha

one more thing, what do you guys run as muffler/exhaust tip? i saw many JDM people put S2k tips and are they easily interchangable? stock tips are definitely too small and in a weird angle!!

thanks

[Philip Lee]

oh btw the flippers, i don't mind not having it. i never used them on my old Jazz so it's ok.

[AusAccord]

rebuild availability is a good point as i'm scratching my head now where i can get my Ohlins rebuilds......

as far as exhaust mod, members here are listed as follows:
aka_NSX - catback Fujitsubo Wagolis for Absolute
Atjo - catback HKS Legamax Premium
Evolution - catback HKS Legamax Premium
mobil1 - catback HKS Hi-Power 409
AusAccord - AP2 exhaust tips (will update soon)

[Philip Lee]

AusAccord, where did u get AP2 tips? Just Honda dealer? Hope it's not too exxy as I wanna do the same!!

You planning to DIY?

Thanks

[AusAccord]

got mine new from YAJ, AUD 170 a pair delivered. U can try Honda dealers in AUS and bet its over AUD 300.... yeah DIYed for long time and end product pics are on my Ricey thread hehe

[evolution]

How much does it usually cost to rebuild a set of coilovers?

Is it worth rebuilding or just throw away and change?

[Philip Lee]

good question. probably around 50 - 70% cost of brand new but once rebuilt its like brand new.

sorry noob question, what is YAJ? thanks

[AusAccord]

good to hear that then i just buy another set than rebuild. sorry YAJ = Yahoo Auction Japan. Ask how much from Honda dealer 1st as you may not want getting stuffs from Japan at this stage.

[Philip Lee]

honda dealer wants my left kidney lol

seriously yeah i'll do that but as you said i don't imagine cheaper than $300.

i will be getting stuff from Japan soon anyway so it's ok.

[AusAccord]

^^ lol but very true on Honda dealers in AUS

[Philip Lee]

just read thru your "RB1 ricy mod" thread but can't find anything about the AP2 exhaust tip.....

am i blind or something? thanks

[AusAccord]

sorry, should be before the ricey starts or actually not a ricey mod hehe. anyways, here you go

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?97784-AP2-Exhaust-Tips-on-Odyssey-RB1/page2&highlight=ap2

[Philip Lee]

thanks man. awesome work.

do you still have the DIY links?

cheers

[mr180sx]

Congrats on the new purchase! Should decide on different coilovers rather then teins, i think there a bit soft and dont go low enough

[Philip Lee]

Thx mate but I dun want too hard nor too low. Sounds like what I want!!!!

[evolution]

To help your research, here's something I did sometime ago.

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?125618-Mugen-RB3-ODC-Aero-Dynamics&p=2602273&viewfull=1#post2602273

Might want to consider Mugen or Modulo suspension, heard they are pretty comfy, only problem is that they are not adjustable and cost about the same a coilovers.

[Mobil1]

bro Philip, dont bother with HKS Hipower 409 if you got kids, damn loud. also I'm running 14k springs, damn stiff especially with profile 35 tyre. 14k springs + strut + profile tire + hks 409 = hell ride for passengers, for driver its damn fun though. LOL

bro Andy & Damien, what do you mean by coilovers rebuild? how do you know its time to rebuild it?

[AusAccord]

thanks man. awesome work.

do you still have the DIY links?

cheers


email address please, in word files....

[AusAccord]

bro Philip, dont bother with HKS Hipower 409 if you got kids, damn loud. also I'm running 14k springs, damn stiff especially with profile 35 tyre. 14k springs + strut + profile tire + hks 409 = hell ride for passengers, for driver its damn fun though. LOL

bro Andy & Damien, what do you mean by coilovers rebuild? how do you know its time to rebuild it?

blahhhh hahahaha.... i'm sure its fun for driving alone but also fun with whole family as party time all the time haha

when you heard the knocking sounds, feel rebound non stops not absorbing, damn hard all are the symptom its time of its life

[Philip Lee]

Pm sent thx mate.

[AusAccord]

Pm sent thx mate.

gone already, have fun!!

[Philip Lee]

bro Philip, dont bother with HKS Hipower 409 if you got kids, damn loud. also I'm running 14k springs, damn stiff especially with profile 35 tyre. 14k springs + strut + profile tire + hks 409 = hell ride for passengers, for driver its damn fun though. LOL

bro Andy & Damien, what do you mean by coilovers rebuild? how do you know its time to rebuild it?

Lol thx for your advice.

I have no plan for exhaust as I dun see the point for power mods but I had silent 409 on my old jazz and they weren't too bad.

[Philip Lee]

gone already, have fun!!

Thx heaps

[AusAccord]

its not power mod, its more perception mods haha. sounds wave gets into you brain then convert it to energy makes you feel like driving a R35. once energy hits then makes you feel young again. thats why an intake and exhaust are a must for modding, you know what i mean hehe

[Philip Lee]

Lol very interesting theory!!

I guess I'm lucky I still have another relatively fun car.

[aka_NSX]

congrats Phil on your new ride,

so the Bugs Mod never ended,

since you getting stuff from Japan you should just get a new rims but 2nd hand and your Odys would look much better, bcoz that Rays SE-37 is just too old for the car mate, and again you need to buy a new tyres otherwise is just too small for the Odys

so you still coming in June ?

[Philip Lee]

i know Laski but i don't have the budget right now to spend $2k + on rims. would love a set of 19s but sat nav, coilovers etc take priority over wheels.

as to June, i'm still waiting for Ken to make his decision. just spoke to him this morning and he will let me know soonish.

would love your assistance as i can trust you 200% on your work but it depends on Ken now. once he tells me he is staying then i'll email you for the detail.

so when is Kenwood releasing their new Sat Nav HU?

thanks.

[Philip Lee]

question about brake pads.

does odyssey share the pads with other Honda models?

thanks

[AusAccord]

good question, honestly do not know. everytime i search on aftermarket pad on CL9, FD2R, RB1/3, they have different part nr so no definitely answer. even different pads size on just RB1 as Japanese has L type which running 282mm front rotor and ours is 300mm. someone can correct me if i'm wrong.

[Philip Lee]

damn. so you guys just use OEM Honda?

thanks

[AusAccord]

OEM on front and Dixcel at rear atm. will have Ferodo on front once the ricey installed then an un-used Dixcel front pair will be for sale

[Philip Lee]

the Ferodo goes with the BBK?

stock Honda brakes are crap. why can't they use better stuff.....

[AusAccord]

ah ha... common comments on RB brakes and you will comment more once yr wagon fully loaded with 6/7 haha

[Philip Lee]

no just RB man.

i had a Jazz GD3 and Civic Type R EP3 and all have crap brakes.....

[evolution]

JBT BBK up front, Mugen pads at the rear. Looking at putting EBC pads on the rears cos the pads are almost gone after 55k km of driving.

[Philip Lee]

so Odc pads are specific? doesn't share with other hondas?

thanks

[AusAccord]

^^ not quite true as well. if you do the actual measurement, i'm sure it will share with other models especially FD2R and CL7R. we just have no definitely answer and data base to support this unless someone really tried.

FYI, i know Project Mu full 4pot kit for CL7R is a direct bolt onto RB1 with 300mm OEM rotor because someone did it already. But i can't say another brand full 4pot kit be the same.

[Atjo]

Polish or gold coloured rims would suit nicely.

[Atjo]

bro Philip, dont bother with HKS Hipower 409 if you got kids, damn loud. also I'm running 14k springs, damn stiff especially with profile 35 tyre. 14k springs + strut + profile tire + hks 409 = hell ride for passengers, for driver its damn fun though. LOL

bro Andy & Damien, what do you mean by coilovers rebuild? how do you know its time to rebuild it?

Wanna swap exhaust? hehe

[AusAccord]

^^ blahhhhhaha the best thread for today lol

[Philip Lee]

Getting tints done now. yay lol

[AusAccord]

pics?

[Philip Lee]

pics?

Monday!

Pretty dark from B pillar back I must say. Don't want people to see what's in the boot.

[Philip Lee]

http://imageupload.com.au/users/public/f41254imageh58.jpeg

[AusAccord]

wahhhh.... what are you planning to do inside the Odyssey?!?! dark as a bangbus haha

[Philip Lee]

and i'll put some taobao curtains in as well hahahahhahaaha

honestly that wasn't what i ordered but i'm not complaining!!

[evolution]

Trying to relive the RB1 commercial I see. Careful the 7 seats could get filled up pretty quick ;p

[Philip Lee]

lolol

definitely no plan for more kids, i plan to keep my 3rd roll permanently folded down......

[Philip Lee]

asked Honda dealer on the price of AP2 muffler tip and they want $170 each overnight order from Melb.

[AusAccord]

worth every cent haha... typical Honda Australia

[Philip Lee]

so Aus, did you end up selling your tips?

thanks

[AusAccord]

haven't thought abt that yet as car is off the road. will def let you know if i have no use of them.

[Atjo]

Just get a catback :p

[Philip Lee]

Just get a catback :p

no sir. this is a very budget build family car. want to save up for my next fun car. haha

[Philip Lee]

quick update. stuff came in last week:


http://s1d6.turboimagehost.com/t1/7360016_image2.jpeg

still waiting for my Mugen visors from JDMyard. it should arrive next week.. fingers crossed...

[Philip Lee]

quick update.

mugen visors arrived and fitted. springs fitted.

pls excuse for the dirty car. pic taken on the way back from Sydney to Brisbane.

http://img.acianetmedia.com/i/rbjun11.jpg

Alpine INA-W900E + Alpine rear cam and front/rear parking sensors fitted (Big thanks to aka_NSX for doing a great job with installation, workmanship is faultless!!):

http://img.acianetmedia.com/i/rbjun11bj.jpg

[Philip Lee]

one more quick pic to show the gap of rear wheels/guard:

http://img.acianetmedia.com/i/imagej.jpg

[Philip Lee]

http://img.acianetmedia.com/i/dsc03847.jpg

here is my blue whale meeting with Ausaccord's hot RB1. it was nice meeting you and thanks heaps for your gift.

[evolution]

Nice and low!

[Philip Lee]

it is low but surprisingly didn't scrap anything in Sydney with 2 adults, 2 kids and luggage for 1 week.

however i scrapped the front bumper flap and crashed my front left sussy once i got back to Brisbane......

[AusAccord]

very nice photoshop skill putting our RB together haha
nice to you as well, your RB is sexy when rolling on Pitt St...... i even turn back and see you drive out

[aka_NSX]

Wow, thats a quick updated post on your ride, dont you need to do other things when you arrive lol

I heard you enjoy your drive back up to Brissy coz no more boring system to listen, so when is your next trip to Syd again ?

[AusAccord]

^^ haha... he will be backed soon as miss all tasting foods in Sydney

[Philip Lee]

^^ haha. yeah the ride back home was more interesting. rain, less road work becos of the rain, awesome music and settled kids watching DVD at the back.

feels quicker going back than coming down.

but i guess once a year is enough haha.

yeah you are right Laski, i should update the map on the HU asap for the 30 days latest map gurantee thingy.

[Adrian128]

Hi Phillip.. if you don't mind me asking, what springs are those, where did you get them, and how much? I want to lower my RB3 as well..

[Philip Lee]

hi Adrian.

they are Tanabe NF210 http://www.rd-tanabe.com/lineup/sustec/nf210/index.html

got them from Yahoo Auction Japan via an agent. i was lucky to pay around 20,000 yen + EMS. usually they are around 40,000 yen + EMS.

they are reasonably soft so the ride doesn't suffer too much but handling improved quite a bit. but you will need to be careful over speed bumps etc

[Adrian128]

Thanks Phillip.. I'll check out Yahoo Auctions..

[Philip Lee]

no worries mate.

there are other brands like RSR, Teins etc.

choose carefully as the ride height and stiffness varies. for example RSR has about 4 different springs for RB3. anything with 30-35mm drops (like mine) would be the maximum without scrapping anything. if u need to carry load and or 7 people at lot, you will need something less aggressive again like 20 - 25mm.

if i have to pay full price, i'd probably get RSR Ti2000 with the rear slightly higher to offset weight. i only got Tanabe becos of the price but i'm not regretting. but i wish the rear is 5mm higher in case i need to carry load.

if you have more question, feel free to ask.

[Philip Lee]

http://img.acianetmedia.com/i/tips.jpgfitted the S2k tips over the weekend.

[ez30rb]

hey Phil, I can't see the pics for some reason. Do you mind uploading again? Want to see pics with fitted springs

[Philip Lee]

hey Phil, I can't see the pics for some reason. Do you mind uploading again? Want to see pics with fitted springs

maybe i just post the links?

http://www.postimg.com/41000/photo-40692.jpg

http://www.postimg.com/41000/photo-40693.jpg

http://www.postimg.com/41000/photo-40694.jpg

http://www.postimg.com/41000/photo-40695.jpg

pls let me know if you still have problem.

[ez30rb]

very nice.. i'm considering this, but am worried about my enormous driveway

[Philip Lee]

thanks. you might want to get RSR half low or Tein Hi-tech. they drop around 20-25mm so should be ok.

my Tanabe drops by 30-40mm. i have 1 and a bit finger gap up front and 1 finger gap at the back. i think this is the maximum drop or will start scrapping with loads.

[Winno]

Your car is looking very nice there with the slight drop.
I will probably keep my wheels for a while but did want to lower the car a little. I also have an RB3 Lux.

I do have to keep in mind that I may go for some 18"x 8J x ET? wheels at some stage, but more importantly, I don't want to sacrifice the ride comfort.
In choosing springs, I want something that will drop the car about 30mm and is very close to the feel that the factory set up gives with perhaps only a very small increase in firmness, rather than going softer.

Would you say that the Tanabe springs you have keep the same feel and would allow for a larger/wider wheel?
Also, if you don't mind, how much in AU$ did they cost shipped?
And what's the cost for fitting, including any camber adjustment, etc?
What part number are these?

I've had a Tanabe exhaust on my Subaru years ago and the quality was very good. So, I have no problem with their other products.

Cheers,
Steve

[Philip Lee]

the tanabe springs i have (NF210) has slightly softer rate at the front and slightly harder at the back. but since it's a fixed rate springs as opposed to stock progressive, they feel more directly and slightly firmer. i think it's a good compromise. however if u need to carry load a lot, i suggest go for RSR because their rear spring rate is a little harder and should in theory avoid scrapping more than my Tanabe. however i recently drove from Brisbane to Sydney for a holiday with the family. 2 adults, 2 kids and a week's luggage and never scrapped anything. can't say about fitting 7 people tho as i never tried. also i am still on stock wheels so i don't know how ride will be effected with lower profile tyres.

i got the springs with other bits and pieces so i don't know the exact amount for shipping for the springs alone. i got the springs from Yahoo Auction Japan and it was from a private seller (still brand new) so my price is a one off. i suggest you ask some import agents directly for quote.

cost for fitting was $250 as the rear pairs a slightly harder to fit without taking off all the interior trims. i was happy to pay a little more for my mechanics to avoid that. you will also need rear camber arm when you drop your car. you may want to buy this together with your springs from japan as there are more choices. they can be around 20000 yen to 30000 yen depends on brand (without shipping to Aus). natural camber for the front should be enough.

overall i'm happy with my springs. if i have to pay full price i'd go RSR for the higher rear spring rate just in case.

[Winno]

Ok, great feedback.
Will start looking around for what I can do and what I need to get.
The car has two adults and two kids mainly. Sometimes we also have luggage for trips away. When we do have seven people, it's two adults and 5 kids and no luggage.

[lf9888]

quick update.

mugen visors arrived and fitted. springs fitted.

pls excuse for the dirty car. pic taken on the way back from Sydney to Brisbane.

http://img.acianetmedia.com/i/rbjun11.jpg

Alpine INA-W900E + Alpine rear cam and front/rear parking sensors fitted (Big thanks to aka_NSX for doing a great job with installation, workmanship is faultless!!):

http://img.acianetmedia.com/i/rbjun11bj.jpg

Hi Philip,
Just saw the pic and looks great. I am ready to put one in my odyssey now.Is the reverse camera visible from the back? Cheers

[ella79]

Hi Philip,
What brand parking sensors did you fit and where is the display for them mounted on or around your dash? or are they just audible ones without a display?

[Philip Lee]

^ My sensors are a Japanese brand which I got off a fd who bought them in Japan.

As u can see from the HU pic on the last page, the little thing next to it is the sensor display.

[Philip Lee]

wheels arrived and fitted. sorry for the pic quality as taken by an iphone.

http://www.postimg.com/51000/photo-50844.jpg

[AusAccord]

this is shXt..... i mean pic quality haha
i'm jelly now and want to chase up now

[Bludger]

New wheels very similar, Honda ones look better in my eyes.

[Philip Lee]

haha did that on purpose becos the car is very dirty. pic like this doesn't show dirt hahaha

[Winno]

Nicely done Philip.
Makes the back end look nice n phat.

[Philip Lee]

thanks Winno.

for the record, the front has a 1 finger gap between guard and tyre and the rear has half a finger gap.

[Atjo]

The mods only just begun haha

[Philip Lee]

haha Atjo, i'm not as hardcore as you are!!!!

i'm just a ricer.

[Atjo]

Ricer is Andy so you have to come up with something else :p

[AusAccord]

yap, pls do not use "ricer", "ricey" etc if not intended modding to that path hahahaha

[Philip Lee]

Just done another ricy LED rear reflector so I'm qualified to use that term!

[aka_NSX]

Well done mate, nice looking RB3 now

[Philip Lee]

added pic. this is on parker.

http://www.postimg.com/52000/photo-51857.jpg

[2k1cvc]

Nice... are they the AME's XF-55? also what size and offset are they if yo dont mind shairng :p

[Philip Lee]

Nice... are they the AME's XF-55? also what size and offset are they if yo dont mind shairng :p

thanks.

yes they are AME XF-55 in 19x8+48. offset is good for the front but slightly weak for the back but i haven't fixed up my alignment yet and hopefully with some rear camber adjustment the rear will look better.