swapping my 2007 Jazz VTIS for R34 GTT

[kl85]

Hey guys I'm considering swapping my jazz only after 2 months of owning it. Do you guys think it's a wise idea to trade my jazz forma 1998 Nissan r34 gtt auto? Im worried that if that old car gives wAy I'm screwed......

[fillit]

umm...... they are completely different cars.

a jazz is more of a reliable economic daily with abit of spirit under the bonnet when you floor it.

whereas the r34 gtt is a "sports car" although being auto it does take away alot of the fun.

also are you still on Ps? as driving a turbo car is illegal under Ps.

[kl85]

Hey dude, I'm not on my Ps. Am kinda old alr haha. Just worried that I might face mechanical problems in such an old car..

[fillit]

oh that's alright then, umm it's up to you, personally i wouldn't purchase a sports car which is automatic because i find shifting gears a part of the whole experience.

fact is you're going to find mechanical problems in probably every car you come across at some point, what is the condition of the R34? remember it being an automatic depreciates the value greatly as they almost never really in demand.

[flipfire]

I sometimes drive my mates GTT manual, its got a more power. Other than that, its big and a gas guzzler compared to a jazz.

Skyline does looks better on the outside but i prefer the inside of the jazz.

[androo]

Automatic Skylines aren't actually worth very much. Check carsales etc and see if it's worth it value wise first. Obviously take KMs and condition into the equation as well.

But yeh the two cars are completely different. The Jazz is reliable and fuel efficient while being extremely practical. The GTT is not really any of those things. well maintained it can be reliable, but has no room in the rear and the boot isn't really anything special.

Have you driven one before? Take it for a spin and see if you like it. To be honest I would prefer the Jazz (I drove my cousins GTT for a while when he had it and it wasn't really anything special. And when he left the country and asked me to sell it it took me 3 months and ended up selling a fairly mint R34 GTT Automatic with 133,XXXkms for $10,000 because he needed the money). This was 2 years ago.

Let us know what you decide! Why do you want to trade your Jazz already though?

[kl85]

Haha the jazz power doesn't satisfy me.. And I have been talkin bout getting parts from fillit to mod my jazz but after some thought I think I rather get a more powerful car instead... U guys reckon power wise it's alot of difference? I'm thinking bout auto cause I wanna use it for daily commute haha.

[SajadEG]

Personally i wouldn't do it.

Even though both cars are priced closely, auto skylines aren't somethng to get excited over.

[Gnat]

Look into super/turbo charging the Jazz? Won't be anywhere near as powerful, but you keep your bootspace, plus a lot easier to find parking spots :)

[DC2-PWR]

my mate has auto turbo r34 gtt

car is reliable because it had a really good history. everything done and changed when it needs to be done
car interior is pretty nice, a/c cold, rear leg room are good size for adults
car boot is massive, bigger than jazz thats for sure


car chews a damn lotta fuel, he gets 350km a tank and if his lucky, 420km. thats (60ltr tank i think)
car has 6 cylinders - more rego to pay
car isn't that fast, its stock, just an average car.

umm thats all i can remember that he said, his happy, but fuel consumption he isn't happy about. hence fuel price these days.

good luck,

[charliebrown]

my mate has auto turbo r34 gtt

car is reliable because it had a really good history. everything done and changed when it needs to be done
car interior is pretty nice, a/c cold, rear leg room are good size for adults
car boot is massive, bigger than jazz thats for sure


car chews a damn lotta fuel, he gets 350km a tank and if his lucky, 420km. thats (60ltr tank i think)
car has 6 cylinders - more rego to pay
car isn't that fast, its stock, just an average car.

umm thats all i can remember that he said, his happy, but fuel consumption he isn't happy about. hence fuel price these days.

good luck,

You pay more rego cos it has more cylinders? Is that a brisbane thing?

[DC2-PWR]

You pay more rego cos it has more cylinders? Is that a brisbane thing?

Yeah,

wait... don't tell me you guys are paying one rego???

[charliebrown]

^I haven't looked into it... but was talking to my mate the other day who drives a 6cyl and he said his rego was $630ish which is same as mine

[kl85]

Ya we are paying one rego price. And I am looking at driving 10 days a month to school only... So an auto r34 is not worth it? Manual? Maybe I shld look more into that..

[drsilliez]

ur asking ozhonda. of course all the answers are gonna be keep the jazz. if u pop over to http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/, i bet no one would say keep the jazz.

just depends on what u want. reliability, economy, power, safety etc like what everyone has said so far. if the jazz's power doesnt satisfy u, i bet even with it FI, it still woundnt satisfy u (not the way the gtt would). depends on what u want mate. Like some of the guys above have said, go drive the gtt and see what u think.

[fillit]

Look into super/turbo charging the Jazz? Won't be anywhere near as powerful, but you keep your bootspace, plus a lot easier to find parking spots :)

Well a standard bolt on kit is around 4k then with installation and tune you're gonna be looking at least 6k + also need brakes upgrade etc. needless to say you might see your pistons on the ground with your car on the side of the road without the proper internal work done.

I don't see turbo charging/supercharging jazz's as an economical solution for now as the car is still worth decent money, maybe in a few years when the price depreciates more than we will see a few more come through (as if you blow your engine kswaps would be easy to find considering the amounts of euros running around).

I think if you were to invest that much into a jazz you may aswell pay abit more and do a K20 swap (then again you might aswell get an ep3r) alternatively just sell up, put in a few thousand and find yourself a R32GTR :D

[kl85]

Yeah that was what i was think. Sell it insteadnof modding it. Tested 2 r34 ystd. Was crazily good.. Now I have to try n sell my jazz haha....

[threesix]

weird that you bought the jazz and want to sell it straight away.

[UNLS1]

Auto skyline is EPIC FAIL!

[fillit]

weird that you bought the jazz and want to sell it straight away.

I think i was on that boat for a while, then i discovered 4500rpm + on windy roads :D

in my personal opinion the jazz is a great learner car when you're on Ps, where you get to understand the fundamentals of car control and maintenance as most things you can D.I.Y. The power or somewhat (lack of) would save you being wrapped around a tree a few times in your early driving career opposed to something with more brunt. but there will always come a time where you will move on from it and look at bigger things, likewise my situation atm.

[$BBB]

This was a choice when I was deciding to get a car, went with the Jazz. I think it was a great idea as the fuel economy is better and resale prices are better for now. This is a students point of view though.

[kl85]

Yeah I am a student still n have been driving for 8 years. im in the health industry and my take is if I don't drive a skyline now I might not get The chance in the future since it's a good car getting reAlly old... And I don't wanna take a r34 with bait of vroom room exhaust to the clinic next time haha... See how it goes.. Have alr put my car up for sale.

[threesix]

links for carsales?

[kl85]

http://carsales.mobi/cars/details/?R=10421006&Cr=21&trecs=42
Sorry I am outside now hope u can view the link
If not it's on car sales
Black vtis 43000km parkville victoria

[kl85]

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=10421006&__Qpb=true&Cr=6&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_PriceSort_Decimal |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294965322% 204294965319%20903&silo=1011&__No=30&seot=1&tsrc=allcarhome&__Nne=15&trecs=363&__sid=12F29BE09179

[GU357]

Comparison between the 2 is futile, completely different cars.

And mechanical problems shouldn't be much of an issue there are tonnes of these things around, a 1998 is a new one in comparison to the skyline range.
but i dont think it would make a better car than the Jazz, the skyline is a poser, that can usually back itself up with performance too.
but the jazz (vtec) gives u more of a sleeper... more power than you expect (however still not massive amounts).

so your a poser or you have grace xD

i plan on buying a GTR34 after my Jazz but i will get the MT, anything else is ridiculous - unless your license says u can only drive AT, in which case you should question why you only went for AT.
and when i get my GTR34 i expect that ill still be on my P's (WA's law is kinda slow, so i plan to exploit that)

[kl85]

Don't get me wrong bro I love the jazz, been driving for 8 years, and I weigh out the options of modding my jaZz or getting a more powerful car. U can say skylines are posers, but driving a fully modded jaZz is worse than driving a stock r34 IMO. I still love hondas btw. =]

[threesix]

lower the jazz and enjoy the crap out of it. looks sick!!

[GU357]

I still love hondas btw. =]
then get a honda sports car LOL.
i really wanna get Civic Type R EP3
or get that engine on my jazz XD

[fillit]

then get a honda sports car LOL.
i really wanna get Civic Type R EP3
or get that engine on my jazz XD


The main difference is with non honda sports cars is that it's RWD, unfortunately barring the s2k and nsx which are both quite pricey, honda does not have anything on range that meets that requirement. For me i'm trying to move onto a dc5r/dc5s however i know that in the future i will strive to own a rwd sports car, even if it means supercharging a VY commodore :D

Engine swapping a jazz isn't the most economical solution atm, but it's getting there, give it a few more years when engines are parts are easier to obtain then you will see some more come through, like the egs/eks of today

[GU357]

Yeh i know im just saying if i really wanted a sports car, and really wanted another honda i would get the CTR EP3, something about sporty hatches that intrigues me xD
Whats the power output on the DC5R?

But i will never go ford or holden. the whole grouping on holdens vs fords is stupid, dont want any part of it.
when they race the V8 supercars and idiots are cheering for their team cos they think the car is better, thats just stupid both cars are exactly the same, they arent even representative of their real road cars.

[fillit]

DC5R is around 160kw i believe on a 1200kg chassis, EP3R is around 120kw on a 1100kg chassis? not entirely sure on the specs.

However i find the DC5R more visually appealing and more of a change than the EP3R.

Commodores actually have a really really comfy ride, i've driven my friends V8 before, and i've got to say it's got some balls, just terrible handling though. With that being said XR6s gives a fair amount of power too.

[kl85]

Yeah wld love a dc5r s2k or ep3r but can't really afford them now.... Holdies and fords makes my vomit vomit a little bit every time i see them hoon around

[levi R]

Lol today I saw a com that not only had a headband hanging from rearview mirror but had red one tied to both front mags. Rears where steelies. what a dunce

Dc5r- 147kw
Ep3r(jdm) - 158kw


U were way off!

[fillit]

my bad on the dc5r,

ep3r is 120kw on the wheel, 158kw on the fly.

[kl85]

Btw, forgot to let you guys noe how the r34 feels. It feels solid, low and stuck to the ground even for a 13year old car. Power on an auto was awesome enough for me, the guy had an exhaust the size of my fist haha.. but aint gonna get his, gonna look for a stock non molested r34 instead. Although i must say the paddle shifter on my jazz feels much better and faster than on the r34s button shifter..just my 2 cents =]
And someone buy my Jazz Damnit! i can hear the turbo ringing in my ears every morning when i wake up from a nice wet r34 dream.