DC5 dyno run

[v-tec bro]

hey guys
i recently just had a dyno run on my IT-S and honestly was expecting more hp out of my car. so i just want to know if anyone else out there has done a dyno run that i can compare. im also interested in the difference in power between type r and type s at the current time taking into considerations loss of power through age of the car.
im looking for a comparison between the integra DC5 type r and type s dyno run.
so just provide the mods done to the car and most importantly the hp atw.

[dougie_504]

What mods do you have and what did your car pull ATW?

[u mad?]

a standard dc5r should make about 110kw at the treads, im guessing a type s should be about 115kw?

every dyno is different though.

What did yours make?

[Nuci]

Mine makes 190hp at the wheels with race header, catback, mugen intake and kpro. Don't expect huge power from your dc5, NA engines such as the k-series engines are notoriously hard to extract power from. Because the of the quality of oem parts used, big $$$ have to be spent for relatively small gains compared to say an rb25 or 2jz. While power mods are always good, you should make an effort to save weight wherever you can. Lighter exhaust, rims, remove unnecessary interior, etc. All these things add up. Most powerful NA DC5 I've seen in real life made just under 200kw atw. Might not sound like much but it is a hugely quick car. 140 kw and you'll be giving most stockish turbos a run for their money

[r3ckless]

Mine makes 190hp at the wheels with race header, catback, mugen intake and kpro. Don't expect huge power from your dc5, NA engines such as the k-series engines are notoriously hard to extract power from. Because the of the quality of oem parts used, big $$$ have to be spent for relatively small gains compared to say an rb25 or 2jz. While power mods are always good, you should make an effort to save weight wherever you can. Lighter exhaust, rims, remove unnecessary interior, etc. All these things add up. Most powerful NA DC5 I've seen in real life made just under 200kw atw. Might not sound like much but it is a hugely quick car. 140 kw and you'll be giving most stockish turbos a run for their money
Not really my its with i/h/e beat a stockish wrx at 3 consecutive lights

[45SET]

Mine makes 190hp at the wheels with race header, catback, mugen intake and kpro. Don't expect huge power from your dc5, NA engines such as the k-series engines are notoriously hard to extract power from. Because the of the quality of oem parts used, big $$$ have to be spent for relatively small gains compared to say an rb25 or 2jz. While power mods are always good, you should make an effort to save weight wherever you can. Lighter exhaust, rims, remove unnecessary interior, etc. All these things add up. Most powerful NA DC5 I've seen in real life made just under 200kw atw. Might not sound like much but it is a hugely quick car. 140 kw and you'll be giving most stockish turbos a run for their money

Just wondering, why do you also say "190HP"? We use KW in Australia, so your car makes 140kw... which is about on par for those mods.

Agree that a Honda with 200kw ATW can be a very quick car... I know of a few cars in Brisbane making less power, and running 12's.


Not really my its with i/h/e beat a stockish wrx at 3 consecutive lights

Agree with this. I/H/E/untuned K-pro beat a Evo x MR (So paddel shift).

OT: The thread is fairly pointless for a few reasons:
1: You haven't listed what you got on the dyno
2: You haven't listed what mods you have
3: ALL Dyno's are different, and they should only be used as a tuning tool. What somebody gets in Brisbane is going to be different to what someone is going to gets in Sydney with the same mods..

[seihoa]

LOL at hondas beating evos/wrxs at the lights...

Every dyno is different and lots of factors to consider when comparing dyno graphs.

[r3ckless]

Robi's
Step
3 said it all.

[45SET]

LOL at hondas beating evos/wrxs at the lights...

Jelly?

[seihoa]

FWD has no chance at the lights againist an awd launch.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3321/3640894589_e8b1686605.jpg

[45SET]

All 'bout throttle controlllll!!!

(Nice pic)

[seihoa]

Throttle control can only do so much.

Oh yeah, noticed the evo X is paddle shift. Is there a launch control on it? Anyways i still think a evo X will smash a dc5 with basic mods even without a launch.

But i guess your dc5 might have a freak motor =D

Back to topic now.

[Timmy_B]

hey guys
i recently just had a dyno run on my IT-S and honestly was expecting more hp out of my car. so i just want to know if anyone else out there has done a dyno run that i can compare. im also interested in the difference in power between type r and type s at the current time taking into considerations loss of power through age of the car.
im looking for a comparison between the integra DC5 type r and type s dyno run.
so just provide the mods done to the car and most importantly the hp atw.

what did you make on the dyno??

[v-tec bro]

yeah sorry.
just something that popped into my head last night
didn't have enough time to list everything

K24 block with K20 heads
Skunk 2 spec B cams with springs and retainers
CP pistons and Eagle rods
Injen CAI
JDM headers and exhaust
Hondata K-Pro
Tien coil overs

and it gave out 122Kw atw.
does that sounds about right?

any body else can provide specs?

[Nuci]

Wow thats quite a list for only 122kw. A kpro by itself should be making 122kw without any other mods at all. Even the most unkind dynos should still give better numbers than that. Could be a dodgy tuner. Could also be some issues with the motor itself. I dont have half of that stuff and im making more than that. Does it feel quick to drive? Has the kpro been tuned or just installed? If it has been tuned, then in my opinion youve got some sort of mechanical issue there pal.

[45SET]

K24 block with K20 heads - What block (K24a1, K24a3?), What head (k20a, K20a2, K20a3?)
Skunk 2 spec B cams with springs and retainers - What are the specs on the cams?
CP pistons and Eagle rods - Type of pistons?
Injen CAI
JDM headers and exhaust - OEM JDM DC5R headers? OEM JDM DC5R Exhaust?
Hondata K-Pro - Who tuned it?
Tien coil overs - Not going to change power
What intake Manifold are you running?
What Throttle body are you running?
What is your Fuel cut off set at?
Who built the engine?

Like Nuci said, that is VERY low (My car got 116kw stock).

Can you post up a picture of your dyno sheet... not doubting you... but you might be reading it wrong.

[Timmy_B]

yeah sorry.
just something that popped into my head last night
didn't have enough time to list everything

K24 block with K20 heads
Skunk 2 spec B cams with springs and retainers
CP pistons and Eagle rods
Injen CAI
JDM headers and exhaust
Hondata K-Pro
Tien coil overs

and it gave out 122Kw atw.
does that sounds about right?

any body else can provide specs?

wow good list of mods..
IMO i would try another dyno. As i have discovered that not all dynos give an accurate reading.
My base DC5 got 132kw from a local Dyno, (Not sure if they had any idea what they were doing0
But it recently made 110kw atw on the insight dyno. which seems more accurate.

I would imagine you would be well over 130kw atw with those mods

[Nuci]

Theres potential to crack 150 kw with that setup provided its tuned properly. Like i said, a tuned kpro by itself is good for 122 kw.

[GSi_PSi]

im getting 142kw atw with JDM K20, jdmyard kswap header, 2.5 inch straight pipe, Pod Filter. standard EP3 ECU

[THEEYA]

Im guessing its the tuning

[aaronng]

and it gave out 122Kw atw.
does that sounds about right?

any body else can provide specs?
Where did you dyno at?

[dlai5552]

what the LOL...
122 with a K24/k20 build, I think you better go to another dyno. It's been cooler lately, so your car should be making good power.
My friend made 130kw atw with his ITR with Toda headers, spoon n1 exhaust, injen intake... dyno was on dyno dynamics at Toda.

I think you are missing about 40-50 kw atw there mate as you have a fully built engine with pistons, rods, cams and what not.
come to the dyno day at Rigoli Dyno day at Wetherill Park next Sunday and we shall see test if it was your dyno or not.

[v-tec bro]

yeah... sounds good. just give me the address.

as for the car... i just got it about a month ago and most of the tunning and parts come from him.
so i don't know if any of it has been tuned. but i was very suprised at the results.

[45SET]

Receipts for parts?

Did you take this car for a drive before you bought it? Compare it to another stock DC5S? Because with that kind of power, it would feel the same as a DC5R/S with an intake and exhaust... when it should be noticably more powerful across the entire rev range with the mods you listed.

[GSi_PSi]

What kw did he say it made ?. Did he just tell you what he had in it or showed you recipts or boxes anything ? How much you pick it up for aswell

[joe.teg]

http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/tech/htup_0905_vtec_history_and_technology/photo_13.html

that should help you a bit man

[yenvy4]

http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/tech/htup_0905_vtec_history_and_technology/photo_13.html

that should help you a bit man

That equates to 149.14kws for a stock K20AZ Type S??

How can U.S. dyno charts have such high numbers especially when they run a lower 95 Octane fuel and correct me if I'm wrong 93 octane even? They get the same engine as we do.

I've always noticed there numbers are huge for stock cars or cars with mild mods? DC5R, DC5S, S2K etc

[dougie_504]

I've always wondered at that too. Altitude in some areas?

[Rayle]

Their petrol is not actually worse than ours, it's just rated using a different system. In Australia we use the Research Octane Number (RON), but in Canada/USA they use the Anti-Knock Index (AKI), which is the average of the RON and Motor Octane Number. Since different methods are used to calculate the different octane numbers, the MON rating is usually around 8-10 points higher than the RON number, leading to a 4-5 point difference between RON and AKI.

Thus, our 98RON is equivalent to their 93AKI, 95RON is around 91AKI and 91RON (regular) is 87AKI.

[JDM DC2R]

Go to the drags. Weigh the car and see what your average MPH is. " MPH at the drags should be quite constant. unlike Et " Use the calculators online. Ive found them to be quite accurate.