opinions on the injen cai on a accord euro

[peterdep]

hi there, i have been looking into injen cai's and am thinking of purchasing one for my 04' accord euro. I would like to know people's opinions on the product. there are some questions that i would like to ask:
1. the benefits
2. the downsides
3. good or bad for fuel consumption or any differences
4. if it is worth the money, and worth putting in your car

if you could please help me with my enquiries, id appreciate it. cheers

[white_ep3_civic]

They are a great CAI for the money. Can't really say anything bad about them.

[Simonnn]

1. the benefits

Car sounds good under throttle, you can actually hear the vtec crossover at 6k rpm too. Oh, and the pipe is super shiny..

2. the downsides

Really doesnt do that much in terms of performance, the sound makes you feel like you're going faster yo :cool:, chance of hydrolocking if you drive through a river (actually happened to a friend of mine!)

3. good or bad for fuel consumption or any differences

No really noticeable difference really, although you're more tempted to floor it just to hear the induction sound, and that could result in the use of more fuel

4. if it is worth the money, and worth putting in your car

I'd say so, because you get a shiny pipe in your engine bay and it gives you +50kW (not really). Honestly you only get it for the sound, and if you wanted that you can just retrofit a pod filter to the stock airbox setup.. but each to their own (I bought an Injen myself a while back)

[cheapdouchebag]

i hear the cheaper alternative the comptech icebox (ct engineering) is a better bang for your buck. All it really is is a redesigned stock airbox which supposably improves air flow and instead of a resonator theres a cold air duct pipe.
Ive read on tsx forums that the yanks do swear they notice a difference, not so much in sound though, but also is improved when the comptech icebox air filter is replaced with a k&n panel.

im thinking of doing this to my euro, we'll see. just a thought

[Fredoops]

Injen: aggressive sounding and looking, can convert to SRI if needed, Minor gains. Relatively expansive, hydrolocking prone, so if you live thru The recent flash flood in melbourne can hydrolock your engine. And theres no gain low rev range (some people say you actually lose power)

Icebox: LEGAL. discrete/stock looking, relatively quieter (with the ct form filter, it's louder if you change to a K&N filver I've heard). Matches injen gains, no problem with hydrolocking. Much cheaper, no loss of power down low according to the yanks who got it

Injen you are looking $375 (injen) vs $235 (icebox).

For injen vs icebox dyno: http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/showthread.php?t=35087

[JDM-BOY]

this wat i noticed in my DC2


BTW just adding CAI is illegal in (vic) car must have a BOXED air intake system


1. the benefits

more air suck
better high RPM (faster gain)
the sucking noise sounds coolo heheheh ^^
2. the downsides

raining days is HELL..... possiblity of sucking in water and GONE
also depending on ride height i guess

3. good or bad for fuel consumption or any differences

With my DC2 i had CAI injen and catback. i found it that a little more petral was used up.

4. if it is worth the money, and worth putting in your car

i would say yes, i loved mine. make it feel quicker/cooler to drive.............VTEC sound more ANIMAL


good luck and hope u get one :)


JDM-BOY

[Fredoops]

You still won't notice the vtec much in the euro even with the injen, cause the k24a3 is designed differently.

[Simonnn]

You can hear the distinct crossover at 6000 rpm.. whether you're actually going faster or not is another question :P BAHHHHH!!

[Fredoops]

You can hear the distinct crossover at 6000 rpm.. whether you're actually going faster or not is another question :P BAHHHHH!!
Lol and it's all over by 6800... How anti climatic :-p

[tony1234]

i hear the cheaper alternative the comptech icebox (ct engineering) is a better bang for your buck. All it really is is a redesigned stock airbox which supposably improves air flow and instead of a resonator theres a cold air duct pipe.
Ive read on tsx forums that the yanks do swear they notice a difference, not so much in sound though, but also is improved when the comptech icebox air filter is replaced with a k&n panel.

im thinking of doing this to my euro, we'll see. just a thought

I've had this for approx.3 yrs.Improved the low -mid range a bit.noise,about 10% louder than stock.It's worth doing.

[rodsta15]

Ive got one in my euro, pretty easy to install.

The sound is definately worth it :D

[Fredoops]

I've had this for approx.3 yrs.Improved the low -mid range a bit.noise,about 10% louder than stock.It's worth doing.

The yanks also suggest the CT makes more on the top end than the injen too.

[natnat]

it makes u feel like the car is going super fast (the noise only) in a tunnel while hitting vtec :)

add a fujitsubo catback, it will sound as fast as Yonas' EGK24A :p

the sound of the car travels faster than the car :D

nonetheless, it will increase your confidence!

[cheapdouchebag]

yeah theres not really muchyou can do to get a euro to go like stink huh? in terms of boltons that is. its pretty much almost at its peak as it is without having to compromising the luxury feel with racer noise. im about to approach the aspect to make my euro go like stink but i know ill need to cam out my bitch and invest $$$$$$$

[peterdep]

this wat i noticed in my DC2


BTW just adding CAI is illegal in (vic) car must have a BOXED air intake system


1. the benefits

more air suck
better high RPM (faster gain)
the sucking noise sounds coolo heheheh ^^
2. the downsides

raining days is HELL..... possiblity of sucking in water and GONE
also depending on ride height i guess

3. good or bad for fuel consumption or any differences

With my DC2 i had CAI injen and catback. i found it that a little more petral was used up.

4. if it is worth the money, and worth putting in your car

i would say yes, i loved mine. make it feel quicker/cooler to drive.............VTEC sound more ANIMAL


good luck and hope u get one :)


JDM-BOY

how do i make it legal, in other words how do i make it a boxed air intake system?

[Fredoops]

how do i make it legal, in other words how do i make it a boxed air intake system?

There is no point, if you do try and make the Injen a box intake. It will have be in SRI setup (like Aarong did years ago)... Then you might as well get a ct-e icebox. Because DIY box intake with SRI Injen is just tacky and it'll probably lose any gains you can make (as a CAI, and muffle the sound, so it'll just be a moot point.

[peterdep]

There is no point, if you do try and make the Injen a box intake. It will have be in SRI setup (like Aarong did years ago)... Then you might as well get a ct-e icebox. Because DIY box intake with SRI Injen is just tacky and it'll probably lose any gains you can make (as a CAI, and muffle the sound, so it'll just be a moot point.

so if cops catch you with an injen, ure fked?

[Fredoops]

If they find out is a defect notice and a fine I think (some one confirm this)

Also, if you guys get more of those freak storms or Floods you'll be stuck lol. Insurance companies don't like hydrolocked car because of CAI lol.

[white_ep3_civic]

I had an injen CAI on my ep3r and got pulled over by the cops. They got me open my bonnet and asked what was done. I told them about the intake and they asked where the filter was. I told him and he said no worries and I was on my way. So I'f say that they are legal. This was in sydney.

[Fredoops]

I had an injen CAI on my ep3r and got pulled over by the cops. They got me open my bonnet and asked what was done. I told them about the intake and they asked where the filter was. I told him and he said no worries and I was on my way. So I'f say that they are legal. This was in sydney.

I think Victoria is more nazi in comparison.

[white_ep3_civic]

Hmm depends if u have run into some of south western Sydney highway patrol. Some of those guys are pricks!

[BOSSCL9]

Can someone please post a link too where I can buy a comptech icebox preferably in Sydney.. Cheers :)

*edit* found this site.. http://www.autocarparts.com/part/143/11/
Is this a good price? Has anybody ordered from this site before?

[Fredoops]

Can someone please post a link too where I can buy a comptech icebox preferably in Sydney.. Cheers :)

*edit* found this site.. http://www.autocarparts.com/part/143/11/
Is this a good price? Has anybody ordered from this site before?
Try heeltoeauto, much more well known trader among the Honda/Acura community in the states, use TSXROCKS as a coupon to get some discount
http://www.heeltoeauto.com/Comptech-Icebox-Cold-Air-Box-04-TSX-330-155-pr-45315.html

[BOSSCL9]

Champion ^^^ :)

[white_ep3_civic]

I was lookin at that ice box design. I took the resinatOrs out of my car and ran a pipe to from of the car just like a cold air intake. If you replace the standard filter with a kn filter wouldn't it be similar effect?

[Fredoops]

I was lookin at that ice box design. I took the resinatOrs out of my car and ran a pipe to from of the car just like a cold air intake. If you replace the standard filter with a kn filter wouldn't it be similar effect?

Not really, CT has a larger and smooth box lid, with a HUGE velocity stack as the airhorn, and another velocity stack at the tip of the lid, so it stores more and and draws more air

[cheapdouchebag]

Not really, CT has a larger and smooth box lid, with a HUGE velocity stack as the airhorn, and another velocity stack at the tip of the lid, so it stores more and and draws more air

not to mention if u drop the k&n panel instead of using the ct foam filter, even more kicks from it.

[lefty]

I was lookin at that ice box design. I took the resinatOrs out of my car and ran a pipe to from of the car just like a cold air intake. If you replace the standard filter with a kn filter wouldn't it be similar effect?

totally. Don't buy into this branded CAI junk. DIY Bunnings spec, save yourself $200.
velocity stack = 90mm PVC pipe , heat gun the tip and press onto upturned bowl.

[Simonnn]

totally. Don't buy into this branded CAI junk. DIY Bunnings spec, save yourself $200.
velocity stack = 90mm PVC pipe , heat gun the tip and press onto upturned bowl.

I had that on my car before the injen, it's actually louder LOL. ghetto spec FTW

[kuyar11]

hey guys, when is it time to clean the filter on the INJEn CAI? 40k kms? and what do you use to clean it?

[marquee]

Im pretty sure all CAI's that are exposed (ie not in a closed airbox) are illegal. This is due to the oil that is coated on the filter to repel water may catch fire (which seams highly unlikly).

Now to combat this you can enclose it however will defeat the purpose of the CAI as it is now enclosed and all gains would be prevented.

Now this is what ive been thinking of doing for quite a while however will probz never do it because I'm to lazy.

Is buy a CAI and make an enclosure that connects to where the fog light holes are and basically is all enclosed except for the hole where direct airflow is comming in. Im pretty sure this would make it legal however would be fairly annoying to make and would require patience.

Also another intake whih is legal is the GruppeM intake. However for the gains, super expensive and not worth the cash.

[tonysalib]

totally. Don't buy into this branded CAI junk. DIY Bunnings spec, save yourself $200.
velocity stack = 90mm PVC pipe , heat gun the tip and press onto upturned bowl.

I second that. I did mine by droping in a K&N airfilter and then removing the resonator and mounting one of those pipes (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/COLD-AIR-INDUCTION-KIT-HONDA-CIVIC-EK-EK9-TYPE-R-INTAKE-/320677905560?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4aa9e48498)in place of it: one end to the airfilter box and the other to the (self ventilated :)) fog light cover, and I'm loving it. I feels its reving much smoother and screems hard at 6000rpm

[Fredoops]

CT engineering icebox is very similar to the GruppeM intake but at 1/10 th the cost..

[tony1234]

CT engineering icebox is very similar to the GruppeM intake but at 1/10 th the cost..

Icebox+K&N filter is best bang for buck intake.

[natnat]

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Also another intake whih is legal is the GruppeM intake. However for the gains, super expensive and not worth the cash.

i can only say the build quality of the GruppeM is really GOOD :)

the moulding of the carbon fibre is thick and solid.

i had my hand on an american built carbon fibre intake (Carbonio APR), although also pricey the carbon fibre is much thinner, a bit fragile and quality is far below compared to the Japanese made GruppeM.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2320/5749997087_3c9df5f746_b.jpg

[marquee]

i can only say the build quality of the GruppeM is really GOOD :)

the moulding of the carbon fibre is thick and solid.

i had my hand on an american built carbon fibre intake (Carbonio APR), although also pricey the carbon fibre is much thinner, a bit fragile and quality is far below compared to the Japanese made GruppeM.

I dont disagree with you but for the price you can buy headers

[Fredoops]

I dont disagree with you but for the price you can buy headers
For $1200 dollars I could get a PLM tri Y or Weapon r race header and weld a high flow cat on it AND have it fitted. And I probably still have money left over for the icebox.

[marquee]

For $1200 dollars I could get a PLM tri Y or Weapon r race header and weld a high flow cat on it AND have it fitted. And I probably still have money left over for the icebox.

Agreed. Not worth the money. Icebox is definatly worth it

[natnat]

fortunately i did not pay full retail on my GruppeM :D

i bought it second hand with 3000km of use, around $500 off the $1.2k landed price last year. but again, it was not for my CU2 though.. it's for the other car to complement the other bits and pieces to achieve an increase of 55hp power & 90nm of torque than the stock :D

i had Injen on my CL9 and now use K&N panel filter on my CU2.

[peterdep]

sorry im kind of lost guys, if i was to get the ct icebox and the k&n filter puts a little bit of oomph in the sound, where would i be able to get the k&n filter, and does it just replace the ct filter or soemthing? can someone please explain.

[tonysalib]

sorry im kind of lost guys, if i was to get the ct icebox and the k&n filter puts a little bit of oomph in the sound, where would i be able to get the k&n filter, and does it just replace the ct filter or soemthing? can someone please explain.

The CT Icebox only replaces the top part (cover) of your air filter box, not the bottom part where the air filter actually sits. The CT Icebox comes with a filter that fits directly in the bottom part but some say a K&N (which also fits directly into the bottom part) is better. Best place to get a K&N air filter is eBay.com (US) as even after you add shipping it still works out to like half the price it is sold here. Here is the link to the one I got (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/K-N-HighFlow-replacement-reusable-Air-Filter-33-2276-/390313546001?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5ae0801111)

[natnat]

...........Here is the link to the one I got (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/K-N-HighFlow-replacement-reusable-Air-Filter-33-2276-/390313546001?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5ae0801111)

that link is cheap! good find!

i paid AU$80 for mine last year...

[white_ep3_civic]

How does. The CT icebox give power gains just by replacing the top part of the stock air box?

[Fredoops]

How does. The CT icebox give power gains just by replacing the top part of the stock air box?

Bigger top box, and a LARGE velocity stack, and a unifoam filter, A combination of factors really.

[Symphorced]

Get GruppeM for +JDM points.

[tonysalib]

that link is cheap! good find!

And the strong Aussie dollar makes it even cheaper too.

[MingZai]

Just bought the InjenCAI for $300 so I can't wait to install it and show the differences between stock and aftermarket CAI as this is my first mod. But I am scared of it hydrolocking, is it that easy to hydrolock and what does it really do?

[natnat]

just drive carefully when it's raining and avoid any puddle of water.

the pod location on the bottom front left is just a bit prone to water exposure.

what does hydrolock do... i'm not sure as i've never had one, but it is definitely not a good thing for the engine :)

[MingZai]

Yeah, I used to love driving through puddles LOL yes childish but guess that days are over :p .Yeah had a bit of read and hydrolock just causes the engine to like die because of the water entering the air compression chamber place if I'm correct. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Or I could just not drive the car when it rains!

[natnat]

.......

Or I could just not drive the car when it rains!

honestly that's what i do when it rains heavily here in Sydney :p

[MingZai]

Yeah I can see you have a GTI, haha lucky for us to have other options when it rains. What year is the GTI?

[marquee]

It depends on a few things. But first you need to understand how the throttle body works. The more you rev the more the valve opens.

So when in rain drive like a nan because the more you put the pedal down the more air is getting sucked in through the intake and more chance of the engine being hydrolocked.

Now the euro is pretty good to us intake owners for a few reasons. We have a splash guard at the bottom of the car to prevent water going in to engine bay. Also if you have foglights or where the foglights go have covers that are clipped into the front bar this protects rain comming in the front.

So from my personal experiance I drive it all the time in the rain and my car is running perfectly but do avoid puddles but if you come across one just dont accellerate and the the intake is basically a pipe doing nothing and not sucking air in. There is oil on all airfilters which repels water however if iit is raining dont drive your car to harsh just to be safe

hope that helps mate

[MingZai]

Yeah Marquee thanks for the post, I've also read that you can get the hydrolock guards or water guards which is like a sock that covers the filter. But it is fairly expensive $80 including shipping :( . I have the Luxury model so it does have the fog lights so it does relieve me of driving the Euro when it rains haha.

[Symphorced]

Yeah Marquee thanks for the post, I've also read that you can get the hydrolock guards or water guards which is like a sock that covers the filter. But it is fairly expensive $80 including shipping :( . I have the Luxury model so it does have the fog lights so it does relieve me of driving the Euro when it rains haha.

$80 is relatively cheap compared to the costs you may incur if you hydrolock your engine...

[MingZai]

True but I was looking at the price in the USA which is like $40.. so yeah. How often do we have to change the filters btw??

[marquee]

to be honest i wouldnt bother. your car wont hydrolock unless euro driving through a deep puddle its not going to hydrolock when your driving in the run.

Avoid puddles and save 80 bucks

[natnat]

Yeah I can see you have a GTI, haha lucky for us to have other options when it rains. What year is the GTI?

it's a MY11 GTI....

also what i meant by not driving a car with CAI when it rains is when there's heavy rain and flash flooding :)

with Injen CAI the sucking noise is not too apparent.. and when you go vtec the pipe sound overwhelm all other sound from the engine bay.

with turbo cars, the sucking noise is louder when it comes on boost and in the GTI full torque is available from 1700rpm, so the vacuum cleaner noise is on when the engine is under load from 2000rpm :p

[MingZai]

OHHHH NICEEEE <3 Love the rabbits... why not the R :p .
Yeah I know haha but still the AWD on the GTI is perfect for rainy conditions anyway, probs more fun to drive, no?

Yeah, I'll probably make a DIY video and film the before and after effects! Can't wait to hear the VTEC passover at 6k.