Super noob q.. Redline

[dc2screama]

Iv seen heaps of stock integra vtir rev out to 7500+, where my teg doesn't rev out more than 6500. Is that normal at all?

[jeremydawg]

no... thats not normal. b18c2 redline at 8200rpm. Sure you dont have the non-vtec b18? lol.

[mugen_ctr]

off topic, but what system does honda employ for rev limiting? fuel cut, ignition cut etc etc..... was never sure lol

[dougie_504]

I think it's fuel cut

[TheSaint]

Iv seen heaps of stock integra vtir rev out to 7500+, where my teg doesn't rev out more than 6500. Is that normal at all?

do you have a VTIR or a GSI?
the VTIR should go to 8200rpm

make sure the car is warmed up - get to 2nd gear on a straight stretch and put ur foot all the way down until the car stops revving and the revs 'bounce' - than change gear
dont let it bounce for more than a few seconds - its not good for the engine - but you will know where the rev limit is set

[dc2screama]

Nah im 100% sure iv got a b18c2 engine, and my vtec works fine, l hear the crossover and extra power. I'm just not sure why it doesn't rev past 6500, the saint l tried that last week, but in first, and it didn't go past 6500 but l reached 65k, and it started bouncing so l stopped, what can be the problem guys...

[b_rent]

Has your car been tuned before or modified before (ie ECU)? My friend had this issue on his del sol, his b16a2 only rev'ed out to around 7000rpm max, but when we checked the ecu, it was running a civic Vti single cam vtec ecu. Just took it to dyno dave, got another ecu and tuned that to suit his b16. Not too sure if that helps, but probably worth checking the ecu if its been replaced anyway

[dc2screama]

Nah never been tuned or modified, only thing iv got on it is a k&n filter, il be having a look at the ecu after work, when looking at it how do l know if it's a stock ecu or not?

[b_rent]

Well in the case my friend had, Civic Vti Single Cam Vtec was labelled on the front haha
but i guess find out what stock vti-r integra ecu's are meant to be and if its different to the one you have in your car then could be a possibility its not running a stock ecu.. good luck man

[vinnY]

mate of mine had a similar problem with his ek4(fuel cut at 6500rpm), turns out the wiring harness was pretty hacked up from a previous vtec controller/vafc install but ran fine otherwise
took out the dodgy bits and soldered everything up nicely revs to 8200rpm no problems after

[androo]

Yeah that's not right. Even a GSi revs higher than 6500rpm.

[dc2screama]

I'm pretty sure l have a stock integra vtir ecu but il be double checking and posting photos of my ecu tonite to see if you guys no, vinny from what l no about my car, l might have that problem to, because on my windscreen you can see one of those suction holder marks on it like it had a vtec controller or gps who knows. And l no that some of the wiring in the engine bay have electrical tape on it and looks like it has been played with, dunno. il be taking a few photos to show you guys.
I just dont no much about the wiring and l don't wanna make things worse, where can l go?

[vinnY]

check the passenger kick panel where the ecu is, that's where most of those controllers are hacked into

[jeremydawg]

auto electrician will fix that up for you...if its the wiring thats causing the problem

[TheSaint]

i would take it to a mechanic or auto electrician that at least knows a little about hondas

even take it to a dealer perhaps - i know they charge more but at least you know they will troubleshoot the problem quickly and efficiently

something to check yourself is the wiring on the ecu plugs - its down to the left under the carpet on the passenger side - take off the ecu and just check that all the wiring is intact

[yenvy4]

Maybe you have a fuel problem? Have you ever changed the fuel filter? Check plugs as well..
How many kms has your car done?
Sounds like a fuel cut..
Whhere u located?

[dc2r-0636]

Dont want to add another alternative but, you said u can do 65kph in 1st ? How much does a dc2 usually do in 1st ? Your rev counter could be wrong. Vss issue possibly ?

[dc2screama]

Yenvy4 this has been happen for about a month, l service engine oil brake and clutch oil, new fuel filter, and ngk plugs, still didn't make a difference, but l don't think that the fuel filter had ever been changed. When l got the car it was 109k now it's sitting on 126k. I live in pascoe vale mate, l will be checking the ecu and the plugs to it after work

[ASSaZiN]

If your in the Sydney West Area take it to Dyno Dave, He Sorted My issue out in minutes, I had a Del Sol with Rev Limit at 7400. I can now rev out at 8400, plus its been tuned to the Mods I have on my Car for Maximum Performance

[dc2screama]

Yeah it reaches 65 in first dc2r but only revs out to 6500, which l thought was weird, my mates vtir can rev more then mine but it still hits 65. Which is normal...
Nah mate in from Melbourne thanks anyway

[Indie]

Dont want to add another alternative but, you said u can do 65kph in 1st ? How much does a dc2 usually do in 1st ? Your rev counter could be wrong. Vss issue possibly ?He said he hits 6500rpm, not 65km/h.

[vinnY]

^ actually, he does

Nah im 100% sure iv got a b18c2 engine, and my vtec works fine, l hear the crossover and extra power. I'm just not sure why it doesn't rev past 6500, the saint l tried that last week, but in first, and it didn't go past 6500 but l reached 65k, and it started bouncing so l stopped, what can be the problem guys…

65km/h in first at 6500rpm seems rather high

according to the mfactory gear ratio calculator (http://www.teammfactory.com/gearcalculator.php?kmh=1&tirewidth=195&tireprofile=55&wheelsize=15&tirediameter1=23.44&maxrpm1=8400&finaldrive1=4.4&gearratio1=3.23&gearratio2=1.9&gearratio3=1.36&gearratio4=1.034&gearratio5=0.787&gearratio6=0&trannytype=27&tranny=Calculate+Transmission+1&tirewidth2=195&tireprofile2=55&wheelsize2=15&tirediameter2=23.44&maxrpm2=8400&finaldrive2=4.4&gearratioa=3.23&gearratiob=2.105&gearratioc=1.458&gearratiod=1.107&gearratioe=0.848&gearratiof=0&trannytype=) it should be 66km/h@8400rpm with 195/55/15 tyres for a gsr(american equivalent of the vti-r)

so maybe the tacho is wrong?

[dc2screama]

If it is wrong how could that be fixed?
Iv found the problem, l did a diy on my stock cluster changed colours on the actual needle and pulled the needle out which wrecked the accurate reading that was on it, l only pulled the rev needle out.
How and who can fix it?

[DC2-PWR]

Yeah it reaches 65 in first dc2r but only revs out to 6500, which l thought was weird, my mates vtir can rev more then mine but it still hits 65. Which is normal...
Nah mate in from Melbourne thanks anyway

Can't be 65 in DC2R, my vtir with itr gearbox is like 59 or 60 on first.

I'd just get a new cluster.

[dc2screama]

Is there another way around it, l don't wanna be getting a new cluster that's all. Can't it be fixed?

[DC2-PWR]

Is there another way around it, l don't wanna be getting a new cluster that's all. Can't it be fixed?

It can be fixed, if your up paying for it. Which won't be worth it because it might stuff up again.

Theres a few stock VTiR clusters going for cheap, I remember waix had one, or V__ had a mugen DC2R cluster for cheap.

[dc2screama]

il have to see if they still have them. What about the kms on it,can they be changed to my original kms?

[dc2screama]

il have to see if they still have them,
Are the vtir and type r the same clusters? And how do l change the km on a different cluster to get it the same as my cluster atm?

[dc2r-0636]

He said he hits 6500rpm, not 65km/h.

erhhhh check before you post bud

[dc2r-0636]

and no theyre not the same cluster. everyone gets dc2r clusters anyway looks better :p
i dont think you can bring the kms back. but maybe u can i THINK there was a DIY on hondatech.. i saw something somwhere

[DC2-PWR]

il have to see if they still have them,
Are the vtir and type r the same clusters? And how do l change the km on a different cluster to get it the same as my cluster atm?

Like dc2r-0636 said it's not the same cluster, type r ones look waaay better. Easy as installation, no wiring or anything just plug it up and its in.

Nah just record your kms on the old cluster, and then do the math subtracting from new cluster kms. Dont stuff around with the kms just keep it legit.

[dc2screama]

il be looking for a new cluster now,if you no of anyone selling a cluster vtir or type r, preferably in Melbourne would be great to let me
No. Thanks for your help

[DC2-PWR]

PM this guy WAIX, negotiate with him and he'll work out a deal for you.
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?148200-SSR-MESH-4x100-EG-BC-PILLAR-EK-OEM-VISORS-SPOON-EXHAUSTS-RECARO

Good luck lad