[CL9] weapon r header

[y.vtech]

I have read on a few forums that this is a really good header performance wise but since it comes with a test pipe when you install it, you will have no cat which creates a bad smell.
But I'm just wondering, if you buy a high flow cat and take it to a exhaust shop to get it welded to the header, will it get rid of the bad smell that everyone complains about? your opinions would be a big help which I am considering on buying these headers but want a few pointers before I do. Thanks for your time!

[Fredoops]

I have read on a few forums that this is a really good header performance wise but since it comes with a test pipe when you install it, you will have no cat which creates a bad smell.
But I'm just wondering, if you buy a high flow cat and take it to a exhaust shop to get it welded to the header, will it get rid of the bad smell that everyone complains about? your opinions would be a big help which I am considering on buying these headers but want a few pointers before I do. Thanks for your time!

It's definately do-able. I was thinking about the same setup before I run outta cash.

Test pipe illegal on the road, something like a $10000 fine, soo what you do:
* Get the Weapon R header with the Test Pipe
* Take the test pipe to an exhaust shop,
* Get a high flow cat (metal cat, 200 cel + in my opinion, or it's too loud).
* Have the shop cut a section of the test pipe
* Replace that section with the CAT

However, before you commit on the Weapon-R, have a look at this from the US forum, this dude had a Weapon R and replaced it with a PLM Tri Y style (HYTECH style), I remember PLM being cheaper, however it'll involve more welding and cutting to fit the CAT and match up to your existing exhaust.
http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/1st-gen-engine/51346-plm-header-review.html

Either way, weapon-r or PLM, you are looking at some serious gains.

*EDIT*
PS: From what I've heard if you hookup WP-R header with CAT on existing exhaust i'll sound as quiet as stock. WP-R has a 2.5 inch collector at the end if that helps in getting a catback.

[hooyn]

i doubt you would get pulled over let alone defected for exhaust driving a euro.

[MingZai]

LOL so true ^

[Fredoops]

LOL so true ^

depend on what area you are in and what other mods you have....
If you have a loud Catback and SPOON stickers all over the car.... You're asking for it.


Besides, Cat converts carbon monoxide and nitrogen oxide into something less harmful, that rotten egg smell without cat isnt good for your health.

[y.vtech]

so at the end of the day, the cat would get rid of the smell?

[Fredoops]

so at the end of the day, the cat would get rid of the smell?

yes, the smell is either carbon monoxide or the nitro oxide, and cat converts them

BTW heres a review of the W-R header, and it's got some interesting info on some of the installation problems you might face
http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/1st-gen-engine/50988-weapon-r-race-headers-w-review.html

[SPQR]

i doubt you would get pulled over let alone defected for exhaust driving a euro.

Yeah because the cops think Euros are owned by old farts like me. And that the occasional 'child' driver is a son or daughter of the owner...lol

[npcan2]

The cat will 100% get rid of the smell..

I have the weapon r headers with a 200cel cat welded in. Good gains all round. VTEC is awesome now.

Weapon r headers + shipping - $600
welding + install - $250
high flow cat - $200

Also, you will need a defouler (extended bit of metal ~$15) for the secondary o2 sensor that plugs in after the cat. Otherwise your car may throw an error code due to the extra air flow.

oh, and the primary o2 sensor is facing the wrong way, so when they cut a piece out of the test pipe to weld in the cat, get the front section of the test pipe (which connects to the headers) rotated 180deg.

Apart from all those things, its a really good header. well build, good gains and cheapish! :D


Feel free to ask any questions..

[Fredoops]

Weapon r and custom high flow cat is very good.

Npcan9 do you have a catback installed with that setup?

[y.vtech]

Would a ct header and high flow cat have similar gains?

[MingZai]

npcan2 where did you get your parts for... so cheap as well?

[Fredoops]

Would a ct header and high flow cat have similar gains?
From what ive see on the other TSX forums, Weapond R give s more gains

[y.vtech]

npcan2 where did you get your parts for... so cheap as well?

www.heeltoeauto.com

[npcan2]

Weapon r and custom high flow cat is very good.
Npcan9 do you have a catback installed with that setup?
Agreed, very good setup! Yup, i have a fujitsubo legalis R.. great exhaust for the euro. simple superb note


Would a ct header and high flow cat have similar gains?
I had DC sport ebay copy headers before (topspeed), and I still gained ~14kw peak with the upgrade to weapon-r headers. The top speed headers had really good low/mid torque gains.


npcan2 where did you get your parts for... so cheap as well
I bought the weapon-r headers off ebay US, the cat off healtoe for $300, but i've seen new cat's go for $200. Theres one for sale in the forsale section here for $140 second hand. I got the headers welded and installed at Mr Muffler in Mitcham, Vic.

[vteccoupe]

anyone had problems with installing the WEAPONR header?

my mate bought one off ebay and he had to extend the runners as they are too short and its hitting the subframe. *might be for a k20?

@ y.vtech - did you buy ur header off heeltoe? any fitment issues?

[npcan2]

anyone had problems with installing the WEAPONR header?

my mate bought one off ebay and he had to extend the runners as they are too short and its hitting the subframe. *might be for a k20?


No extending required, but mine was missing a hanger tho.. no problems with that, just got a new one welded on.

[MingZai]

Hey npcan2 I've always wanted the Weapon R but changed my mind after hearing it doesn't have the CAT and stuff on it :(. I might be going back to that idea since it's running on yours :). Do you mind uploading a video of how it sounds and all? I'm planning to go Weapon R Header, (Not sure which Hi Flow Cat) and a Skunk 2 Exhaust. I'm in Melbourne too so I will probably go to the same place you went to in Mitcham as it seems they know what they are doing !

[Fredoops]

If you do happen to make a video/soundclip, post it here:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?149790-CL9-DIY-Exhaust-amp-Branded-Catback-sound-thread

[npcan2]

I tried taking a sound clip of it... but it never comes out the same.
Although, a mate of mine said "It sounds like a wrx crossed with jet", this made me pretty happy :D

[MingZai]

Hahahaha NICE, now imagine.... your setup with a Skunk2 exhaust...
Yeah will do fredroops.
Dammit whens the next Melbourne meet :(. My car is stock as hell need to start modding haha.
Has anyone got an injen cai and diy install? My one comes in a week or so!

[npcan2]

We need to do a Melbourne euro meet! Maybe in early July or something. I'll organise something.

Injen is easy to install, it comes with instructions. The hardest part is removing the resonator (instructions on ozhonda somewhere). It should take a few hours if you've never done it before.

My only suggestion is remove the bumper completely. It will make your life 100x easier, and it only take 4 bolts to remove :D

[MingZai]

Yes yes, but my car is complete stock.. so maybe I'll take the beemer out instead hahaha. People says it only takes 30mins to a hour and your saying it takes a few hours?? Ahh that sounds like me as I've never dared remove anything from the car lol. Yeah I already know how to take off the front bumper so that should be easy. Is removing the resonator mandatory? And sorry to sound like a complete noob but what does it do? I know the exhaust has some resonators but intake?

[Fredoops]

Yes yes, but my car is complete stock.. so maybe I'll take the beemer out instead hahaha. People says it only takes 30mins to a hour and your saying it takes a few hours?? Ahh that sounds like me as I've never dared remove anything from the car lol. Yeah I already know how to take off the front bumper so that should be easy. Is removing the resonator mandatory? And sorry to sound like a complete noob but what does it do? I know the exhaust has some resonators but intake?

Resonator is a part of the stock airbox intake, if if you put the injen in. The Resonator goes out.

[y.vtech]

@ y.vtech - did you buy ur header off heeltoe? any fitment issues?

i havn't bought it yet. im seeing if marcus ( the owner of heeltoeauto ) can weld in a fastline performance high flow cat to the header before i purchase them, saves me from running up and down.

[vteccoupe]

true, sounds good. Lookin at getting a set, can u let me know how much he charged all up to weld up the high flow cat + header?

please pm if possible :) thanks

[Fredoops]

Nah post the Price here so everyone can see lol!

[MingZai]

^ as I was planning with that setup all along :p

[y.vtech]

Weapon r header and high flow cat comes soon, I'll let you guys know how it goes ( fitment, sound, power )

[MingZai]

From heeltoe yeah?? Did Marcus tell you if he can wield them for you?

[y.vtech]

Yeah purchasing it from heel toe. He said he can but it would be difficult with outt having the car there. He would have to create a jig which would be time consuming and more expensive. Better off just going to your local exhaust shop. By the way sorry I didn't reply to your pm, slipped my mind.

[vteccoupe]

nice, let us know how it goes, fitment etc.

[rodsta15]

someone should have organised a group buy :)

[vteccoupe]

count me in if theres 1 :)

[y.vtech]

We can do a group buy, if there's enough of us :)

[MingZai]

but too bad you already have bought it :(

I'll buy it once I source my Skunk2 exhaust but we are all in different states LOL. WA, NSW , VIC :P

[y.vtech]

I actually just got refunded the other day, just want to buy rims first till I can figure out what exhaust system I should get, most preferably skunk2 :)

[Fredoops]

Add Qld to the list, if there's a group buy I'll put the ecu thingy on hold lol

[tony1234]

Decent headers give you the most power gains on a Euro.Anything else just supplements it.

[y.vtech]

Even if we were to do a group buy, how would we do it

[Fredoops]

Contact Marcus and he can set
Something up. Only thing tho. K24 would actually benefit most from a header with a large collector, that's probably why hytech us soo good cause the headers huge.

[y.vtech]

Anyone going to contact marcus orrrr? How much is the hytech

[Fredoops]

Hytech? 3mth waiting list and $2000+ lol...

Alternatively there's the PLM tri- header Whig is very simile to the hytech, for about $600.

[dee-y]

a group buy on a catback would interest me!

[MingZai]

Certainly getting Weapon R Header!

[rodsta15]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ACURA-TSX-TRI-Y-RACE-HEADER-K24-PLM-HYTECH-CT-COMPTECH-/250779738552?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a63a321b8

these any good?

[Fredoops]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ACURA-TSX-TRI-Y-RACE-HEADER-K24-PLM-HYTECH-CT-COMPTECH-/250779738552?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a63a321b8

these any good?

Here's a review... This is basically a hytech header. http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/1st-gen-engine/51346-plm-header-review.html

[rodsta15]

Weapon-R or the PLM header? im looking to get one very soon, any suggestions?

[Fredoops]

Weapon-R, more expansive, more well know brand.
PLM, HYTECH design, more substiantial, but harder to fit a cat, cheaper.

[wuism]

Just buy Toda.....

U could try asp if u want...

[Fredoops]

If you are willing to cut into the stock/manufactured cat back to fit a cat then I'd go for a hytech design (which is the PLM) over the Toda. More bang for your buck. It seems that hytech is all the rage in the TSX scene right now over in the States.

[aaronng]

Here's a review... This is basically a hytech header. http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/1st-gen-engine/51346-plm-header-review.html

From that review, the Hytech doesn't give you space to install a cat and you lose some mid range for very little top end when compared to WeaponR. Based on that dyno, I'd pick WeaponR because I get to keep the cat on, avoid CEL and pass pink slip inspection every year (NSW).

In the end, the Hytech is a race header and if you had an engine that would rev to over 8500rpm, then only would you see the power gains at the top end. On the K24A3 engine, the RPM limit at 7300rpm is just too low to get into the RPM window where the gains are.

[shmivic]

Just buy Toda.....


+1800880099968575

[marquee]

I have a JTune Exhaust and it works flawlessly you can't even hear it unless u give it a little squirt

[y.vtech]

you have to weld a cat to the weapon r's straight pipe. I can't be bothered with the hassle so I might just get the comptech or xforce. What do u guys rekon about the x force header?

[tony1234]

you have to weld a cat to the weapon r's straight pipe. I can't be bothered with the hassle so I might just get the comptech or xforce. What do u guys rekon about the x force header?

Get the Comptech With our $ as strong as it is it's a bargain now.Approx.$600 shipped

[vteccoupe]

just ordered some weaponR, would see how it goes

[wuism]

Maxim works is another header...

[Fredoops]

you have to weld a cat to the weapon r's straight pipe. I can't be bothered with the hassle so I might just get the comptech or xforce. What do u guys rekon about the x force header?

Xforce = OBX = DC sports.

Go for the cheapest of the three I recken

[wuism]

I have x force header if someone wants.... Or so I think it is... 2 piece, bolts to stock cat...

[MingZai]

What's the main differences between the Toda and Weapon R header? Would TODA provide more gains? But then I know it's not the best bang for buck lol

[shmivic]

This has been discussed many MANY times before online on various forums/websites.

Weapon R and Toda are completely different headers and shouldn't even be compared.

[markJDM]

Just ordered PLM headers and this will be my first engine mod. No intake or exhaust to be installed. Only the PLM header :thumbsup:

Hopefully the dyno should be able to say if this headers are any good

[Fredoops]

You had to modify the exhaust system for the PLM header cause you got no place for a cat converter. Else you risks $10000 fine if the five-o find out

[markJDM]

You had to modify the exhaust system for the PLM header cause you got no place for a cat converter. Else you risks $10000 fine if the five-o find out

Yep, will probably end up shortening the stock exhaust to get the high flow cat in there

[MingZai]

All you need to do is weld cat and testpipe together :)

[Fredoops]

All you need to do is weld cat and testpipe together :)

The PLM/Hytech testpipe is 25-30 cm long, not enough space

[MingZai]

can't you cut the testpipe into 3 parts and replace the middle one with the CAT.... I'll show you what my one looks like..

[Fredoops]

can't you cut the testpipe into 3 parts and replace the middle one with the CAT.... I'll show you what my one looks like..
thats what he intended to do, but as i said earlier, the PLM/Hytech header is 40% longer than the Wp-R, there is no space to fit a cat without cutting into the catback

[markJDM]

thats what he intended to do, but as i said earlier, the PLM/Hytech header is 40% longer than the Wp-R, there is no space to fit a cat without cutting into the catback

Yep fredoops right, the test pipe of plm is very short so i cant fit a high flow cat in there. I was deciding between a weapon r and the plm just because of this issue. But the price difference between the 2 was about $300. I decided modding the catback will be cheaper and gains are about the same between weaponr and plm.

[Fredoops]

Yep fredoops right, the test pipe of plm is very short so i cant fit a high flow cat in there. I was deciding between a weapon r and the plm just because of this issue. But the price difference between the 2 was about $300. I decided modding the catback will be cheaper and gains are about the same between weaponr and plm.

PLM looks more HYTTECH BIIITTTCCCCHHH!!!!

if you know what I mean.

[markJDM]

can't you cut the testpipe into 3 parts and replace the middle one with the CAT.... I'll show you what my one looks like..

Yep I am planning to put the HFC on the test pipe but look at the picture below. (Courtesy of TSX club)
PLM Review LINK > http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/1st-gen-engine/51346-plm-header-review.html

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6648/img4303e.jpg


PLM looks more HYTTECH BIIITTTCCCCHHH!!!!

if you know what I mean.

PLM = SEXY!

[BraXta]

Soooo pretty much after reading all this....

If i get a wpn r header... i just cut the test pipe... join them together with the Hi flow cat ... say a Feels Hi flow Cat (http://www.heeltoeauto.com/FEEL-s-Hondatwincam-Metal-Cat-Honda-Accord-2.0L-03-08-CL7-EuroR-Fits-2-bolt-JDM-header-only-feels_metalcat_cl7-pr-63163.html) then it should all just bold in together and be happy.... because welding for me isnt a issue my brother is a boiler maker and has all the tool needed lol

[Fredoops]

Pretty much.

[BraXta]

cool .... *ticks box to the wishlist for a Wpn R header and Hi flow cat *

=D

[MingZai]

Haha I'll take a photo of what it looks like sometime this afternoon :)

[y.vtech]

Please get the photo up. I just purchased the wr headers and flp hi flow cat. Still confused on how to weld it.

[MingZai]

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?152401-My-CL9-BUILD-Carly-%28Pge-3-for-Picture-of-Bumper-Update%29&p=3086542&viewfull=1#post3086542
Up :)

[vteccoupe]

whr did u guys order your weaponR from?

i ordered mine from heeltoe together with a gearknob and guess wad? 1.5mths wait for header due to backorder*apparently from Marcus i shld haf check stock before buying and 2mths wait for a gearknob.

Just a heads up to anyone who cant wait for few mths for some bits and pieces.

[shmivic]

Feel that pain Vinno, 6 month wait for my header

[Fredoops]

get a PLM instead and just cut into the stock catback lol

[vteccoupe]

toda is worth the wait bro :)

[shmivic]

I guess, pm me if you want header fitted too Vinno

[vteccoupe]

simon i got it fitted, all good now

[rodsta15]

any dramas? hows it feel?

[vteccoupe]

feels good, obviously with S/S header u get the hissing sound when u accelerating.

[MingZai]

what's a s/s header?

[vteccoupe]

S t a i n l e s s s t e e l f f s

[vteccoupe]

its actually pretty loud when WOT with weaponR n test pipe.

Cold start idle is pretty loud as well - bear in mind i have my 2nd resonator on my catback deleted.

[MingZai]

lol I can't really tell the difference apart from the hissing but I'm still using stock exhaust

[rodsta15]

hey guys, just stumbled across a set of xforce ss headers for the cl9. they look very similar to the weapon r, anybody know the difference?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Xforce-SS-4-2-1-Headers-Honda-Accord-Euro-CL9-k24-DOHC-Vtec-/220877915413?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item336d598515

[Fredoops]

They are not similar to weapon-r at all. What you are looking at are DC sports header copy.

Xforce = OBX which are similar to the Top Speed headers which are just the stainless steel versions of DC sports headers.

Also lol@$599 price tag.... You can get a comptech header from JDM yard for $50 more, which is a much better made header

[Thor]

Hey guys looking into getting the weapon-r headers myself... just not too sure on cat was looking into this... would it be suitable and a straight forward cut/weld/install job?

http://www.heeltoeauto.com/fastline-performance-2.5-racing-open-track-pipe-03-08-acura-tsx-accord-type-s-2.4l-cl9.html

[Fredoops]

Hey guys looking into getting the weapon-r headers myself... just not too sure on cat was looking into this... would it be suitable and a straight forward cut/weld/install job?

http://www.heeltoeauto.com/fastline-performance-2.5-racing-open-track-pipe-03-08-acura-tsx-accord-type-s-2.4l-cl9.html

MingZai has his for sale.... with cat already welded.

[MingZai]

LOL falseadvertising fredoops :P gotta love u man Haha Removed that from sale ages ages ago :p
Couldn't be bothered modifying my subframe for the J's Racing Header so stuck with the Weapon R... the last piece of USDM equipment on my car :D

[Thor]

well whats a reasonably good hi flow cat but not too expensive that goes well with the weapon r header?

[MingZai]

Hey Thor what they have on heeltoeauto would be good enough :) What mods do you currently have? Sorry just replying here instead of PM so more people can have access to this information :P

[Thor]

just the skunk 2 and some wheels! looking into an injen cai soon (might take it off your hands...)

so even the cheaper options with the cats http://www.heeltoeauto.com/fastline-performance-2.5-racing-open-track-pipe-03-08-acura-tsx-accord-type-s-2.4l-cl9.html

might even get a custom one made up...

[Fredoops]

just the skunk 2 and some wheels! looking into an injen cai soon (might take it off your hands...)

so even the cheaper options with the cats http://www.heeltoeauto.com/fastline-performance-2.5-racing-open-track-pipe-03-08-acura-tsx-accord-type-s-2.4l-cl9.html

might even get a custom one made up...

go the cheapest.... just try to get more than 200 cells.... else it's gonna be too loud coupled with skunk 2....

[cris]

hey guys i just read through the thread and im looking at getting a set of these weapon r headers as they sound like they are what im after. so from what i gather, i can install the headers and cat and still use stock cat back part of the exhaust system?

also, with the sound difference, under normal driving conditions, its still reasonably quiet untill you give it some? thanks

[MingZai]

no sound difference buddy :) !

[Fredoops]

hey guys i just read through the thread and im looking at getting a set of these weapon r headers as they sound like they are what im after. so from what i gather, i can install the headers and cat and still use stock cat back part of the exhaust system?

also, with the sound difference, under normal driving conditions, its still reasonably quiet untill you give it some? thanks

Yes you can use stock cat... but you'd be missing out on a lot of power.
If you have the pre-facelift euro, then it's got a 900 cell cat converter, it's a major power sump.

As to noise, my car actually was quieter with the Intake and Header/250 cel cat.... probably due to the lower restrictions.

[cris]

oh yea id deffinatly be changing the cat. sounds good. thanks guys. cant wait to order it and get it installed now

[Fredoops]

oh yea id deffinatly be changing the cat. sounds good. thanks guys. cant wait to order it and get it installed now

Before you do

a Vendor here sells PLM header for euro
it's a Hytech clone, you might wanna check that out.

[MingZai]

boo to copies and clones!

[Fredoops]

boo to copies and clones!
Hmm... Pretty sure the WP-r is just a cl9 adopted J's..

[MingZai]

ADOPTED :p not copies or clones hehehehee

[Fredoops]

ADOPTED :p not copies or clones hehehehee
http://smileyti.me/wp-content/uploads/jackie-chan-meme-facebook-chat.jpg

[aaronng]

ADOPTED :p not copies or clones hehehehee

By your definition, the dodgy ebay china copy DC Sports header is also an adoption since it uses 304SS instead of coated mild steel. :p

[cris]

has anyone here used Xforce headers on their cl9 as they are localy sold? if you have what are your thoughts. just pm me so i dont hijack this weapon r thread.

thanks

[ChaosMaster]

PLM vs Weapon R. Pros and Cons? The face Lifted CL9 run 500 cell cats don't they?

[Fredoops]

PLM vs Weapon R. Pros and Cons? The face Lifted CL9 run 500 cell cats don't they?

PLM review against someone who had Weapon R
www.tsxclub.com/forums/1st-gen-engine/51346-plm-header-review.html

Problem with PLM is that to fit a cat with PLM you'll need to have the stock cat-back cut back 30cm or something.

[MingZai]

So I think Weapon R is still the way to go :p and no the stock cat has like 900 cells I believe

[Fredoops]

So I think Weapon R is still the way to go :p and no the stock cat has like 900 cells I believe

Pre facelift: 900 cell
Post facelift: 400 cell



has anyone here used Xforce headers on their cl9 as they are localy sold? if you have what are your thoughts. just pm me so i dont hijack this weapon r thread.

thanks

Xforce header is identical to the cheap OBX headers seen on eBay.. Hell they even use the same marketing photos, I'm pretty sure they are both made by the same contract manufacturer in China.

They are both DC-Sport (an AEM company) ripoffs. So unless you can get them cheap (as in similar to OBX prices..) don't bother

[cris]

Xforce header is identical to the cheap OBX headers seen on eBay.. Hell they even use the same marketing photos, I'm pretty sure they are both made by the same contract manufacturer in China.

They are both DC-Sport (an AEM company) ripoffs. So unless you can get them cheap (as in similar to OBX prices..) don't bother

ahhhh righto. yea i called my exhaust shop and they said the ones they can get are xforce and will cost $595 but id be getting a discout tho. it just seems that zorst shops can only track down xforce and no others to suit the cl9s

[Fredoops]

ahhhh righto. yea i called my exhaust shop and they said the ones they can get are xforce and will cost $595 but id be getting a discout tho. it just seems that zorst shops can only track down xforce and no others to suit the cl9s
An OBX CL9 header is $199+shipping

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?161360-BYP-Racing-and-Developments-PLM-Headers-K-B-H-and-X-bar!-Pre-order-Special
^^^they sell PLM race headers for $500
but you'll need to get a CAT and cut back a bit of the stock catback to fit.
Still that'll make more HP than the Xforce... a lot more.

Also, dont be afraid to shop online.

[mrgu]

So I think Weapon R is still the way to go :p and no the stock cat has like 900 cells I believe


+1 I have read npcan2 's progress thread. Weapon are certainly > DC

[aaronng]

An OBX CL9 header is $199+shipping


Also factor in an additional $100 to replace the flex pipe which WILL crack within 6 months.

[Fredoops]

Also factor in an additional $100 to replace the flex pipe which WILL crack within 6 months.

yeah that too
lol i got my DC second hand with the flex pipe already replaced with double braided one's

[ChaosMaster]

So wait, Toda, WPR and PLM will all require either work to the subframe or a cut/new CAT?

[Fredoops]

So wait, Toda, WPR and PLM will all require either work to the subframe or a cut/new CAT?
not sure about the subframe.... thats more J's

WPR/PLM both needs cut/weld to fit a car
but PLM will need an extra cut/weld to the factory catback (cause it's much longer than WPR)

[Raptor90]

So wait, Toda, WPR and PLM will all require either work to the subframe or a cut/new CAT?

dont think you need to do anything to the subframe but you will need to get a new cat because toda and wpr come with a test pipe
but not sure about plm what you can do take ur test pipe to an exhaust shop they can cut it in half and weld on a cat for you
to fit

[ChaosMaster]

Gah, means more in Labour cost I guess. Thanks for the info guys.

[ChaosMaster]

Damn, the Toda looks expensive. For head and Cat. How noisy are they though? I don't want something noisy at idle or low down. I do want improved low down power though, the K24 is really lacking.

[Fredoops]

Damn, the Toda looks expensive. For head and Cat. How noisy are they though? I don't want something noisy at idle or low down. I do want improved low down power though, the K24 is really lacking.

If you keep the factory catback and dont go crazy on the high flow cat, it's not noise at all, stock like in fact.

[ChaosMaster]

If you keep the factory catback and dont go crazy on the high flow cat, it's not noise at all, stock like in fact.

But then would I still get any gains?

[Fredoops]

But then would I still get any gains?
As a reference, I have a 250 cel cat.

And it's really quiet. Like stock.

Hope this helps.

[mrgu]

Hey Fred I need ur opinion on feels header..does it require work like wpn r?? Weld on to a test pipe or...

[Fredoops]

Feels header is like MaxiamWorks header.

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BLOOOODDYYYY Expansive

[dinoc]

Hi guys,

I have a facelift CL9 ,2007 and I'm interested in changing the headers as well.

I can go cat-less I don't mind, but I'm looking for a quite setup, I'll have the Hondata ECU reflash, Comptech Icebox intake and stock catback.
I'm just looking for some good headers not so expensive like Toda are, but to be quiet.

For what I could read here the PLM and WR are both cat-less which is fine, I just want to know which will be ok for what I want .
Our should I look for something else ?

[euro1603]

what is the diameter of the test pipe on the weapon r.. ? just adding up the cost of the potential install.. Magnaflow flow cat 170 + weapon r header 600 + welding $200.. its a grand..

[Fredoops]

what is the diameter of the test pipe on the weapon r.. ? just adding up the cost of the potential install.. Magnaflow flow cat 170 + weapon r header 600 + welding $200.. its a grand..

There's a few people selling second hand WPR setups, have a look at our trade section and firesport