Up-grading brakes on a DC2R, DS200 VS EBC RED/ RDA VS DBA 4000

[u mad?]

Hey guys, i need to change the rotors/pads on the teg as the current one wont pass roadworthy (rotors warped and worn down), thought i might as well up grade while im at it as the brake fade with the current setup isn't exactly confidence inspiring LOL.


What I am considering is DS2500 and EBC RED stuff for front pads but for the rears im undecided on whether i should just replace with oem or go aftermarket?

As for the rotors, up front im considering RDA slotted rotors and DBA 4000 slotted rotors. Same story as per the pads for the rears- is it worth going after market rotors or just replacing with oem? Also, are the DBA 4000's worth the extra coinage over the RDA's?

Car already has braided lines so i won't have to touch that area of the brakes.

The car is mainly be used for spirited drives on the mountain and hopefully will see the track in the near future, its also my daily at this point.

Any input greatly appreciated.


PS- if you have any other suggestions on different pads/rotors to go with, please share!

[babiiiiiiiiiii]

If its go with roadworthy guess i would just go for a roadworthy one which dba is very slotted and with endless pad combo is pretty awesome man , however you can go drilled cross one as well but they arent as good as then slotted one , and put in mind man , they are not suit or good for track !!!!

[babiiiiiiiiiii]

p.s if you looking for track and street combine , you will need to spend a bit more on (AP Racing) FS Rotors or endless

[90LAN]

endless sss pads

[u mad?]

i ended up going with dba4000 with ds2500 up front

oem rear

[DCZ 18C]

feel much different bro..?

[u mad?]

still waiting for them to arrive lol

will update thread when i've given them a beating.


hopefully the pads don't catch on fire like the oem ones did lol!

[DCZ 18C]

you using a brake master cylinder stopper bro.?

[u mad?]

nah man, haven't looked into them tbh.

[DCZ 18C]

fair enough... was thinking of buying one of those soon .. like the cusco one....
wanted to get some oppinions on them.. :)

[liberx]

DS2500 are great, I swear by them for track and OK on road with a bit of heat in them. Can be a bit dusty, but won't give up on you and that's way more important. Also have DBA 4000 on front - no complaints thus far. Rears OEM (or OEM replacement) is fine - I think you've spent money wisely where it counts.

[u mad?]

^Thats great to here mate, but how bad are they cold? not unsafe are they? from the research i've done it seems they are mediocre when cold. can you describe the cold bite of the pad?

[liberx]

No, not unsafe - just don't feel as effective - mediocre is a good description. After first few stops they're fine. IE take it easy first thing in the morning. These will be impossible to get fade on the road.

I haven't had any other pads of the same ilk to compare (only some Pagid hi po street pads that faded on track after 2 laps). Once you find something that fits the bill (a pretty big bill), you tend to stick with it.

[tseesinngwailo]

Seeing as DBA are twice the cost of the RDA, whats the real difference, I will be upgrading my DC2R for the Honda day at Wakefield in October, but dont want new discs to find they only last a trackday, and would it be worth getting track pads (Ferodo or similar) for the day, and EBC green/red for daily driving?

[liberx]

Not sure how hard Wakefield is on brakes (never had the pleasure...), but on track brakes always get hammered in a way that just can't happen on the road.

While I have never run RDA, they have a good rep. However I would only replace DC2R rotors if the OEMs are stuffed (need replacing anyway). OEM DC2R rotors are excellent (size, and material). Slotted RDAs or DBAs are an economical replacement - not an upgrade necessarily (DBA4000 series might be an upgrade though). The slots? Strictly not required when using modern track grade pads. They don't expel gases like older/lower grade pads.

Whether quality rotors last or not is really down to the pads used. Ferodo DS2500 I've used for a while work well both track and street. Yes, you can have daily and street pads if you want - but seems a hassle. DC2R brakes are so good to start with, decent pads (and fluid - RBF600) means you should be able to get brilliant brakes road and track with the right setup.

[u mad?]

thanks for your input mate^


Im going with RBF600 for brake fluid. How much will i need for a dc2r? i noticed its about 35 bucks for half a liter so im hoping i don't need too much lol.

[chargeR]

thanks for your input mate^


Im going with RBF600 for brake fluid. How much will i need for a dc2r? i noticed its about 35 bucks for half a liter so im hoping i don't need too much lol.

I would get 2 bottles, 1L, to flush it out to make sure you get most of the old fluid out.

[anzai]

umad bro? give us update on dba4000 as im thinking to replace mine too

might get ferodo pads with it...

[u mad?]

umad bro? give us update on dba4000 as im thinking to replace mine too

might get ferodo pads with it...
mate i've only driven on the street with these pads and rotors so far and im already happy with them.

very strong bit even at high speeds.

would recommend.

daily driving only requires the smallest pressure applied to the brake pedal for them to bite.

yes there is a decent amount of brake dust and they do have a slight sqeel (though nothing annoying) but worth it for the feel you gain