dc2r wheel rubbing

[anzai]

hey guys

ive got an issue with rubbing on my front wheels on my dc2r, the car is lowered quite a bit and under the front wheel arch there is this metal bit that protrudes right down and its been slicing thru my tyres quite badly...

i know that one contributing factor is that im running 205/50r16 and the profile might have slightly caused the rubbing, but still.

im sure most of you here who has a slammed dc2r would know about this and im just wondering what most people do to fix this issue, is it possible to 'roll' this metal bit to flatten it to the chassis?

cheers

[Bludger]

pictures.

Or just remove what is rubbing

or just raise your car.

Even in your sig it says function over form

[Indie]

Haha, yes. Function over form indeed.

[babiiiiiiiiiii]

try to raise it up a bit i had the same bit before but that was when the car too low , so raise a bit higher up then the issues gone

p.s i was with 195/60/r16

[dc2r-0636]

egour i got the same issue lol

i put in 3mm spacers at the front and back, it has help heaps. 195/55/15

[Mikecivic78]

Function over form indeed. Going over 2" drop is going over the ideal ride height for you car.

Low car + form. Decent suspension setup that isn't overly low is best for function.

What suspension r u running??

[anzai]

when i said its lowered quite a bit its not ridiculously low

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8340/itr200vig.jpg

http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/1343/img42622.jpg

im running bc coilovers, 6k/4k, i figured it could also be caused by the low spring rate... but ive set the damper to the maximum and its still rubbing =\

[Bludger]

whats your wheel spec?

[Mikecivic78]

nice looking DC2R. Your cars ride height looks ok, but you look 'lifted', due to having a too high profile a tyre.
low spring rates can effect it too.

[DLO01]

It it the metal tab that your inner guard is clip ed on to? If so bend the tab up. I'm guessing you've taken the inner guards out?

[anzai]

whats your wheel spec?

wheel is jdm 16'', so 16x7 +50 i believe?


nice looking DC2R. Your cars ride height looks ok, but you look 'lifted', due to having a too high profile a tyre.
low spring rates can effect it too.

thanks mate..the 50% of 205 is supposedly the right profile to match the stock 195/55r15 rolling diameter, according to 2 tyre shops... they came with the car though, although i'd prefer 205/45r16 .

but yea with the low spring rates the car does bounce around quite a bit.. it rubs a lot when the car starts bouncing...


It it the metal tab that your inner guard is clip ed on to? If so bend the tab up. I'm guessing you've taken the inner guards out?

i dont think the black inner guard thingy is clipped on to the metal bit, are you talking about the edge of the fender for when you want to 'roll the guards'?

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3195/metalthingy.jpg

i dont know if its clear enough but this is an illustration... the red bit on the tyre is where the metal bit is slicing it through.. its right dead centre.. so if you look through the fender from the side, the dotted line is where this metal bit protudes downwards from the chassis..

this metal bit has even sliced through the black guard lining and hence through my wheel...

[MWAKU]

offtopic, but ur car looks heaps good

[Bludger]

ok, after the drawings, I have come to the conclusion your suspension is too soft.

rather than cut a perfectly good dc2r. you should get stiffer springs and match it to good shocks

[DLO01]

Or raise the dam thing, so you don't bust a tyre and take you and someone else out.

[riruiz_88]

i was quite sure the jdm dc2r ran 215/45/16....

[DLO01]

^^^ yes. Thats part of his problem. Hes low, but not that low. And his higher tyres are not helping being taller.

He either needs to get stronger rated springs, lower profile tyres or raise the height. Or a combination. Either way he needs to get is sorted, cause its a major safety issue.

[dc2r-0636]

wait does it rub all the time ? or when your on full lock ? i thought u were talking bout full lock.

go to henry bro, and get harder springs. i got 9k and 6k rear. also BC

[anzai]

offtopic, but ur car looks heaps good

lol thanks brother

[anzai]

yep it is dangerous, thats why i want to get it sorted... i was just wondering if anyone has tried flattening that metal bit before i get stiffer springs and tyres as cash is n/a atm..

[DC2-PWR]

yep it is dangerous, thats why i want to get it sorted... i was just wondering if anyone has tried flattening that metal bit before i get stiffer springs and tyres as cash is n/a atm..

Nah leave as is, that part of structure is to keep the body attached. Weaken that and you body structure will be weak. Have a look at it closely and you can see how much of an effort it took to weld that pieace up.

Just save up for stiffer springs and take caution of the issue. It's not that much of a big issue, unless your driving 10kmphr and it rubs badly. If it scrapes over 80km or 90km then you'll be safe. Because majority of our roads are either 60km, 70km, and highway 110 but has smooth roads/less bumps.

Other than that you have one damn clean looking DC2R

[anzai]

^^^ yes. Thats part of his problem. Hes low, but not that low. And his higher tyres are not helping being taller.

He either needs to get stronger rated springs, lower profile tyres or raise the height. Or a combination. Either way he needs to get is sorted, cause its a major safety issue.

in regards to the springs, would it be possible to adjust the preload to compress the springs more, hence making the springs stiffer? or is the only way to change the spring rate is to buy a new set of stiffer rated springs?



Nah leave as is, that part of structure is to keep the body attached. Weaken that and you body structure will be weak. Have a look at it closely and you can see how much of an effort it took to weld that pieace up.

Just save up for stiffer springs and take caution of the issue. It's not that much of a big issue, unless your driving 10kmphr and it rubs badly. If it scrapes over 80km or 90km then you'll be safe. Because majority of our roads are either 60km, 70km, and highway 110 but has smooth roads/less bumps.

Other than that you have one damn clean looking DC2R

thanks mate.. i wont touch the chassis :)

[mnc]

All the dc2/r owners have that problem when driving at a lowered height. Not enough suspension travel so it just has to hit somewhere.

If you want to keep that height I would suggest stiffer suspension and 205-215/45/16. Otherwise your only sulotion on running that softer setup and tires will be raising your car up (to avoid scrubbing)

[Bludger]

It's not that much of a big issue,
DUDE!!!!!!
Are you for real?

sure driving along on smooth roads is going to be no problem. All it takes is one big pothole or bump and the tire is cut up, lose control and major accident.

Some people are willing to take more risks than others I guess.

But yeaH, my point is it only takes 1 second twist of fate.

[anzai]

All the dc2/r owners have that problem when driving at a lowered height. Not enough suspension travel so it just has to hit somewhere.

If you want to keep that height I would suggest stiffer suspension and 205-215/45/16. Otherwise your only sulotion on running that softer setup and tires will be raising your car up (to avoid scrubbing)

i think ill do both, maybe raise it a bit just for a peace of mind.


DUDE!!!!!!
Are you for real?

sure driving along on smooth roads is going to be no problem. All it takes is one big pothole or bump and the tire is cut up, lose control and major accident.

Some people are willing to take more risks than others I guess.

But yeaH, my point is it only takes 1 second twist of fate.

fully agree with bludger here, i've been driving like a grandma for the past week, dont want to take my chances. once exams are over i'll go and fix it

[Bludger]

in regards to the springs, would it be possible to adjust the preload to compress the springs more, hence making the springs stiffer? or is the only way to change the spring rate is to buy a new set of stiffer rated springs?
Sure it's possible. I guess it would be more stiffer, but its one of those how long is a piece of string questions. No one, not even 10 green block Deano can answer that for you.
Why don't you try it......
Compress your springs, drive over a massive bump to test out your theory. good luck.




thanks mate.. i wont touch the chassis :)thank god. And to think you were willing to **** up that beautiful example of a lovely DC2R.
Not only that, you'll never be able to sell it again because you pretty much have told the whole Honda community about how you were willing to **** up your car over this forum.

All the dc2/r owners have that problem when driving at a lowered height. Not enough suspension travel so it just has to hit somewhere.

If you want to keep that height I would suggest stiffer suspension and 205-215/45/16. Otherwise your only sulotion on running that softer setup and tires will be raising your car up (to avoid scrubbing)
+1

[anzai]

And to think you were willing to **** up that beautiful example of a lovely DC2R.
Not only that, you'll never be able to sell it again because you pretty much have told the whole Honda community about how you were willing to **** up your car over this forum.


no, you are wrong. i was only asking about the possibility of 'rolling' or flattening the protruding metal to minimise scrubbing. not that i was going to do it anyway, that's why i ASKED the question.

sure i just told everyone in this forum that i'd **** up my car before i sell it. oh next on my list is im gonna cut the whole rear end off, dont need it as it adds unnecessary weight, does anyone know if my car will go faster? oh btw when you see a red dc2r with only 2 wheels for sale, make sure you dont buy it!

[Bludger]

no, you are wrong. i was only asking about the possibility of 'rolling' or flattening the protruding metal to minimise scrubbing. not that i was going to do it anyway, that's why i ASKED the question.
It is possible.

may I ask, why ask if you were never going to think about it?

LOL:p

[anzai]

lol, of course i was thinking about doing it. but i wanted to know the implications of doing so. i didn't specify it clearly, but its implied in the question. is it possible for this metal bit to be modified so to help with the rubbing issue, but leaving the structural integrity of the chassis as it is.

DC2-PWR answered my question and i said thanks, now i know what to do ( or what not to do).


Nah leave as is, that part of structure is to keep the body attached. Weaken that and you body structure will be weak. Have a look at it closely and you can see how much of an effort it took to weld that pieace up.

was i willing to modify this metal bit at the start to fix the rubbing issue? sure

was i willing to **** up my car as a result in doing so? surely not

am i willing to **** up my car now that someone or two has confirmed that its best to leave it and fix the issue by other means? surely not


i started this thread for advice, not your opinion based on assumptions that i don't give two ****s about my car. i dont need to prove anything on the internet, people who know me in real life knows how i deal with my cars. so if all you're gonna do is stir up shit based on your ignorant assumptions, please, respectfully, stay away from my thread.

[Indie]

Don't worry, I never got the impression that you were willing to "**** your car up", in fact you were being diligent and checking before doing anything that would affect the car.

Bludger is just being a provocative ****.

[krogoth]

lol BLUDGER TOO LEET

Anzai, are you a monash student?

i parked next to you last week, got a comparison shot of my dirty red and your clean red lol

[anzai]

lol BLUDGER TOO LEET

Anzai, are you a monash student?

i parked next to you last week, got a comparison shot of my dirty red and your clean red lol

yeh man i remember speaking to you at the eng comp lab when i saw you on ozhonda..

lol nice hahaha, you got a dc2r too?

[krogoth]

yeh lllolol, ah yeh man i remember vaguely, but ive met a few people from ozhonda in the eng comp labs lawlll

but im alumni now, but i do drop by to uni now and again, thats when i saw ur tegzzzz, looking good

yeh i got the my red R early last year, its a work in progress lol

[DC2-PWR]

Any more pics of the DC2R bro, would love to see more.

[anzai]

yeh lllolol, ah yeh man i remember vaguely, but ive met a few people from ozhonda in the eng comp labs lawlll

but im alumni now, but i do drop by to uni now and again, thats when i saw ur tegzzzz, looking good

yeh i got the my red R early last year, its a work in progress lol

oh i see congrats! i used to drive the black ek (my dp) not sure if you've seen it.. come around to the comp lab sometime this week and have a chat. i'll be there everyday til exams are over LOL

thanks man my car is work in progress too... i know another guy from here who's got a red dc2r too, lets go for photos soon!


Any more pics of the DC2R bro, would love to see more.

not at the moment, ill take some more in a few weeks time, after i fix my suspension and drop tyre size :)

[Bludger]

ohh I've got a red one too, lets have bum sex

[krogoth]

mr l4zyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[Lukey]

sorted this out yet?

ill probably start having this problem soon, just starting to rub thru the inner guard plastic lol

[anzai]

i changed my tires from 205/50r16 to 205/45r16

problem fixed, no more rubbing