H22A into EM1

[duckey]

hey guys,

a chance has arisen for me to purchase a H22A. I'm wondering is it worth the power gain into an em1.

has anyone done this before?

cheers

[trism]

Do it. Only weighs about 25kg more tthan the b when you use the b gearbox, and its got a shit load of torque. You'll regret it if you dont.

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[duckey]

thanks for the input. never heard of anyone doing it before.

just wanted to see if thered be any complications.

keep em rolling

[jeremydawg]

Do it. Only weighs about 25kg more tthan the b when you use the b gearbox, and its got a shit load of torque. You'll regret it if you dont.

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^he knows it. Do it!

its worth the extra kw and displ. A friend of mine put a h22 into his dc2 b18, that swap was well worth it! H2b setup would be even better

You could even go turbo in the future...keep the H22 gearbox if you have turbo plans. try get a jdm one, not a big deal but if you can get a jdm h22 that would be an extra 7kw

[duckey]

well the h22 im looking at is a 4th gen jap spec :)

what box should i be using? its H or B box? never heard of anyone doing this swap before so im a bit confused haha...

furthermore its obviously not a straight drop it right? need some custom mounts? wiring/looms?

if anyones achieved this swap before, id appreciate it if you could list what you needed...im most likely going to do it at GPC

[jeremydawg]

well a b-series gearbox would be a better option if you wanna keep it NA. Shorter gear ratios.

Try and get a half cut. Yes you will need custom mounts, can get them off ebay and other places.

[duckey]

cheers man. i think i'll keep my b series box.

yeah ill ask around for the mounts. how about wiring/looms?

[jeremydawg]

just remember you will need around an extra 1.5k if you want the H2b setup. You could also get a h22 type s which is 162kw!

what year is your em1? Whats your budget?

[duckey]

just remember you will need around an extra 1.5k if you want the H2b setup. You could also get a h22 type s which is 162kw!

what year is your em1? Whats your budget?

been looking for a H22 type s :( cannot find one anywhere. I have about 1.5K for labour. planning to sell the b16 asap anyway :)

[shepparton]

ill say at least you must spend min 8k-10k to do proper h2b, the one who just said extra 1.5k totally wrong or no idea

[jeremydawg]

^ he already has the box so around 1.5k for the kit... not including labour

[Benson]

There is alot of things people have not considered when doing a straight h22a or H2b swap. I think people needs to do more research before deciding any motor swaps. Talk to someone who has done it before and get the in's and out's of every swap. You'll be surprise of what you'll find out

[jeremydawg]

^true blue, just throwing ideas around. Ofcourse he will have to do his own solid research.

Best option would be to go to a specialist and tell him what youve been thinking of doing and he will provide you with proffesional advise on what you can do.

[quangsuke]

would need
looms
ecu
mounts
gearbox plate for conversion
h2b headers

[MikeyG]

1.5k is piss weak for h2b

like what that other person and benson said it will take more then that

you cant slap a b series box to a h22a block.. wont work need the h2b kit and the labour will kill ya

[dougie_504]

Why don't you just do a B20? You'll need new mounts, conversion plate/parts for the H2B etc etc. I'm not saying B20 is so much cheaper or whatever but I don't think the H22A will be that much better than the B20VTEC.

To me it just seems like a lot of hassle when you already have a B-series platform, complete with engine. Change the block, or get a B18C block and stroke that out to 2.1L (been done).


I'd rather have the B20.

[SiR Vtec]

honestly i think even doing a swap with a b18c7 will b enuf, if you get a half cut u will b able 2 make the most of it, the type R box is much beter then the b16's so u would be well off throwing that in. Plus a well built type R engine can produce sum decent numbers.

[jeremydawg]

or better yet drive it off a cliff and buy a r31 and drop a rb26 in it

[nigs]

LOL but then you'd be driving a HR31. Lame sauce.

DR30 + FJ20 is where it's at.

[jeremydawg]

hellz yeah!!!

one day imma do something like that... one day

[5thgen_prel]

lol make sure u jump out b4 u fall down the cliff otherwise u wont b drivin no car

[4000gt]

I just finished a h22a4 into eg hatch... much the same.. (and when i say "I", i mean I persoally did it) better option than b18 or b20.... cheaper too.... oh, and forget about h2b unless you're gonna hoon it around all the time (or do track work)... not worth the extra cost. H22a wins on torque alone. Other options can make same power, but the extra displacement wins just because of the extra torque...

Need:
engine, gb, shifter assembly and cables, ecu
mounts (ebay)
driveshafts (ebay or DIY, or buy the brand new ones i didnt end up using, lol)
Conversion harness (makes wiring painless)
thicker alloy radiator with slim thermo... will probably have to get creative mounting it
access to google for when you get stuck.

[TheSaint]

the best bang for buck mod a B16 owner can do is a B20 block conversion
the B16 head already flows well - all it needs is displacement
money well spent imo

[dougie_504]

Although admittedly you could sell your B16A and pretty much buy a H22A no worries, so it's probably cheaper or same price going H22A in hindsight (not H2b)

[defect]

h2b + ac - ps = ftw

qsd h2b adapter plate will set you back about $900aud (there's a guy selling one a qsd one which is brand new for 900ono)
u need custom headers, or u can bend your stock one, or get some eBay ones and get h22a headers modified, labor to modify will cost about $150-180, header=$500

mounts= you can use stock b series mounts, you already have b series mounts, stick with those, sikaflex is your best friend
your b series loom would be used too
you have a b16 gearbox, just use that too and worry about the lsd afterwards.

you need to grind a little bit from the block but its not really much work.
the torque on h2b wins

$1500 for labor is pretty on the ball, that's how much bel garage charged labor for ek h2b setup which had a b18c in it.
dont bother with the evolution h2b kit, motor sits too low to make room for hood clearance, their kit is a rip, has too many custom things like flywheel, mounts.
you can use their kit and still get sump clearance if you spend $500 on a custom sump, thats after spending 1600 on their h2b kit.

the question is can you live without power steering?
read more up on it. it will definitely be much fun than a stock b20. h2b ftw!!