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rorym
19-07-2011, 07:32 PM
I am looking at a rolling as a race car but it is shy the front and rear bumpers and front guards and bonnet. Are these same fitment as Civic the same year or stand alone units? Noob so be nice for the dumb questions.
Thanks.
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Snoop_gee
19-07-2011, 07:40 PM
sad to think people have to be fearful to ask questions on a forum.
As for bumpers i dont think they fit.
As for parts there is places where u can get no doubt where abouts you located.

rorym
19-07-2011, 07:43 PM
Haha..Thanks Snoop...common sense answer at last...Maryborough...Qld...I have a setup from a CRV...the idea is to make a sports sedan for sprints and hillclimbs with AWD on 8" slicks...the body needs some work but is cheap and needs the above parts so trying to work out the easiest/cheapest way to attack the project.
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rorym
19-07-2011, 07:46 PM
Leaning towards the whole CRV drivetrain at the moment..doing the VTEC head on the B20....seems to be a solution...hoping for about 550kg stripped out with cage and AWD and hopefully about 200HP on the B20 VTEC.
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pat88c
19-07-2011, 07:54 PM
ED civic and crx front bumper's do fit
but rear bumper No

If you go with Ed civic bumpers you will need ed guards as ed crx guards don't match up to lines and conner light are small on ED civic to crx

hope that help you

rorym
19-07-2011, 07:57 PM
Thanks Pat...doubt anyone will notice on a race track....are the civic ones wider?..that would be a bonus....
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pat88c
19-07-2011, 08:16 PM
likely there the same but to fit the 8" tyres you will have roll and flare the guard

dougie_504
19-07-2011, 10:56 PM
Sounds like a great project mate, but I'm not sure about the 550kg/200HP part! I think the lightest CRX I've seen was about 750-800kg, and the best B20VTEC I've seen made about 135kw. But don't be fooled, those are great numbers. At 550/200 it would be crazy to drive!

There is a cheap CRX for sale here on the forum, I think about $1200 or so, with a running engine etc, otherwise you might need to check out ebay as these things rarely show up in the wrecker yard.

rorym
19-07-2011, 11:00 PM
Yeah stripped out I will get close...plus removing all glass for perspex etc...still waiting for a reply for the one on here...geez you have to try hard to buy a car these days!..135kw is 180HP...I can live with that..my alternative is a 84 City Pro but think we will have trouble fitting the motor in the small front..
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dougie_504
19-07-2011, 11:29 PM
ED9 you're looking at yeah? I think they're 890kg so I'd love to see what you can get it down to.

Does it have a tin roof or sunroof? Sunroof alone stacks on a bit of weight and can be removed and filled with a carbon fibre plug to save you a good 15kg :D

rorym
19-07-2011, 11:31 PM
Tin roof..
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dougie_504
19-07-2011, 11:35 PM
Awesome. Can't wait to see it when things get underway. Get some pics happening etc and I'll move to Build section :)

rorym
19-07-2011, 11:37 PM
Well we might switch to City Pro AWD yet..that will be interesting..its a race car so I can cut the friewall to get it in..B16A..
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dougie_504
20-07-2011, 04:49 PM
Didn't realise the City Pro was AWD...interesting!

My dad and I have a '83 City Turbo II. I think all of those early City's were sweet looking cars and they actually had quite a bit of poke for something that small.

rorym
20-07-2011, 05:14 PM
Nah its not..was going to convert it...but after huge study night found out the hatchback 88-90 model is lighter that the CRX with a wheelbase 100mm longer..better stability under cornering and brakes so that will be the way I go I think.
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Renaissance_x
20-07-2011, 05:27 PM
ED civic and crx front bumper's do fit
but rear bumper No

If you go with Ed civic bumpers you will need ed guards as ed crx guards don't match up to lines and conner light are small on ED civic to crx

hope that help you

Actually that is not the best advice.

The lower section of the ed-ef civic front gaurds need to be cut and rewelded to fit on a crx.

Boss wrecking in Brisbane deal with CRX but they are pretty pricey.
I also have a audm rear bar with no back plate you could have for 50 dollars if you want it.

rorym
20-07-2011, 05:35 PM
Thanks...decided the hatch is lighter to use...so parts will be more plentiful as well...B20 VTEC is under way...still trying to read through all the advice/articles to get my head around it...
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hitoriko
20-07-2011, 07:51 PM
If your goign to put on a ED/EF Front from a Civic you need:

- Front bar
- Front fillter panel
- Headlights and corner lights
- Reinforcement
- Guards - Where the guards join the apillar will have to be modified to fit the lower sill properly
- Bonnet is the same

Im considering doing this as im slowly...building my CRX for track but if i can get the aboved sourced cheaply i might also road rego it.

If you do end up with a CRX ill be very interested in your build

cheers!

rorym
20-07-2011, 07:54 PM
CRX is heavier than hatchback...= not good...and shorter..
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dougie_504
20-07-2011, 11:48 PM
How heavy is the hatch mate? The CRX will surely have a lower centre of gravity? How does the hatch compare to a CRX in terms of steering response, handling etc?

rorym
21-07-2011, 08:07 PM
How heavy is the hatch mate? The CRX will surely have a lower centre of gravity? How does the hatch compare to a CRX in terms of steering response, handling etc?

I used to work with Frank Matich in F5000s...Peter..his engineer has done some calcs for me..basically the hatch is 10-20kgs lighter...but the big winner is the extra length in wheelbase..CRXs are prone..due to 62/38 weight distrubtion..to swapping ends..read spinning..on the limit...this will cure that to a degree...and it is wider in the track as well..
Centre of gravity is not an issue...lower the car...fit fuel cell in rear...rear pumpkin for 4WD...just about balance it out in our numbers...
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