S2000 Gearbox issues / plug threading rounded.

[ALPS]

Apparently Ultra Tune stuffed the threading for the Gearbox Oil NUT.. i've seen it. they held it in with silicon the bastards. Carl from Patterson Lakes CRS Automotive put Liquid Metal in its place to hold it in alot more secure. I'm under the impression that i need to get the gearbox oil topped up / changed for clunky noises and hard to select gears. How can i go about getting it fixed? do i need to buy another gearbox? or can i do a temporary fix to rethread it and use a larger nut?

[AusS2000]

You need to drain the box, drill and tap the hole the next size up, then flush it out with some oil. Then fill and fit the bigger plug.

[AusS2000]

Or re-thread with a helical or similar and use original plug

[ALPS]

i don't know to do that. But i will research it! lol.

Thanks alot for your help AusS2000 you're really helpful on this forum.

[AusS2000]

I specialise in technical help and sarcastic comments. ;)

[zhong]

^^^ I agree. :D

[ALPS]

I specialise in technical help and sarcastic comments. ;)

Hahaha. good man.!

[ALPS]

ok so a few people actually also mentioned that i should check my clutch master cylinder, clutch fluid? and clutch slave. I don't know where to find them exactly and how to check if they're good or not. Also must mention that essendon honda did tell me i have a leak in my clutch muster cylinder or something. the bottom of my gearbox has moist oil all over it when i looked getting a wheel alignment. i don't have my own tools to jack it up or anything. If i need to invest in some, what do i go for?

[garett]

if you plan on re-tapping the filler hole id recommend having someone doing it who knows what they are doing.

basically they are going to drill it out to a larger hole and then re-thread it so a larger plug will fit in it.

[AusS2000]

^ What he said.

Get them to flush your clutch fluid at the same time and check for leaks. Same with your brake master cylinder.

Word of warning though, if they say you need a new clutch master/slave or brake mastercylinder source the part yourself. You can get them much cheaper and quicker from US online sites than through Honda Australia.

[ALPS]

^ What he said.

Get them to flush your clutch fluid at the same time and check for leaks. Same with your brake master cylinder.

Word of warning though, if they say you need a new clutch master/slave or brake mastercylinder source the part yourself. You can get them much cheaper and quicker from US online sites than through Honda Australia.

I completely agree, but Who can i trust to do this work and not ask me for my arm or leg in return? also needs to be willing to follow that DIY on grinding off the dirt and regreasing the rod with the nippple at the end for the clutch shaft or something. hope you know which one im talking about?

[ALPS]

if you plan on re-tapping the filler hole id recommend having someone doing it who knows what they are doing.

basically they are going to drill it out to a larger hole and then re-thread it so a larger plug will fit in it.

Also, won't this put metal pieces into the gearbox n stuff it all up?

[AusS2000]

I personally won't let any mechanic work on my car. Do it all myself. That and the fact I am in Sydney means I can't help with recommendations.

I am familiar with the 'polish the knob' procedure you speak of. ;)

And with regards to metal in your gearbox, that's what the flush is for.

[ALPS]

I personally won't let any mechanic work on my car. Do it all myself. That and the fact I am in Sydney means I can't help with recommendations.

I am familiar with the 'polish the knob' procedure you speak of. ;)

And with regards to metal in your gearbox, that's what the flush is for.

am seriously thinking of moving to sydney or something. Everyone and everything can be found there and done there soo much easier.

[ALPS]

i want to see your car! am curious..

[AusS2000]

Well if you come to Sydney I'll do it for you. Standard cost is a bottle of scotch.

[ALPS]

Well if you come to Sydney I'll do it for you. Standard cost is a bottle of scotch.

you know what? i am thinking of going on a holiday. i wonder if it's healthy to drive it all the way there as it is? it'll be annoying constantly with the dodgey clutch and gears not going in rigt though. :(

[AusS2000]

Probably not advisable to drive with a bad clutch.

[ALPS]

haha i thought so :p

damn it. it's really getting annoying now. need to get it sorted asap. i don't know what to do. who to go to :(

[vyets]

have you checked the fluid level yet?
pop the hood and take a look
https://www.jhpusa.com/store/pc/catalog/honda/hop.ap1.clutchrsvr2_d.jpg

if it's low on fluid, top it up.. if it goes low again there's prob a leak

[AusS2000]

Also check the colour. New fluid is blue or gold and translucent, old is dark and opaque.

[ALPS]

have you checked the fluid level yet?
pop the hood and take a look
https://www.jhpusa.com/store/pc/catalog/honda/hop.ap1.clutchrsvr2_d.jpg

if it's low on fluid, top it up.. if it goes low again there's prob a leak

If it's low, which i suspect it will be. What do i use to top it up?

[vyets]

brake fluid

[ALPS]

Lol i know that much! but should i just go oem? is there better stuff? i jsut spoke with essendon honda. i'm going to get them to look into it. i need to get a master cylinder and they said less likely to be a slave. is there any heavy duty stuff? he said oem would be 600-700

[ALPS]

Lol i know that much! but should i just go oem? is there better stuff? i jsut spoke with essendon honda. i'm going to get them to look into it. i need to get a master cylinder and they said less likely to be a slave. is there any heavy duty stuff? he said oem would be 600-700

I found these online.

http://www.redlinemotive.com/part-number/omni-power/cmc-s2k.asp
http://www.redlinemotive.com/store/replacement/wizard.asp?year=2001&make=HO&model=S20--001&category=I&part=Clutch+Slave+Cylinder
http://www.redlinemotive.com/store/replacement/wizard.asp?year=2001&make=HO&model=S20--001&category=I&part=Clutch+Master+Cylinder

I got quoted 280 for the labor of installing them, bleeding them and new fluid.

If essendon honda was to source it all he quoted 780 dollars all up. LOL! i wish i could do this work by my self.

[AusS2000]

Try this place:

http://www.cflhonda.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=getJointLocator&siteid=215502&chapter=&sectionids=11,0&groupid=10028&subgroupid=61075&make=12&model=S2000&year=2000&catalogid=1&displayCatalogid=0

[ALPS]

Try this place:

http://www.cflhonda.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=getJointLocator&siteid=215502&chapter=&sectionids=11,0&groupid=10028&subgroupid=61075&make=12&model=S2000&year=2000&catalogid=1&displayCatalogid=0

Thanks! i found this site on another forum somewhere as well. i just ordered the slave cylinder and master cylinder. i hope shipping doesn't cause any dramas or take too lone :( i cant stand driving my car like this and i drive it all the time

[vyets]

don't wish just do mate. Gotta start somewhere.

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/270439-03-clutch-slave-cylinder-install-on-04/ pretty straight forward

and if you need to replace the master cylinder

http://www.hondaclub.com/forum/articles/16459-how-replace-clutch-master-cylinder-s2000.html

[ALPS]

don't wish just do mate. Gotta start somewhere.

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/270439-03-clutch-slave-cylinder-install-on-04/ pretty straight forward

and if you need to replace the master cylinder

http://www.hondaclub.com/forum/articles/16459-how-replace-clutch-master-cylinder-s2000.html

doesn't explain how to bleed it though :(

[vyets]

bleeding is the same as ur brakes just google it mate. it's the same on every car

[ALPS]

Hey Guys,

Just thought i'd let you know i got the parts from the same guy Auss2000 linked me to.

Clutch Master Cylinder $ 78.03
Clutch Slave Cylinder $ 55.54

total = $133.57 plus $51.80 shipping cost = $187.37. Got to my house within a couple of days. really happy with the guys service and very highly recommended to anyone. Genuine Honda parts with the sticker.

Essendon Honda quoted me $280 labour and oil bleeding etc to install it. and they quoted 780 with parts. so they wanted 500 dollars for the parts and probably would've taken them longer to get the parts in too!! saved soo much money and time.!

I'm thinking of buying a jack and stands to be able to do this work myself. Any Suggestions on a good low profile jack and also reliable?

[AusS2000]

I got mine from Autobarn. It's 90mm at it's lowest point so fits under my car. Was $300.

[ALPS]

I got mine from Autobarn. It's 90mm at it's lowest point so fits under my car. Was $300.

how can i be certain it doesn't release or trip or wheels dont roll when im under? is it recomended i have 4 stand for the car and then release the jack? how can i find very reliable jacks and stands? last thing i want is my life to end because i wanted to do it myself

[AusS2000]

You jack the car up to place jack stands under it. Never get under it when it's on the trolley jack.

[ALPS]

You jack the car up to place jack stands under it. Never get under it when it's on the trolley jack.

ok, thank you very much for the info. I'll try and find myself a jack and some stands. Think it's time i invest in them and do this work myself. Now just need the space. haha

[AusS2000]

We always here legends shrouded in mist of jacks collapsing on someone but often think of it as an urban myth. But last year an S2000 owner in the US and active member of S2Ki was killed when his car collapsed on him whilst working on the rear end.

[ALPS]

We always here legends shrouded in mist of jacks collapsing on someone but often think of it as an urban myth. But last year an S2000 owner in the US and active member of S2Ki was killed when his car collapsed on him whilst working on the rear end.

Oh MY! what caused it? was he relying on a jack? did he have stands? that scares me from trying to do the work now. i'm worrying that my clutch might be on its way as well. when im reversing mainly i notice that the clutch is trying to grip but it stutters i don't know if it is a warn out slip or just a i'm releasing the clutch incorrectly slip. only a couple of times i noticed it when going from launch. sometimes when i'm quick shifting from redline 1st gear to 2nd and dumping it, i dont know if its a wheel spin or if its the clutch slipping. kind of feels like a slight wheel spin with no chirping. this car is costing me soo much :(

[ALPS]

actually, do you know who this fellow is? http://rimtuck.com/photos.php?photo=1282278316.jpg&id=1092&h=1

i am in love with his car! the rear end is just fantastic. i want to get those same rear lip? strake? valance? don't know what their correct term is.

[ALPS]

What do you think of this?

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=shop&item_ID=84707&group_ID=1716&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog

and cant decide which stand

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/tools.asp?tool=shop&Group_ID=1725&store=snapon-store

[AusS2000]

smirf

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/785922-prayers-needs-smirfs2k05-paul/page__hl__%2Bjack+%2Brip

I often work under my car with the front or back on jacks. I have a hard and level concrete floor in my garage but still from now on I will chock the front wheels when working under the rear and use the handbrake when working under the front.

[AusS2000]

actually, do you know who this fellow is? http://rimtuck.com/photos.php?photo=1282278316.jpg&id=1092&h=1

He he, just some loser. ;)

That's ludecrs, our fearless leader!

[AusS2000]

And the rear bit you like is called a diffuser.

[AusS2000]

What do you think of this?

Snap-on stuff is great quality but very pricey. I have a set of the blue and white jack stands but not sure what capacity.

[ALPS]

He he, just some loser. ;)

That's ludecrs, our fearless leader!

Ohwww really?! woops.. sorry ludecrs :p please dont ban me.


And the rear bit you like is called a diffuser.

ohh nah i know the J's Racing Diffuser, but i meant the ones on the rear corners? are they a lip? under spoiler? something like that, i've heard them being called like ten different things. i can't justify 1200 dollars for the diffuser just yet, got more important things to do first. but i wouldn't mind those lips and rear spoiler.

[ALPS]

smirf

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/785922-prayers-needs-smirfs2k05-paul/page__hl__%2Bjack+%2Brip

I often work under my car with the front or back on jacks. I have a hard and level concrete floor in my garage but still from now on I will chock the front wheels when working under the rear and use the handbrake when working under the front.

and that is really upsetting :( RIP Paul. it really scares me now. what if i get 4 stands and not rely on the jack at all? is that an alot more stable option?

[cflhonda.com]

ALPS,

I am very happy you are happy with the parts. Thanks for giving us a shot. If you have any questions or need anything else just let me know.


Thanks,
Dan@CFLHonda

[ALPS]

ALPS,

I am very happy you are happy with the parts. Thanks for giving us a shot. If you have any questions or need anything else just let me know.


Thanks,
Dan@CFLHonda

Thank you for the fantastic service. I will let you know if i have any issues. Just need to get them put in. GOing to get Essendon Honda to do it. I don't want to wait to buy a jack and stands and do it all my self. 280 dollars, but atleast i know the pros are doing it. Well hopefully 'pros'

[aaronng]

smirf

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/785922-prayers-needs-smirfs2k05-paul/page__hl__%2Bjack+%2Brip

I often work under my car with the front or back on jacks. I have a hard and level concrete floor in my garage but still from now on I will chock the front wheels when working under the rear and use the handbrake when working under the front.
I used to work on my brake calipers using just a trolley jack. Stopped doing that when the jack went down by 10cm while I was working! Never again! I use jackstands now.

[ALPS]

I used to work on my brake calipers using just a trolley jack. Stopped doing that when the jack went down by 10cm while I was working! Never again! I use jackstands now.

wow, that's really scary. that's why sometimes i just want to let the experts do it. not worth putting my own life at risk. But i am definately going to buy a jack and stands and start doing slight mods or changes in my own time. it's just for now i want it fixed asap. i'm hoping this fixes my shift feel. if not, i'm still going to have to go and get my gearbox sorted :( hope my clutch and gearbox isn't ruined. that'll be another 4-5gs there. this car has cost me over 40gs after buying it and just fixing things on it. i should've had a hot s2 by now :'(

[ALPS]

Soooooooo!!! Guys! i just picked up my car from Essendon Honda and paid 500 all up with labour and parts that i sourced from america. The car is still Freeking squeeky with the clutch and now they tell me my clutch is on its way. im seriously sick of spending soo much money on this thing and not getting any where!! i just feel like driving into a POLE! My Transmission is still shit to flick between gears. the threading is stuffed so i dont know how im going to flush the oil. the clutch master and slave made no difference at all except that my clutch is light and the friction point is really high up now. i dont know what to do. 500 dollars gone for nothing already. im thinking of a Exeddy Hyper CLutch but friend reccomended that i just go heavy duty and not hyper cos thats more for race. please help me :'(

[AusS2000]

What I said in other thread.