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mugen_ctr
01-08-2011, 01:35 PM
hey peeps, are these good for budget coilovers?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/GAB-HA-Series-Coilover-Suspension-Kit-Honda-CIVIC-EK-/330547211968?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4cf6262ec0#ht_874wt_905

I dont wanna spend much, as its a daily, an dont plan on tracking it more than once a year.....

Or i can either go for BWR coilovers for similar price from usa...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BWR-STREET-FULL-COILOVER-KIT-HONDA-CIVIC-96-00-EK-/290516993698?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43a42986a2#ht_2214wt_939

vtecing
01-08-2011, 03:18 PM
Hey man, I was tossing up between these two also. GAB make a quality product just like most stuff from Jap land, but the thing that turned me away from them is that they are not base adjustable, so when you change the height, it changes the spring rates.

Can't vouch for ride or handling for the BWR but they defiantly seem to be good quality and bang for buck!

mugen_ctr
01-08-2011, 05:03 PM
thx for reply, i didnt reliaze Gab were like that... Definite gonna order my BWR coilovers tonight than :D

I do realize no one has em in aust, but maybe i can change that around lol

cheers

chargeR
01-08-2011, 05:55 PM
Hey man, I was tossing up between these two also. GAB make a quality product just like most stuff from Jap land, but the thing that turned me away from them is that they are not base adjustable, so when you change the height, it changes the spring rates.

Can't vouch for ride or handling for the BWR but they defiantly seem to be good quality and bang for buck!

The spring rate doesn't change, but the amount of bump and droop travel from static ride height does (sometimes confusingly called preload, when a spring is preloaded all you are doing is manipulating the amount of droop/bump travel, the spring rate remains unchanged)


thx for reply, i didnt reliaze Gab were like that... Definite gonna order my BWR coilovers tonight than :D

I do realize no one has em in aust, but maybe i can change that around lol

cheers

A single spring perch adjustment isn't really a huge disadvantage if the damper is decent and has sufficient stroke. The overwhelming majority of true race shocks (JRZ, Moton, AST, Dynamic Suspension....) are only adjustable by a single spring perch, but they often have very large travel available and external reservoirs to help with more travel (the gas and separator piston are in the reservoir, not taking up space within the shock as in a TDM, JDM etc. monotube). So often the amount of shock stroke available in a cheap monotube damper is so small that the height must be adjustable with a separate mechanism that doesn't affect shock travel because otherwise the very short stroke shock will be bottoming or topping out constantly.

So I would get the GABs and set them to a reasonable height rather than those junky BWRs.

blabla
01-08-2011, 06:41 PM
thx for reply, i didnt reliaze Gab were like that... Definite gonna order my BWR coilovers tonight than :D

I do realize no one has em in aust, but maybe i can change that around lol

cheers

The Gab's I am getting have the adjustable base. GAB ss. But they are double the cost of the ha's.

vtecing
01-08-2011, 08:47 PM
So I would get the GABs and set them to a reasonable height rather than those junky BWRs.

Any reason why u say the bwr are junk

chargeR
01-08-2011, 10:32 PM
Any reason why u say the bwr are junk

Calling them 'junky' was probably a bit unfair, I honestly have no idea whether they are good or bad, they could be filled with cream cheese for all I know. They probably are. However a manufacturer can only spend so much money on awesome 6061 Al alloy top mounts, forged aluminium bracketry and anodizing before you run out of money to develop and manufacture quality shock internals. Take a look at THIS (http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2680526&highlight=blackworks) thread and THIS (http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2647707) thread, obviously only internet hearsay but still not encouraging. If there was some evidence of warranty or a good looking shock dyno then I would consider them, but there isn't. Thus based solely on a name I prefer the Gab coilovers, and because they are red

DC2-PWR
01-08-2011, 10:37 PM
GAB's are great quality coilovers, mate has it in his EG and loves it.

We bought it through the BYP boys so PM fatboyz39 (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/member.php?2325-fatboyz39) if you get any issues ordering them in. Great prices this guy wouldn't rip you off.

blabla
01-08-2011, 11:49 PM
GAB's are great quality coilovers, mate has it in his EG and loves it.

We bought it through the BYP boys so PM fatboyz39 (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/member.php?2325-fatboyz39) if you get any issues ordering them in. Great prices this guy wouldn't rip you off.

X2 getting mine of them also...

Mr.Brightside
02-08-2011, 02:09 AM
GABs are great for their price.

Rudy
02-08-2011, 05:34 AM
Just make sure the GABs your getting are from the Japan company, which I don't think exists anymore. I was gonna order some off ebay till I found out they were from GAB malaysia, which has nothing to do with GAB Japan..2 diff companies and products, they just stole the name.

http://eightgc2.forumup.com/about6024-eightgc2.html

Seems like if its from Singapore = made in taiwan version.

DC2-PWR
02-08-2011, 06:23 AM
Just make sure the GABs your getting are from the Japan company, which I don't think exists anymore. I was gonna order some off ebay till I found out they were from GAB malaysia, which has nothing to do with GAB Japan..2 diff companies and products, they just stole the name.

http://eightgc2.forumup.com/about6024-eightgc2.html


Seems like if its from Singapore = made in taiwan version.

Like I posted in my previous post, if you get any dramas finding the legit GAB coilovers pm fatboyz39, he'll get you the real deal without the concern. Unless you want to risk buying things it's up to you.

Cartoon
02-08-2011, 06:52 AM
GAB's are great, driven on them a few times. very nice on both the street and the track, prob one of the best all round shocks I have been on. I heard zeals are the best all round but dont remember the ride in BADHBT, was to busy loving the k power!

hacker_82
02-08-2011, 08:32 AM
i just got mine on last week and ready to install to my accord euro on this weekend... hope so everything going well...

anyone install them by self? now im thinking either install by myself or ask professional to install. please advise.

vtecing
02-08-2011, 10:32 AM
piece of cake to install with a friend

Rudy
02-08-2011, 07:19 PM
Like I posted in my previous post, if you get any dramas finding the legit GAB coilovers pm fatboyz39, he'll get you the real deal without the concern. Unless you want to risk buying things it's up to you.

Ahh didn't know what you were referring to..my bad.

blabla
14-08-2011, 11:26 PM
Gab coilovers are in an they are excellent.

vtecing
16-08-2011, 06:34 AM
nice work. How did you go with adjusting the height? Same all round?

dave_L
16-08-2011, 02:39 PM
Hi guys,

Im in the market for a set of coilover for my EJ as well, But i dont seems to be able to find a listing for my car.

http://www.gab.jp/ is their japanese offical web site and I cant find any coilover for my EJ or any other car.

but i found http://www.gabsuspension.com.my/Catalog.asp have the listing for my car.

Are they the same company? or just a Knock off? just like BRIDE Japan and BRIDE Taiwan?

EG5
16-08-2011, 02:45 PM
Hi guys,

Im in the market for a set of coilover for my EJ as well, But i dont seems to be able to find a listing for my car.

http://www.gab.jp/ is their japanese offical web site and I cant find any coilover for my EJ or any other car.

but i found http://www.gabsuspension.com.my/Catalog.asp have the listing for my car.

Are they the same company? or just a Knock off? just like BRIDE Japan and BRIDE Taiwan?

not the same,

GAB Japan products are top notch quality stuff, too bad they no longer make coilovers/shocks for normal cars. They are more focus on K-car/Wagon style tuning.

GAB.COM.MY on the other hand...lol no comments.....

blabla
16-08-2011, 08:37 PM
Hi guys,

Im in the market for a set of coilover for my EJ as well, But i dont seems to be able to find a listing for my car.

http://www.gab.jp/ is their japanese offical web site and I cant find any coilover for my EJ or any other car.

but i found http://www.gabsuspension.com.my/Catalog.asp have the listing for my car.

Are they the same company? or just a Knock off? just like BRIDE Japan and BRIDE Taiwan?

I just bought some Gab coilovers. You can use coilovers that are off an Ek mine are from an Ek. No fitting problems at all.

mugen_ctr
16-08-2011, 08:37 PM
not the same,

GAB Japan products are top notch quality stuff, too bad they no longer make coilovers/shocks for normal cars. They are more focus on K-car/Wagon style tuning.

GAB.COM.MY on the other hand...lol no comments.....

So what differs the cheap GAB to the Jap Gab stuff? i thought both were of the same lol

hondar
16-08-2011, 11:06 PM
no offend to any malaysian out there but this is the source of all fake parts you can get, apexi, tein, pivot, mugen etc... however this is not exclusive only malaysia issue. it happens all over south east asia but for some reason, it is always coming out from malaysia as the source distribution.

you get what you pay for i suppose. GAB MY i think has nothing to do with GAB japan. similar name, different products.

zco
16-08-2011, 11:51 PM
Hahaha lol at GABmy coilovers

SuperJDM.
16-08-2011, 11:55 PM
getting interesting

mugen_ctr
17-08-2011, 12:03 AM
If GAB MY is a by product ebay, than its safe to say, its just like the rest of em.... only differance being the location, imo, ur better off getting other coilovers from usa from usa, like my BWR or even the Godspeed coilovers, atleast u knw ppl use them, and have for the last 2-3 years with no dramas :)

blabla
17-08-2011, 08:41 PM
So you all are saying that the byp guys don't get the legitimate gabs in are you?

mugen_ctr
17-08-2011, 08:51 PM
So you all are saying that the byp guys don't get the legitimate gabs in are we?

Im with you on this one.... the only GAB coilovers ive seen is on the 2nd hand market, and it seems very legit, and usually cost the 1k mark, which leads me to believe brand new, its bound to cost well over 1.6k - 2k easy

Ive never seen new GAB coilovers so i cant say for sure, and in light of this GAB my and the japan GAB, i need answers lol

mugen_ctr
17-08-2011, 08:54 PM
Calling them 'junky' was probably a bit unfair, I honestly have no idea whether they are good or bad, they could be filled with cream cheese for all I know. They probably are. However a manufacturer can only spend so much money on awesome 6061 Al alloy top mounts, forged aluminium bracketry and anodizing before you run out of money to develop and manufacture quality shock internals. Take a look at THIS (http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2680526&highlight=blackworks) thread and THIS (http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2647707) thread, obviously only internet hearsay but still not encouraging. If there was some evidence of warranty or a good looking shock dyno then I would consider them, but there isn't. Thus based solely on a name I prefer the Gab coilovers, and because they are red

Im running them atm, and i can say, they feel awsum! best bang for buck, and with 1 year warrenty, im fine with it :D

Comfy enough on a daily and spring rates at f10 r6, ride isnt as harsh or bumpy, but typical of all coilvers i guess

blabla
17-08-2011, 09:09 PM
I bought them... Anyways I'm happy with them they are a shoit load better them my skunk2 sleeve setup. I bought mine of the byp guys. Just because they are not as expensive as the other brand does not make them junky or just like the others. We have to remember that if you cut the middle man out you can pass the savings across to the customer. Why pay such an extravagant amount for something because there is a middleman involved.

fatboyz39
17-08-2011, 10:22 PM
Wait till ill try these GAB's on a trackcar results will up show the 2-3k coilover range :).

blabla
18-08-2011, 05:15 PM
Wait till ill try these GAB's on a trackcar results will up show the 2-3k coilover range :).

Totally agree

Benson
26-08-2011, 04:58 PM
We one of the GAB SS coilovers installed in an EVO 8 weekend track car. Feedback from the driver was awesome dampering and ride quality. No knocks or leaks compared to hid last set of Tein monoflex. So far he gave it the thumbs up for it! He has seen the track twice now and drives the car on a daily basis

So if there is still haters out there, go spend 2-3k on branded coilovers that won't even perform as well as the GAB SS for half the price

getm_up
28-08-2011, 03:22 PM
i dont know what people expect from $600 coilovers. i had a set of tein coilovers on my s13 and they were no different to a $700 set i bought off ebay to replace them.
the reason i bought the $700 set was because the seals were broken on the front and were leaking, i went to Fauklrums to get new seal etc and it cost the same for a ebay set.

i will be buying the GAB's for me EK

Mr.Brightside
28-08-2011, 03:41 PM
The $600 ones arn't the GAB SS model. I haven't seen the lower model versions, but i've experienced the SS's and i could not belive the quality. Really makes you think why'd you'd spend 2-4k on some other branded coilovers.

I belive the EVO 8 Benson mentioned smashed its old PB on the Teins by over a second with the GAB's.

mugen_ctr
28-08-2011, 04:32 PM
the entry levels ones are HA ones are the $600, they are only height adjustable from the spring perch, and dont have a adjustable lower sleeve body like typical coilovers

As far as SS, well its established they are bang for buck compared to others

GSi_PSi
29-08-2011, 10:50 AM
How do these compete with BC Racing Coils ?

fatboyz39
29-08-2011, 09:37 PM
BC or buddyclub ?

GSi_PSi
29-08-2011, 10:01 PM
bc racing not buddyclub

blabla
29-08-2011, 11:02 PM
All I can say is the coilovers are bloody amazing. I am willing to take anyone for a drive which is interested in purchasing these. That is only if your in syd lol.

CivtecEG
10-09-2011, 03:08 PM
ive just installed a set and i would honestly recommend them to anyone, the only real issue i see in reviews are that the spring rates are too soft so i opted for 10kg front and 8kg rear, rides pretty comfortably, handles well

Mr.Brightside
10-09-2011, 04:54 PM
At the end of the day, you don't need Tein SRC's to drive down George st. Most people will never see the track, cheap coilovers will do the job, bang for buck you can't go wrong.

GSi_PSi
10-09-2011, 11:55 PM
Hey Brandon how cheap are we talking ? Cheaper than bc racing

Mr.Brightside
11-09-2011, 12:12 AM
Hey Brandon how cheap are we talking ? Cheaper than bc racing

Both around the same price range, both pretty decent for street use.