when does the timing belt snap?

[fongyfong]

I know ur suppose to to change ur timing belt every 100000 kms, but if u go over how long will it last until it snaps? my cars done around 101000 kms, and at the moment i havnt got the cash so how long ya rekjon it will last?

[EuroAccord13]

It'll snap when if wants too... there is no way of knowing when.. you have to pretty look at it's condition and usage...

Manufacturers recommend a certain lifespan of it in kms but they'll normally have a tolerence but again, that is based on normal driving conditions, if you've been pushing the car, it might or it might not break.... :)

[zco]

keep going till it snaps.. then you'll know when it does. haha

[wynode]

keep going till it snaps.. then you'll know when it does. haha
ROFL

If you can't afford to change it, either don't drive the car, or don't take it above 3K rpm or so.........but it all depends on the condition of the belt and its life before thouse 100Kms

Drive it at your own risk!

[Dominik]

Belts dont get to 100k and then say "ooh, i better snap now"

It has just as much chance of snapping at 110k kms as it does at 90k kms. It depends on so many factors....

[civiceg9]

Honda OEM belts are not exactly thick, Get some after market like "Gates performace belts". Over in Asia most ppl change timing belts every 60-70,000kms.

[DLO01]

Best to get it done when your supposed to get it done. Will be a whole lot more expensive if you chomp up some valves. :D

[poid]

i'd be getting it done every 90k to be honest, have it done ASAP

[ECU-MAN]

dont forget people that Honda also recommend changing the belt every 5 years/100,000KMS

dont risk it, $300 timming belt change is small price to pay compared to $1200 for head recon

[fongyfong]

yeah ouch 1200 thanks for the help guys, im gonna see if i can lend some cash, another quick question what happens when the timing belt snaps? what does it do to the engine? and the car?

[DLO01]

yeah ouch 1200 thanks for the help guys, im gonna see if i can lend some cash, another quick question what happens when the timing belt snaps? what does it do to the engine? and the car?
Basically your Cams will go out of Time, therefore your valves will be out of Time. Pistons hit Valves extended and bend them, they then crack you valve guides and they in turn damage you head. Damage you pistons too. Have done it before, speaking from experience. Wasn't my fault though, engine builders fault. :thumbsup:

[redliner]

could be tommorrow or today :p

[DLO01]

One of my bent intake valves make a good paper weight though! :p

[ECU-MAN]

also if you got a leaking seal in there and you got an oil soaked belt, it will snap alot sooner

[poid]

thats exactly how my brother's cam belt snapped...leaky cam seal weakened it and it snapped after about 80,000km

only 2 bent valves, got away with it lightly

[toE]

*moved*

[**Ghost**]

well mine lasted 116,000km... : ) probably was lucky

[Dominik]

When i bought my car, it had 215,000kms and the previous owner didnt know if the belts had been changed. Naturally i went straight to the mech, and had it changed. Only to find out that the belts that were in there were practically new still.

a month or so later, my water pump leaked, so i replaced the belts *again*. Now my engine looks new, feels new and i'm happy :)

[Weq]

When i bought my car, it had 215,000kms and the previous owner didnt know if the belts had been changed. Naturally i went straight to the mech, and had it changed. Only to find out that the belts that were in there were practically new still.

a month or so later, my water pump leaked, so i replaced the belts *again*. Now my engine looks new, feels new and i'm happy :)


no offense, but it isnt exactly hard to see the difference between a new and a 100000km's old belt. the mechanic shouldnt of chnaged it.. bl about the water pump ;(

[MoonSha]

So... this timing belt, is that the one off to side? has a cover over it, runs over the cam gear? :rolleyes:

[CTR Coupe]

a month or so later, my water pump leaked, so i replaced the belts *again*. Now my engine looks new, feels new and i'm happy :)

thats why its a good idea to do the timing belt and the water pump at the same time.

[DLO01]

So... this timing belt, is that the one off to side? has a cover over it, runs over the cam gear? :rolleyes:
Aye. :thumbsup:

[Dominik]

Weq, I would have asked him to change it anyway; that way i know when it was changed, and it gives me peace of mind. I got all the oil seals done at the same time so it wouldnt leak either. Actually, my mechanic suggested that i change the waterpump, but it was getting a little expensive at that point so i said no (D'Oh!!!!)

[MoonSha]

How can you tell if your timing belt is getting worn?

before it starts to slip or do anything you would notice without looking.

[BlueEG5]

Hi Guys, :honda:

How much is it to get the timing belt change???
I think i need to replace mine soon too.

[ECU-MAN]

every modle Honda is different, some belts cost more that others. some Hondas have two belts so the cost goes up.

when looking at the belt, if you cant read the writing on it clearly defanantly change it, if it has any cracks or frey or oil logged, change it asap. if the colour of the belt has gone dull compared to the new one change it. if your unsure about it chage it .

[fongyfong]

can some one tell me where the timing belt is located at?

[ECU-MAN]

behind the timming belt covers, front of engine

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15443

there are some photos there of the timming belt and the top timming cover off

[Trojan]

According to the official service manual of the 98 honda integra (which i have here infront of me), it says that timing belt should be changed for this car (including V-tec version) at 168,000kms.
Look at any website in the us about timing belts for this car and they recommend to change the belt at 90,000 miles which is 130,000kms. So why in australia do they reckon we gotta do it at 100,000kms????
Its all about making cash for the mechanics!!!

[SKREMN]

I snapped my one on B18A1 and got off easy didnt have to fix or change anything apart from a new belt
just before it snaped i noticed a loud whipping noise coming from the side of the motor drove down to my mechanic to have him have a look
but he closed early and then on my way back it snapped!

[ECU-MAN]

According to the official service manual of the 98 honda integra (which i have here infront of me), it says that timing belt should be changed for this car (including V-tec version) at 168,000kms.
Look at any website in the us about timing belts for this car and they recommend to change the belt at 90,000 miles which is 130,000kms. So why in australia do they reckon we gotta do it at 100,000kms????
Its all about making cash for the mechanics!!!

its not about making money,

Honad Timming belts have a lifespan of 100000km or 5 years, sure you can stretch this out, but thats being foolish in my opinion.

[Trojan]

would be interested to hear from a few people that have actually had their belts snap and at what kms that happened, ie how many kms their belts lasted.

[Paul1985]

keep going till it snaps.. then you'll know when it does. haha

pretty much what i did and i definately do not recomend doing this.. lol

mine was due for a replacement at 200,000kms and it snapped around the 225,000km mark

[Trojan]

Was 225,000kms when it snapped on its second timing belt? It was changed at 100,000kms too right?
Also what engine u got?

[Paul1985]

It happened on a 1995 EG Civic with a SOHC non-vtec engine (d15b7 i think). I dont know when the first belt was replaced as my car doesnt have any of the books it was supposed to come with.

When i had my mechanic replace it he installed it incorrectly and i ended up fixing up the problem myself, heres my thread on how i went with it if your interested:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24042

I would recommend getting it swapped if its at the km that its recommended to be swapped at.

Either way you are going to have to get it done, it will cost you the same amount in the end. Whether that be now or when the belt snaps. If you wait for the belt to snap you may not be as lucky as myself and you may bend your valves... This would be a hell of alot more expensive than a belt swap too! You could end up with a terrible result.

[SKREMN]

would be interested to hear from a few people that have actually had their belts snap and at what kms that happened, ie how many kms their belts lasted.
Mine snapped at about 270,000 and my log books only says it was changed at 100,000
so it could of been 170,000 on one belt
no way of finding out but

[Trojan]

Mine snapped at about 270,000 and my log books only says it was changed at 100,000
so it could of been 170,000 on one belt
no way of finding out but

That sounds about right....official 98 integra service manual says belt lasts for 168,000kms so in your case that was pretty accurate. I've never really heard of somebody snapping one after less than 150k-160k kms so if u go a little bit over 100,000kms that the mechanics suggest u change it at, you should be fine.
Good to hear they last :)!!!!

Any serious damage on your engine when it snapped for you?

[SKREMN]

That sounds about right....official 98 integra service manual says belt lasts for 168,000kms so in your case that was pretty accurate. I've never really heard of somebody snapping one after less than 150k-160k kms so if u go a little bit over 100,000kms that the mechanics suggest u change it at, you should be fine.
Good to hear they last :)!!!!

Any serious damage on your engine when it snapped for you?


I snapped my one on B18A1 and got off easy didnt have to fix or change anything apart from a new belt
just before it snaped i noticed a loud whipping noise coming from the side of the motor drove down to my mechanic to have him have a look
but he closed early and then on my way back it snapped!

It snaped at low rpm when i shifted back to first from a rolling start

[TypeRice]

im getting my 100000km service tomorow to change my timing belt and other shit i dont know about..

hope its not too expensive..

[Trojan]

im getting my 100000km service tomorow to change my timing belt and other shit i dont know about..

hope its not too expensive..


won't be a cheap one thas for sure. 100k service, other than timing belt, usually u get new sparkys and they also should change your a/c belt as they already pull out the parts they need to get to both belts so they usually get 2 birds with one stone.

Think I paid 400 bucks (thas including the normal oil change etc)but i also had a broken engine bolt that the mech spent a few hours trying to take out and replace so that cost a fait bit of labour....long time ago though so best asking somebody else what the prices are like these days

[BlitZ]

won't be a cheap one thas for sure. 100k service, other than timing belt, usually u get new sparkys and they also should change your a/c belt as they already pull out the parts they need to get to both belts so they usually get 2 birds with one stone.

Think I paid 400 bucks (thas including the normal oil change etc)but i also had a broken engine bolt that the mech spent a few hours trying to take out and replace so that cost a fait bit of labour....long time ago though so best asking somebody else what the prices are like these days

sparkies are changed at every 40k and a/c belt hasnt got a service limit and doesnt ever need to be changed unless snapped, it should only ever be inspected.

[ECU-MAN]

as above,

but you inspect power steer, alternator and AC belts every service and replace them when the look bad, not a good Idea to wait for it to snap

[EuroDude]

My Civic 93' Si timing belt lasted 210,000km before I changed it (it didnt snap), and a friends 94' Gli has lasted 230,000km and still going lol

So you would be suprised how long the Genuine Honda Timing Belts last. If you change it to a non-honda timing belt to save money, I wouldnt expect it to last over 150,000km.

[NightKids]

Can anyone recommend a good place in MELB to do a 100,000km service...

[shadou]

I could even if I hate the **** that works there, pm if you want details, he usually does it cheaper than other places.

[NightKids]

Is it a authorised Honda dealer though or just mechanic cause I was after an authorised place...

[shadou]

sorry not an authorized Honda dealer but you're gonna get ass raped at one anyway for a major. You can bring genuine fluids and parts to any generic shop and they will use it.

[dmx]

just bought used odc, it's 117,000km already, and previous owner not sure if the last service has changed the belts.so i bring to non-dealer garage, he said looks like hasn't been done yet. He said, first timing belt from factory got some paint mark, and that mark still on the belt.
now, is it true ?
should i changed asap or just wait until next service due (120,000km)
???

[TypeRice]

i done my 100k service for $380 ^_^

[checkers]

I have had most quote around $400
Snapped at 122,000kms

[dmx]

i got quote for timing belt + balancer belt + altenator belt + fan belt + water pump + labour = $590.00 (all genuine honda except water pump)
good price ?

[panda[cRx]]

just bought used odc, it's 117,000km already, and previous owner not sure if the last service has changed the belts.so i bring to non-dealer garage, he said looks like hasn't been done yet. He said, first timing belt from factory got some paint mark, and that mark still on the belt.
now, is it true ?
should i changed asap or just wait until next service due (120,000km)
???

change it asap just in case.

if you buy a used car and you are unsure it is always best to replace the cambelt (some like to do the water pump at the same time for peace of mind)

there is no set time when the belts break, this is why honda recommends they are replaced every 5 years or 100,000kms (whichever occurs first)

edit: and go with a genuine water pump :)

[dmx]

;1509589']change it asap just in case.

if you buy a used car and you are unsure it is always best to replace the cambelt (some like to do the water pump at the same time for peace of mind)

there is no set time when the belts break, this is why honda recommends they are replaced every 5 years or 100,000kms (whichever occurs first)

edit: and go with a genuine water pump :)

woww.. genuine water pump is $450, after market ones only $150.00:D
friends of mine want to send me the timing belt + drive belt + water pump (all geunine) from singapore, only A$150 + shipment
but i worry would be slightly different

[mrwillz]

;1509589']change it asap just in case.

if you buy a used car and you are unsure it is always best to replace the cambelt (some like to do the water pump at the same time for peace of mind)

there is no set time when the belts break, this is why honda recommends they are replaced every 5 years or 100,000kms (whichever occurs first)

edit: and go with a genuine water pump :)

i did that
new belt in b16a2 incl rocker cover gasket and oem parts for 260 incl. ALL labour everything else.

it turned out the prev owner did change the belt but i didnt no that for sure.

[checkers]

i did that
new belt in b16a2 incl rocker cover gasket and oem parts for 260 incl. ALL labour everything else.

it turned out the prev owner did change the belt but i didnt no that for sure.

Where did you get yours done? I've been quote for $400+ & thats just the timing belt.

[dahon]

its a sad sad day when i see my odo tick over to 6 digits...
i called some places today and found it that around 400 bux is the average nowadays for replacement timing belt and plugs & labour.

[killerlaces]

I gotta change mine up now, been driving and peaking out thinking my engine bout to meet its maker.
Ya gotta change (In a lude) both the timing belt and a balance belt or something-forgot what the dude said- at the same time. costs about 400 if ya go through honda.

[dmx]

did mine finally, $600 for timing + balance + 2 drive belts (a/c + altenator ?) + water pump. all geunine except water pump.

[dahon]

doing mine on friday...
the guy wants me to replace timing seals aswell.. bah... i doubt it.. hehehe
quote i got was 400 incl balance. well see how far up it goes.. hehehe