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christofski_dc5
19-08-2011, 11:23 AM
Hi guys iv. Always wanted a n s2000, but to add a little spice to it. Where in Australia could I find a wrecked s2000 like blown motor or whatever's, so I could buy an s2000 for cheap and put a ls1 in it. After recently returning from
America and seeing this done commonly( to an extent), the setup isn't as shot as I thought it would be. It's actually pretty mad. So where could I find an s2000 shell or one been in an accident so I could begin this project?

AusS2000
19-08-2011, 11:46 AM
I think dud engine S2000s might be a little hard to find. Most see enough value in the car to rebuild/replace the engine.

Now, to the issue of V8. If you have driven and experienced an S2000 and find it to your liking I think you would find an S2000 body with a prehistoric technology overweight lump under the hood a little disappointing. No VTEC, damn not even overhead cam, let alone cams. It will be torquey but it won't rev or go round corners real well. And I'm guessing you'd have to replace the drive train as well, so no more beautiful short throw gearbox (shudder, you wouldn't go auto would you), and S2000 diff and axles would have to be replaced, either during the project, or after the first time you engage the clutch and shatter them.

But hey, I don't want to discourage you. I am all in support of you buying an S2000 with a dud engine, having it sit in you garage taking up space for a few years and then me buying it off you cheap for my electric S2000 project. ;)

trism
19-08-2011, 12:19 PM
Auss2000, ever driven a car with an ls1?

Sent from my custard cannon like Peter North.

AusS2000
19-08-2011, 12:21 PM
Yup.:wave:

http://byte.topthis.com.au/S2000/Elfinreview.mov

AusS2000
19-08-2011, 12:58 PM
http://s2000.byteserve.com.au/elfin/gallery_20204_17894_1133984155.jpg
http://s2000.byteserve.com.au/elfin/gallery_20204_17894_1133984171.jpg
http://s2000.byteserve.com.au/elfin/gallery_20204_17904_1134029291.jpg
http://s2000.byteserve.com.au/elfin/Picture(6).jpg

trism
19-08-2011, 01:02 PM
So youd agree then that its far from "a prehistoric technology overweight lump"?

Just because it doesnt have OHC and 4 valves per cylinder doesnt make it shit.

However, if iw as putting a V8 into an S2k, id go with the ls3 or the l76/l98

AusS2000
19-08-2011, 01:15 PM
So youd agree then that its far from "a prehistoric technology overweight lump"?

No, I wouldn't. Why would you assume that? You asked if I had ever driven an LS1 powered car (in order, I assume, to nullify my opinion) and I proved, beyond any reasonable doubt that I was somewhat familiar with the type we are talking about. Doesn't change my opinion, it just proves that it is one garnered from a position of experience rather than ejaculated from a custard cannon.

The LS1 has 'technology' carried over from the 60s and 70s with a complete disregard for improvements made over the last half century in engine design. It subscribes to the "no replacement for displacement" theology that only survives in this day and age because a complete ignorance of modern technology.

christofski_dc5
21-08-2011, 05:32 PM
so back to the point of this thread? anyone know where i can get an s2000 just really looking for one with a blown motor

AusS2000
21-08-2011, 05:58 PM
S2kjn knows of one.

christofski_dc5
21-08-2011, 06:01 PM
really? any more details. im super interested. wanna buy one and start the project asap.

GSi_PSi
23-08-2011, 05:23 PM
i think due to our location and the constant, "just get a v8 mate" really sinks into to people lol
f20c is a more than capable motor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c49McBCqFNM

AusS2000
23-08-2011, 05:31 PM
He he, yeah that'll do. ;)

christofski_dc5
23-08-2011, 10:36 PM
lol the turbo way however will be a more expensive route.

i mean like 10-15k for a good setup am i right.

AusS2000
23-08-2011, 11:01 PM
You think a V8 transplant including transmission, diff, and axles is gunna be cheaper?

VeYzZii
24-08-2011, 02:33 AM
lol the turbo way however will be a more expensive route.

i mean like 10-15k for a good setup am i right.

The full Turbo kits are sold for about $8000 (incl an AEM :O !!). A V8 swap will set you back atleast 30k. Regardless, I think the first step is to sell the DC5, then look for and drive some S2000s. And then maybe things will clear up on what you want to do.

s2kjn
24-08-2011, 02:04 PM
S2kjn knows of one.

haha crackhead

Davion
24-08-2011, 03:15 PM
I did saw 1 in carsales a long time back, but its long gone. Try auctions? mainheim fowles/pickles?

AusS2000
24-08-2011, 11:38 PM
haha crackhead

I was serious. Didn't you tell me of one when I told you about my electric idea?

ricerockets
25-08-2011, 12:37 AM
The full Turbo kits are sold for about $8000 (incl an AEM :O !!). A V8 swap will set you back atleast 30k. Regardless, I think the first step is to sell the DC5, then look for and drive some S2000s. And then maybe things will clear up on what you want to do.

yeah building turbo s2k atm, costing about 9k atm but not an off the shelf package

s2kjn
25-08-2011, 08:43 AM
I was serious. Didn't you tell me of one when I told you about my electric idea?

Ohh Lol - I thought u were talking about my tick tick tock engine!. Ye I searched it on google where 2 s2k's came from Japan about a month ago down here in some Western suburb in NSW. I found them thru google when I was looking for a steering rack, but can't seem to locate them anymore....Everynow and then there are a couple that to come from Japland, u just have to be on the ball, or I guess call up places like these and ask them if they expect to be shipping one.

AusS2000
25-08-2011, 08:25 PM
And it's been weeks since I last smoked crack!

GU357
25-08-2011, 09:22 PM
i thought the point of the s2000 was a light, FMR layout vehicle with good handling and a REVVY engine??

with a v8 wouldnt u lose all of that?
its not gonna be light, no way can you keep the weight distribution that the original engine gave, and it will be far from revvy.

VeYzZii
25-08-2011, 10:05 PM
i thought the point of the s2000 was a light, FMR layout vehicle with good handling and a REVVY engine??

with a v8 wouldnt u lose all of that?
its not gonna be light, no way can you keep the weight distribution that the original engine gave, and it will be far from revvy.

Im with you on that one, but some people beg to differ on the 50 50 ditribution of the S2000 with an LS in it..

curtis265
25-08-2011, 10:16 PM
The only issue i see with such a transplant is the stuffed up weight distribution

go for it. though, would be unique and i love the sound :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLEYdsQGcPI

GU357
25-08-2011, 11:59 PM
Im with you on that one, but some people beg to differ on the 50 50 ditribution of the S2000 with an LS in it..

is it possible to keep a FMR layout with an engine of such size (and weight) put in there?
i would imagine it would take up more space and therfore not fit exactly where the old one went.

still i like the idea of a 4cyl 4 stroke revving up to 9k.
that and the double wishbone suspension is the main reason im looking into buying one rather then an rx7.

GSi_PSi
26-08-2011, 01:01 AM
this sounds better than any v8 s2k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUFFudEJnjk

VeYzZii
26-08-2011, 01:57 AM
is it possible to keep a FMR layout with an engine of such size (and weight) put in there?
i would imagine it would take up more space and therfore not fit exactly where the old one went.

still i like the idea of a 4cyl 4 stroke revving up to 9k.
that and the double wishbone suspension is the main reason im looking into buying one rather then an rx7.

Yes you can still keep the FMR layout with an LS1 engine. The LS1 is about 390 pounds, the F20 (i heard) is about 330 pounds. So there is a 30 Kilo difference. Not much. But as i said, i think the idea of the S2000 is a nimble, responsive roadster with a high-revver.

GU357
26-08-2011, 02:01 AM
i love how theyve done all that to the engine, and kept the original cover on.
as if they are trying to keep it innocent ahaha, amazing output tho.

GU357
27-08-2011, 07:47 PM
Yes you can still keep the FMR layout with an LS1 engine. The LS1 is about 390 pounds, the F20 (i heard) is about 330 pounds. So there is a 30 Kilo difference. Not much. But as i said, i think the idea of the S2000 is a nimble, responsive roadster with a high-revver.

ls1 is 400
i read the f20c scales at 208 (without fly wheel, water pump, intake- but they cant weigh that much)

trism
27-08-2011, 08:07 PM
F20c is about 170kg, ls1 is about 208kg.

So about 40kg difference, which is a 10 year old kid.

Sent from my custard cannon like Peter North.

GU357
27-08-2011, 11:48 PM
how did you get the figures? looked all over for them on google. hmm
guy on honda tech said he had his measured and it was 208lb (given it was missing somethings)

foowoei69
28-08-2011, 12:26 AM
Guys..

Im waiting for someone to use a Heartly v8 in a s2k, (Google h1v8) keeps the 9k theme. :p

This is the only other motor that should go in an S2k.

I wish I could but I'm not that rich.. Haha.. anyone with deep pockets on this forum might be interested..

It's 2 hayabusa heads on a custom v8 block, revs to 9k (possibly plus). Have a few options in capacity. 2.8-3l puts out 380-500 bhp and only weighs about 90kg.. Its been developed for a few years now..

Attach it to a quaife sequential and it would be an unbeatable combo in the S.

If I'm not mistaken it's being used in the Aerial atom v8 and in the Caterham v8 Levanté.

The motor will only set u back about 30k. And the box about 15k. :p

VeYzZii
28-08-2011, 12:44 AM
how did you get the figures? looked all over for them on google. hmm
guy on honda tech said he had his measured and it was 208lb (given it was missing somethings)

208 Pounds? Maybe you getting mixed. My sources are quiet reliable. Plus minus some kilos.

VeYzZii
28-08-2011, 12:49 AM
Guys..

Im waiting for someone to use a Heartly v8 in a s2k, (Google h1v8) keeps the 9k theme. :p

This is the only other motor that should go in an S2k.

I wish I could but I'm not that rich.. Haha.. anyone with deep pockets on this forum might be interested..

It's 2 hayabusa heads on a custom v8 block, revs to 9k (possibly plus). Have a few options in capacity. 2.8-3l puts out 380-500 bhp and only weighs about 90kg.. Its been developed for a few years now..

Attach it to a quaife sequential and it would be an unbeatable combo in the S.

If I'm not mistaken it's being used in the Aerial atom v8 and in the Caterham v8 Levanté.

The motor will only set u back about 30k. And the box about 15k. :p

Whoa. Impressive.

AusS2000
28-08-2011, 05:07 PM
Impressive, but without wanting to speak for the OP $45k might be a tad more than he is budgeting for.

LEWD
30-08-2011, 10:09 PM
oh yes....

http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/gallery.php/d/323109-4/v8_powered_s2k_main.jpg

euromandeluxe
30-08-2011, 11:10 PM
that engine bay is scary clean

GU357
31-08-2011, 12:37 AM
the image looks photoshopped. everything is just so snug.

VeYzZii
31-08-2011, 12:02 PM
the image looks photoshopped. everything is just so snug.

Just some heavy ass work.

AusS2000
31-08-2011, 02:39 PM
Maybe you guys wanna hang around here:

http://v8s2000.com/

AusS2000
31-08-2011, 02:42 PM
And here's the build thread on that Corvette/S2000.

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/658942-v8-powered-s2000/

xyster
31-12-2012, 06:25 AM
And here's the build thread on that Corvette/S2000.

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/658942-v8-powered-s2000/

If you have any questions about this build ask me all about it since it is mine. Also the weight distribution is still 50/50 since the LS1 motor is only 70 lbs. heavier and most of that is in the transmission which is low and in the center of the car. The car handles just fine we track ours on road courses. Feel free to check us out on facebook at facebook/importmuscle or at www.importmuscle.com

lolmclol
01-01-2013, 07:52 AM
If you have any questions about this build ask me all about it since it is mine. Also the weight distribution is still 50/50 since the LS1 motor is only 70 lbs. heavier and most of that is in the transmission which is low and in the center of the car. The car handles just fine we track ours on road courses. Feel free to check us out on facebook at facebook/importmuscle or at www.importmuscle.com

Read through your thread, the work you did is absolutely impressive.