Facelift RB3 previewed - now with full exterior shots on pg3

[Philip Lee]

http://www.honda.co.jp/ODYSSEY/new/

Apparently changes are:

Front grill, led tail, new style wheels, new colour, new interior trim and slightly redesigned dials.

The only item of interest to me is the LED tails.....

[UNLS1]

cool! Still love the leds on the RB2.

ive got an MY11 ody lux demo at the moment, still one of my fav hondas to drive still

[Adrian128]

Phillip.. looks like those LED tails will not fit our model..note the little cut out part with the silver garnish... the current lights don't have that cut out.. hopefully it's just a cover and the whole assembly would fit..

[Philip Lee]

as far as i can see from the small pic, the outer tail lights have the same shape as ours (ie. no metal change). the inner ones have different shape but that panel is plastic and should be easily swapped for the FL version.

so i believe to change to FL LEDs, we'll need the lights and the plastic panel.

[Adrian128]

So you think that under that plastic panel the light housing extends to fill in the hole? Or would the plastic panel cover the gap left by the new light?

[Philip Lee]

The inner lights have diff shape to ours and to fit them u need the new panel (which is a whole piece of plastic that covers around the license plate etc.)

[Mobil1]

lol wtf drift king promoing for ODC http://www.honda.co.jp/ODYSSEY/impression/

[evolution]

^^^ No more Best Motoring or Hot Version, so he's got to find another way to earn money?

[Philip Lee]

That piece of dorikin has been online from launch of Rb3.

Btw Hot Version is out again.

[AusAccord]

^^ so where to DL Hot Version ah??

[tseesinngwailo]

So they get a V6 version?? why the hell doesnt Honda Aus get that for here, always see motoring reviews saying it needs more go..

[Philip Lee]

^^ so where to DL Hot Version ah??

i wanna know too lol

but more info in this site http://hot-version.jp/

[Philip Lee]

So they get a V6 version?? why the hell doesnt Honda Aus get that for here, always see motoring reviews saying it needs more go..

no they don't. it's K24 or nothing.

Absolute has a better K24 than what we get tho.

[AusAccord]

So they get a V6 version?? why the hell doesnt Honda Aus get that for here, always see motoring reviews saying it needs more go..

not even Honda Japan has V6 RB3 so how the hell Honda Aus can get that for here.....unless from Honda America then conversion but......

[St33p]

I don't speak Japanese, but did he mentioned CVT (2nd video?)

[Philip Lee]

Yes, Japanese spec RB3 non Absolute all have CVT. lucky we don't.

[tseesinngwailo]

When I looked at the link, it showed a pic of an engine and quite clearly above it was V6 , but now I look at it, I guess it says something about the 4 Cyl being the same power? still, shame they dont put the Legend V6 in one, that would be sweet...

[St33p]

Wondering why you would say lucky we don't CVT?
I thought CVT would be good for fuel economy while cruising, not very good for stop start I know (I have an Audi with CVT)
Personally I think the current gearbox doesn't match well with the engine, causing the high fuel consumption - but this is just my personal opinion.

[Philip Lee]

i had the GD Jazz which came with CVT. if you search around forum/net, i'm sure you will find many owners had problem with it.

althought our 5sp auto isn't state of the art but it's smooth and does a reasonable good job. i think it's fine and match the car. i believe the relative lack of torque + heavy chassis are the main reason for the poor fuel economy.

[UNLS1]

Wondering why you would say lucky we don't CVT?
I thought CVT would be good for fuel economy while cruising, not very good for stop start I know (I have an Audi with CVT)
Personally I think the current gearbox doesn't match well with the engine, causing the high fuel consumption - but this is just my personal opinion.

CVT is terrible. i hate driving any honda with CVT. if it stuffs up it cost alot to fix. plus it just feels gay driving with it.

[Philip Lee]

http://www.honda.co.jp/ODYSSEY/new/close-up/

Website has been updated. Will be on sale in Japan on the 6 Oct.

My personal thoughts are too much chrome so less sporty looking then pre FL...

[RSX_DC5R]

Looking nice...I am glad they didn't change the front look much as it is already very nice. Can't wait to see more pics of the rear and interior!

Does anyone know the release date for the facelift in OZ?

It would be great if they also give us the V6 option - which I doubt but hey you'll never know

[UNLS1]

i now have MY12 odys showing up on my screen i think they are arriving next month, as they have started to clear the MY11s now

[Philip Lee]

UNLS1, what are the main difference for FL in terms of equipments?

thanks

[denot]

Noob question on Ody: are our RB3 made in Japan or Thais?

[AusAccord]

all Odyssey in AUS are JDM :)

[denot]

Thanks! Nice to know that... I'm currently looking @ 7 seaters. The final 3 choices are Sorento, CX9 and Odyssey.

Never a fan of the looks of Ody, but quality might be above the Sorento, while CX9 is just too expensive to have and petrol...

[Philip Lee]

Made in Japan brand new Hondas are getting rare these days....... (only Accord Euro, Odyssey, the hybrids and Legend left).

[evolution]

Thanks! Nice to know that... I'm currently looking @ 7 seaters. The final 3 choices are Sorento, CX9 and Odyssey.

Never a fan of the looks of Ody, but quality might be above the Sorento, while CX9 is just too expensive to have and petrol...

At the risk of getting stonned by my fellow Odyssey brothers.... I'd seriously consider the Sorento.

[AusAccord]

^^ congrat you had a scratch free RB1.......

[evolution]

lol, only reason I say that is because of the diesel power that the Sorento provides..I haven't had the chance to test drive one, but I am considering it if I change cars

[Philip Lee]

If I am in the market for an SUV, I'd wait for the cx5 diesel. Not a 7 seater tho.

I still can't get myself to buy Korean.

[denot]

Will test drive both either this or next Sat. An I'll let u guys kno what i think (on a seperate thread of course)

[AusAccord]

7 seaters.... hmm.... i'll choose Hyundai i-Max

[Philip Lee]

latest FL shots taken from JDM brochure.

normal model:
http://www.postimg.com/49000/photo-48517.jpg

http://www.postimg.com/49000/photo-48518.jpg

Absolute rear:
http://www.postimg.com/49000/photo-48519.jpg

from what i can see, only exterior changes are front grill, LED tails and wheels. Absolute has clear LED tails and a round muffler tip.

[AusAccord]

Purple Absolute color with clear LED taillights is so much win!!

[evolution]

^^^ are you referring to your own car or the one in the picture above? Lol

Clear tail lights don't do anything for me... Looks like something is missing

[AusAccord]

of course FL RB3 not my cheapo :-)

[evolution]

Mate, yours is not cheapo.

[Philip Lee]

personally i prefer the red tails better but there is so little change to the FL.

also the new tails make the rear looks flatter and less sporty. there are just too much chrome now....

[Atjo]

Too much chrome on the rear.

[2k1cvc]

dont like clear rears.... looks cheap and not elegant at all

[RSX_DC5R]

just wondering if anyone knows when the FL version will hit OZ soil?

I've heard rumour saying sometime around Mar-Apr 2012 but would like to know if anyone has a more definitive answer.

[UNLS1]

early 2012

[xanctus]

Absolute one with chromie and clear tail is not a very amusing set up I reckon. But, oh well...

[Philip Lee]

Absolute one with chromie and clear tail is not a very amusing set up I reckon. But, oh well...

but we probably wont get those clear tails.

[mnaah]

what i want to know is what that chunky dial at the bottom of the centre console does on the interior shot: http://www.honda.co.jp/ODYSSEY/webcatalog/

[ryaan]

it looks like the controls for the navigation and radio just like any other honda. but i havent seen one that masssive !

[UNLS1]

we will get clear taillights.
and a whole lot of other goodies esp in the standard!

[mnaah]

yeah - i heard from a dealer that the main differences are the bumpers, lights and alloy shape with 'minor' changes to the interior trim...at least on the luxury model

does anyone know how the Japanese 'absolute' model maps to the australian market?

[UNLS1]

my bad, my12 will be avail as of december, paddle shift is in, sat nav for stnd models new econ mode also.

[Philip Lee]

Honda has finally wake up to the reality (in terms of standard equipments included).

is the sat nav still the same unit as current model???

[Philip Lee]

yeah - i heard from a dealer that the main differences are the bumpers, lights and alloy shape with 'minor' changes to the interior trim...at least on the luxury model

does anyone know how the Japanese 'absolute' model maps to the australian market?

i can't see any bumpers change between pre FL and FL. unless we have a special version......

[AusAccord]

my bad, my12 will be avail as of december, paddle shift is in, sat nav for stnd models new econ mode also.

hmmm....... paddle shift and econ mode get me thinking now............ oh wait, its from Honda Australia.... price will be "nice" then

[mnaah]

will anyone really use paddle shifts on an odyssey?

[mnaah]

i can't see any bumpers change between pre FL and FL. unless we have a special version......

sorry - at least more chrome in both the front and rear...perhaps he said the more general 'front and rear' and I just translated as bumpers. It is more than just the lights though

[AusAccord]

will anyone really use paddle shifts on an odyssey?

anyone = me, not paddle on RB1 but flipper

[evolution]

Honda has finally wake up to the reality (in terms of standard equipments included).

is the sat nav still the same unit as current model???

^^^ Along the same line of questions... Is it the aftermarket unit or the true JDM Navi unit that is built into the dash?

[jayjayjayjay]

Looks like it has already been released. The Drive Car (people mover) of the year site has pictures of it. Even has the eco button and navigation as standard.

http://news.drive.com.au/drive/car-of-the-year/drive-car-of-the-year-2011-best-peoplemover-winner-20111122-1ns7s.html

[jayjayjayjay]

From the pictures, appears to be the same "aftermarket" unit that the Insight and pre facelift lux odyssey had...

[Philip Lee]

It looks like a good improvement with good spec and price.

But the new rear is meh (even with the LED lights)!!!