Suggestion mods/help!

[FoShizz]

So im thinking of putting these in my dc5r,
- Extractors
- CAI
- Coilovers
- Sway bars

I am going for speed, acceleration, and handling, so need to know which extractos, cai, coilovers, and sway bar best suit for what i am aiming to achieve.

I already have an exhaust on it so dnt need to worry too much about that yet.. i think lol
I am going to do a port polish, service on car, and check up on engine seals etc before i add any of these mods but would just like to get a head up atm kinda thing coz id like to get all the mods on asap :D

Any other suggestions on what i can do or add?

Any help is greatly appreciated! thanks heaps in advance :D

[FoShizz]

Oh and what price am i roughly going to be looking at for each mod?

[Super-DA9]

for prices have a look in the dealer and parts for sale on this website, you're bound to find what your looking for at a decent price.

port and polish I'm not sure the price of but it'll be expensive to pay someone to do as the head will need to be pulled off.

CAI I'd go Injen, has the best sound and gains at a decent price IMO.

Swaybars I like whiteline, but if you want to go pretty extreme I'm pretty sure hardrace make some thick-ass ones.

Headers and Coilovers completely depend on your budget. I'm sure some of the DC5 guys here could give you some advice from first-hand experience. :)

I also suggest adding a hondata KPro + Tune to that list if you want to get the most out of your power mods.

[Indie]

I am going for speed, acceleration, and handlingWhat else?

[FoShizz]

thats pretty much it? not gna go as far as doing things like weight reduction taking out teh air con etc LOl and for looks all im gna do is change the seats to blue recaros and take out the bucket seats, get blue car mats, and put HID lights.
but yeah im open to all suggestions anyway what do u suggest?

btw nice integra in ur dp ;)

[DakDak]

Be wary HID's in stock DC5R headlights have terrible splash. You'll be blinding people on the road and that is not what you want. I have Silvers Neomax coilovers. I like them alot.

[FoShizz]

ahhh ok maybe i wont get hid lights then thanks for that man
silvers neomax coilovers? are they expensive? i was thinking BC coilovers are they any good?

[Super-DA9]

ahhh ok maybe i wont get hid lights then thanks for that man
silvers neomax coilovers? are they expensive? i was thinking BC coilovers are they any good?

BC are great bang for buck man, but I've heard that the DC5 ones have a tendancy to squeak on the rear? not sure if it's just while they're wearing in but a lot of guys with DC5's have said that. :S

[FoShizz]

ahh ok hmm.. DakDak have u had any of those issues or anything with silvers neomax coilovers? btw how much kw gain and acceleration gain am i looking at with injen cai, extractors, and an ecu

[prizedbnx]

The BC coil overs are constructed in the same factory as GReddy, although they are not Japanese made, they are still pretty well made, considering their cost, I tend to buy a higher range of suspension parts, but if your looking for Bang for Buck they will suit you fine.

Have you thought about a good shock and spring combo, or would you prefer the height to remain a variable?

Cheers

[DakDak]

Nope ! They are good. Noticeablely stiffer but no squeaks or noises. about after 3 weeks of having them on the coilovers dropped about half a cm which is normal. So Im gonna fix that up again and ill be all sweet [ i hate excessively low cars]. You made need shortened tie rods or something similar for the front end though. As you will need to rectify some serious wheel alignment issues if you lower the car alot. I have these, its because of the DC5R's unusual design in comparison to other Hondas. I also have a rear camber kit aswell. You will not need this again unless you lower the car alot and need help fixing excessive camber.

In terms of a CAI, extractors and ECU. Dont expect a night and day difference. There will be some more oompf definitely and on a dynodynamics I'd say if you got a CAi+headers+cat+catback you'd see around 116-118 atw on a dynodynamics dyno. So I imagine with a ecu to properly tune all that even more.

You can buy Kpros on ozhonda. But then you will have to turn your immobilizer light off as the ECU did not come from your engine and it will continually flash on your dash until you remove the trash and disconnect it or but a black sticker on it like me =]. You can use your own but that requires you taking it out shipping it over there then they work their magic and ship it back. Which would be better but you wont be able to drive around.

Have you looked into a heavy duty clutch, lower final drives or a lightened flywheel?. They will make you faster than a CAI+headers+Kpro combo. But make daily driving abit of a pain in the arse

[FoShizz]

ahhh ok, hmm whats lower final drives? and waht does a light weight flywheel do? i hear so much about it but never really understand what it actually does etc

[DakDak]

ahhh ok, hmm whats lower final drives? and waht does a light weight flywheel do? i hear so much about it but never really understand what it actually does etc

A final drive is the final gear/cog before power is applied to the differential, driveshafts and then to the wheels
lowering this ratio will lower your gearing and give quicker acceleration.
Why it is good - Better acceleration cause of mulitplied torque
Why it can be a pain in the arse - Fuel consumption will rise, max speed in each gear is reduced.

Attached to the engine is a huge heavy metal disk which is the flywheel. How fast something accelerates depends on how heavy it is. With a lightened flywheel you will be able to rev lot quicker, as the flywheel is alot lighter. Spiriting driving, heel toeing will be really easy.. Downsides are that as soon as you ease of the gas revs will drop notibly faster so daily driving sucks. This is cause the flywheel is lighter so it loses momentum fast in comparison to a heavier flywheel which will slow down slower does to its weight.

[45SET]

Buy my Tein SS coilovers...

[gitgit]

I think if you want to serious HP should just change the bottom end to a K24 and someone to tune it with a hondata :)

[Indie]

thats pretty much it? not gna go as far as doing things like weight reduction taking out teh air con etc LOl and for looks all im gna do is change the seats to blue recaros and take out the bucket seats, get blue car mats, and put HID lights.
but yeah im open to all suggestions anyway what do u suggest?

btw nice integra in ur dp ;)Haha, nah, I was joking. It's just funny that you say you're modding for speed, acceleration and handling, because that's most of the attributes of a car! But I guess you can also mod for looks or ride comfort or something as well, so fair enough. Hope it all goes well for you! Thanks, I haven't done much to mine yet, but it'll get there oneday!

[jbettridge4]

I own an 05 type s with Buddy Club racing coilovers whiteline sway bars and cusco strut braces etc etc.
I have not tried tein or any other coilover manufactures but i love mine. Handles like you would not believe :) completely adjustable ride height and if you do alot of daily driving you can make them slightly softer or if you go to the track harder. depending on how low you go i would suggest a camber kit as well..
In terms of power i'd go for toda. really high quality. I have the straight tail exhaust and extractors with high flow cat. They are expensive but they sound great- Nice and crisp, not overly loud- unless you hit vtec. As for cold air intake, i'd go with a Mugen or Gruppem Ram intake. Because the filters are closed they are alot quieter :thumbsup: with good overall performance gains. Trust me when i say an open filter CAI like injen is very loud :) but if thats what you want go for it its just my opinion.
ECU- to get the full potential of these mods you need a good ecu. I'd go either Hondata or what i have- Haltech platinum pro. This depends on what shop your planing on taking your car too.I've had issues with shops before so take it somewhere that has experience with hondas. Haltech's are a little harder to tune from what i've been told. I went with them because there are more haltech tuners than hondata. There are in qld anyway....

Intake manifold- I have an RRC intake manifold - from an fd2 type r- installed not long ago. I love it. Made the car alot more responsive with a little more top end power for a relatively low price. around $400 will get you one. Can't go past OEM. this particular manifold is designed to give you more power in the high rpm range....

Throttle bodies are a waste of time unless you get cams and head work done. They are expensive and dont really produce any results on stock engines. I have an accord CL7 larger throttle body on mine, but im one day planning on upgrading the head.
All these mods only gave me just over 135kw at the wheels. A 25kw increase... Made it alot more responsive and a little more powerful but nothing extreme. Your not going to get alot of hp out of these engines... If you want power go a turbo.

Hope this has helped you buddy. all the best modding your car....

[dougie_504]

Don't do port + polish unless you're doing the whole head build, cams and valvetrain mate. Otherwise you're joking.

Don't forget to buy a 100cel cat converter and a cat-back exhaust to complement your header.


HD clutch and lightweight flywheel will also add some acceleration and feel to the drive.

[FoShizz]

dude seriously u guys have been so much help! I heard injen cai make u lose low end power? yeah i wont get a port polish then lol but still gna get a mechanic to service it and have a look at the engine seals just to be safe that its not leaking anywhere. btw whats a 100cel cat converter?

[DakDak]

Cars have this thing called a cataytic converter, which is part of the exhaust. Its job is to remove bad poisonous stuff that your car breathes out and convert into something safer. [ i dont know what so dont ask] but by doing this it impairs exhaust flow. Catalytic converters or "Cat" for short are graded by 'cel' on on how restrictive they are. There is 100 cel - [less restrictive], 200 cel 300 cel etc. Your stock catalytic converter is designed to be as environmentally friendly as possible. So it is very restrictive.

[FoShizz]

ahhh ok i have an exhaust on my dc5r and on the exhaust it has says xforce i think? i didnt put it on so i have no idea what the actual exhaust is, if it has a cat converter on it already etc. sounds really nice though, doof doof but very nice sound.

[Super-DA9]

if the whole exhaust is stainless steel (or at least the cat-back) then the rest of it is probably xforce too. I like my xforce system :)

[FoShizz]

are they any good?

[Super-DA9]

you can always go for the big brands if you've got the money, but Xforce is great bang for buck.

[45SET]

xforce headers on the DC5R are shit... like... really shit... worse then stock shit.

Otherwise the cat backs are ok...

[FoShizz]

lol wth really? why is that? what headers/extractors do u suggest i should get?

[Super-DA9]

xforce headers on the DC5R are shit... like... really shit... worse then stock shit.

Otherwise the cat backs are ok...

Oh ok, I own a DC2 and my xforce headers are good. I guess they must not have put much thought into the DC5 ones then :S

[dougie_504]

Got XForce on DC4. Great fitment/quality. Perform well too. Cheap!

[FoShizz]

Btw guys, what should be the pipe diameter of Injen CAI be? im thinking of using the injen pipe but changing the pod to a bmc pod filter

[dougie_504]

Get 3". Screw anything smaller IMO.