Introducing my 06 CL9 --- *updated

[shmivic]

There has been a few people posting their Euro thread's here so i thought i'd share mine too.

The car is constantly in development and has been a platform iv'e really enjoyed working with over the last 3 years since i bought it stock from the dealership.

So here goes

NHBP 2006 6MT CL9 "Lux"

Exterior
Genuine Euro R front + rear lips
Genuine Mugen Grill
Genuine Mugen Visors
FLP CF boot lip
De-badged boot
6% window tint
Noyka 2300k foggie globes
Yellow lamin-x foglight film
LED parkers
Enkei RPF Type RC two-piece rims 18x8.5+38 F/R
Kuhmo KU-36 225/40R18 F/R
Work RS wheel nuts in black

Suspension
Spoon full-spec coilovers
Spoon front camber arms
Spoon front zero bump
Spoon rear camber arms
Spoon rear toe arms
Progress RSB and custom made solid steel plate end links
J's front strut brace

Engine
K24A3
Hondata K-Pro + K-Tuned harness
Gruppe M CF SRI
Hondata I.M gasket
T.B coolant bypass
Toda race header
Toda test pipe
Toda 40 degree VTC intake cam gear
Fujitsubo Legalis R cat back
J's Oil cap
J's radiator cap
J's ETD
J's SPL valve cover
Optima 35A yellow top dry cell deep cycle
HKS circle earth system - tucked
DC5R 1st / 2nd / 3rd / 4th gears + 4.765 final drive
OEM 5th + 6th gear
Wavetrac LSD

Interior
Lux pack - all the heated and electric goodies
Mugen short shifter
Spoon Duracon 6sp gear knob
Innovate DB wideband AF/R meter
Sticker-bombed cubby panel
Rockford Fosgate 12" sub + Rockford Box
Alpine Digital monoblock 600Wx2 channel amp
Alpine Digital 600Wx6 channel amp
CDT Audio front 6.5" splits
CDT Audio rear door 6.5" splits
CDT Audio 6x9 Parcel shelf 3-way coaxials

These photo's are not current but the most recent ones i have.

If i get some free time some day i will update my images.

Enjoy


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[MingZai]

your from perth correct :( UR CAR IS SEX omg....

What's your power at wheels?

What's the Hondata specs?? Like which ECU is it currently running?

[longers]

engine bay shots?!?!?!? :D

[marquee]

Your car has been saved in my phone for months its what line will look like hopefully

[d_evilz]

looks so niceeeeee!

[shmivic]

your from perth correct :( UR CAR IS SEX omg....

What's your power at wheels?

What's the Hondata specs?? Like which ECU is it currently running?

Yet to be fully tuned on dyno. Searching for a good tuner in Perth is hard. + I'm waiting on some important fuelling components to come.

For Hondata, I'm using stock OEM ECU with K-tuned dual harness and an RSX-S PRB ECU with the K-Pro upgrades.


engine bay shots?!?!?!? :D

This arvo.


Your car has been saved in my phone for months its what line will look like hopefully

Thanks


looks so niceeeeee!

Thanks

[MingZai]

How's the fuel consumption with the K-tuned dual harness? any idle issues and worth your money?

[npcan2]

Holy shit! Hardcore build man. Massive respect!
With the different gear ratios, wont your speedo be out quite significantly?

[k24]

seen this from TSXCLUB

[shmivic]

How's the fuel consumption with the K-tuned dual harness? any idle issues and worth your money?

Fuel consumption is better actually, Zero issues at all with the Harness, K-tuned lets you adjust idle speed in the K-manager software.
Worth the $$$$ for sure.


Holy shit! Hardcore build man. Massive respect!
With the different gear ratios, wont your speedo be out quite significantly?

Yep but only by a small amount. Not that it bothers me anyway.


seen this from TSXCLUB

Ya

[MR_LATE]

all i can say is









































































wowowowowowowowoowowowowowowowowoowowowowowowoowwo woo so nice





maybe fix the glove box?

[shmivic]

^yes!

it has been bothering me since i bought the car.

At the moment though it's useful, lets my usb cable hang thru nice for K-pro lol

[shmivic]

Obligatory engine bay pictures,

I really couldn't be bothered getting my tripod/trigger out because my garage is pretty dark around this time of day, so sorry if the pics aren't great.
It's been a long weekend at work lol.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk172/siwood22/_MG_1106.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk172/siwood22/_MG_1101.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk172/siwood22/_MG_1099.jpg

Still undecided on the J's SPL cover, i have my OEM one at work. I might give it a coat in crinkle red and see how that looks.

[longers]

NICE! i thought the j's cover was more teal-ish

[wuism]

My speedo reads about 115-120kmph when my mate next to me is doing 100kmph with dc5r ratios and 4.7FD

[MingZai]

whoaaaaaaaaa crazyy purple wiresss I LIKE IT :D

[curtis265]

looks good man, loved ur car at rising sunday :)

[MR_LATE]

lol nice!!

[vteccoupe]

hawt! sexy ride sexy driver lol

[Phorist]

wow, you gotta be one of the only guys in australia with full spoon handling package, all you need is the front strut brace!!!

what did you do with your tanabe?

[shmivic]

NICE! i thought the j's cover was more teal-ish

In the sun it's pretty Teal-ish, looks almost purple at night.


My speedo reads about 115-120kmph when my mate next to me is doing 100kmph with dc5r ratios and 4.7FD

Seems pretty right William, According to K-pro I'm +18km/hour at 100km/hr.
Need to research a new speedo pickup.


looks good man, loved ur car at rising sunday :)

Was your's the white CL9?


hawt! sexy ride sexy driver lol

UHHHHH Vinson you do it for me too La!!


wow, you gotta be one of the only guys in australia with full spoon handling package, all you need is the front strut brace!!!

what did you do with your tanabe?

One of them is leaking so they back in the box lol.
Looking into getting an Ultra-racing "clean sweep" bracing package shortly.... Amongst other things.
Changing jobs soon so i now have to buy a daily. Sigh

[Rein]

Niceeee... Quality parttss!!!

[shmivic]

Niceeee... Quality parttss!!!

That's what it's all about IMO.

You want to buy your rims back?!! LOL

[shmivic]

*UPDATE
Oh hey Hannah!

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk172/siwood22/nyan-cat.jpg

nyan nyan nyan nyan

Have lost my mind lately and been secretly buying parts for the next phase of performance for the car and thought it's time to update the thread with what's on it's way in the next few months.
Was going to hold out on updating until i'm bolting everything up and it's been tuned but that's another post later on.

As far as the Hondata ecu setup was going, it's all up and running with no drama's for the last few months but i haven't yet decided on a tuner, When the time comes i'll get Joel from Driven in Singapore to fly out and do it.

April 2011

My car hadn't moved out of the garage in months so i kept a Sunday free to take it for a run.
Unfortunately for me, when i returned home i noticed a fluid leak at the rear of the car... A nice oily one, FML somethings wrong.
jacked car up and found that the Tanabe coil over on the drivers side has begun to leak... Shit's got less than 5000km on them!

Replacement time, Since i already had a full set of genuine Spoon arms under there i thought it logical to get the coil over designed to work best with them

*note, these aren't my photo's.
Just ones off net for ease as i can never be bothered getting my camera out when stuff arrives

Spoon Full-spec coil over system (F12k R8k)
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk172/siwood22/full-spec-damper-kit-1290435613.jpg

Their in and a lot harder than the previous ones and I'm glad i have comfy seats or else my spine would be f**ked

What started in May 2011

Sold my NA parts which eventually arrived and went a different route

The boost route

Iv'e had many built NA Honda's in the past but they were all light hatchie's.. Not a 1390kg luxo barge.

Comptech supercharger kit to suit 06 CL9 manual with 3.15" (8psi) pulley.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk172/siwood22/i-955bca5b-3e6b-46a4-bdf2-9e8f5fbf4db9-800.jpg

The tensioner's supplied with the kit are junk apparently so i opted for the MercRacing billet Auto-tensioner which relocates the OEM power steering pump and uses the stock Honda tensioner. Not only does that stop belt slip/shredding it let's me keep my J's Racing ETD

MercRacing tensioner bracket

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk172/siwood22/bracket.jpg

Fair enough having a nice whiney blower is ok but what about reliability and cooling?

Bring in the Snow Performance stage 3 water/meth injection system.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk172/siwood22/202ffd45ba37106ac80807456e7c.jpg

I originally got the stage 2, but for ease of tuning and safety i upgraded to the stage 3 which has a nice little digital controller which lets me use a 2-stage linear injection (2 nozzle) mapped directly from boost pressure/fuel injector duty cycle + rpm as-well as the "safejection" module to notify me when the juice is getting low in the tank and will automatically switch ecu maps back to a safer tune along with visual/audible warnings.

Speaking of injectors, the Injector Dynamics 725cc items

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk172/siwood22/ID725-K.jpg

I got these with Teal coloured seats to match the J's SPL valve cover.

Chemical cooling is great for 60%-WOT but what about just daily use?

MercRacing Aftercooler kit with remote fill tank and upgraded Bosch pump

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk172/siwood22/CTAftercoolerKitwithBosh.jpg

So cooling, Fuelling are covered. What about ignition?

Okada Projects coil packs.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk172/siwood22/pd4002701r1.jpg

$150 more than OEM coil packs and a lot better.

So that's where it's at currently, So keen for all this stuff to arrive and to get into fitting it all up + tuning.

The Toda 40deg VTC intake cam gear i fitted when doing the valve cover and suspension.

Planning on moving the battery to the boot and using the space for an oil catch can and for the after cooler remote filler.
All this should be done over the next 3-odd months hopefully but I'm changing jobs and need to get a daily for the new one as i won't have a company car anymore.
+ I'm buying another house which i hope has a shed where i can plug away with it un-disturbed so it may be more like 6 months until tuning time.

Obligatory current engine bay pic:

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk172/siwood22/_MG_1101.jpg


Enjoy

[longers]

O.m.g

[Rein]

OMG... "speechless" did you win a lotto recently?

[shmivic]

lol nah i just work hard and save my cash!

All up it's around the same cost as your bags/rims combo!

[boleh]

WOW...

Take extreme care of this car and keep it for at least 17 years

[shmivic]

WOW...

Take extreme care of this car and keep it for at least 17 years

It does less than 1000km/year, I'm pretty sure it's gonna stay fresh for a long time.

[h17am]

wah supercharger... BALLAAA

[MR_LATE]

just shat and jizzed in my pants...nuff said

[cheapdouchebag]

Wicked to see ur reppin the euro's in the performance scene. Major Props to you OP
Well played

[marquee]

Soon to be 2 euros with superchargers did you get it cheaper because you didnt need the flash

[shmivic]

No I paid for the flash acm module (flash module) even though I don't need it at all because I wanted the CT warranty.
That ACM module is going straight into the bin

[marquee]

Lol sweet one so you bought the whole kit and replacing belts and using kpro?

[shmivic]

Well all the separate kits designed to work together. Bought 3 spare belts just incase I ever need one.

Tuning with K-pro

[Rein]

man, you make me want to buy a supercharger.... but my car is Auto. is it worth doing? the only thing is, i dont know much about engine performance. im a complete noob.

[curtis265]

haha nah i own a dirty prelude.

[marquee]

man, you make me want to buy a supercharger.... but my car is Auto. is it worth doing? the only thing is, i dont know much about engine performance. im a complete noob.

Depends if you wanna go faster lol. I say yes to supercharger but auto not so sure our autos are pretty dodgey

[Fredoops]

Depends if you wanna go faster lol. I say yes to supercharger but auto not so sure our autos are pretty dodgey

not pretty dodgy, just not designed for high-stress..... or high torque....... or high temperature operations.

[marquee]

You say tomato i say tamato

[MingZai]

I might go supercharger route as well but I was planning to sell the Auto Euro first and rather do it on a manual. If your going to supercharge an auto euro I would suggest to drive semi auto (with the tiptronic shift)

[shmivic]

man, you make me want to buy a supercharger.... but my car is Auto. is it worth doing? the only thing is, i dont know much about engine performance. im a complete noob.

For an auto i'd say no, spend the cash on bling instead!


I might go supercharger route as well but I was planning to sell the Auto Euro first and rather do it on a manual. If your going to supercharge an auto euro I would suggest to drive semi auto (with the tiptronic shift)

Anyone can buy a blower and bolt it on, but if you want to do it right you will need all the supporting hardware.
Add it all up and you could easily buy a B18C EG civic.

I just wanted something different this time around.

[h17am]

eh you're balla 2dmax man...

[boleh]

or how about buying a brand new FN2R for $39k d/away? Hehe.

[marquee]

Fn2r isnt that good civic lost my support after fd2r euro with supercharger is awesome i think but agree totally that you need the right parts

[Kona]

very nice man love it ! can i ask where u got your euro r front and back lip from ?

[adis]

With all those parts mentioned, and tune, what sort of KW figures are you expecting and hoping for if i can ask? -)

[shmivic]

very nice man love it ! can i ask where u got your euro r front and back lip from ?

JDMConcept, Leo bent over backwards for them, Although when you buy the lips you Don't get the mounting hardware to fit them
That i ordered from honda myself after putting a extensive list together. Which i then forwarded to Leo for future sales.


With all those parts mentioned, and tune, what sort of KW figures are you expecting and hoping for if i can ask? -)

You can ask, but I'm not going to put an expected figure on it.
What ever it makes, it makes.

But if doesn't break 300whp i'll burn the bitch!

[MingZai]

Anyone can buy a blower and bolt it on, but if you want to do it right you will need all the supporting hardware.
Add it all up and you could easily buy a B18C EG civic.

I just wanted something different this time around.[/QUOTE]

That's true and if I even wanted I could just sell my Euro and get a DC5R or S2000 for speed but for the time being I just like my Euro :) thus keeping it for now haha.

[ajphillips92]

im in perth man, hoping i see this on the road soon, trying to get mine as far from stock as possible as quick as i can, modded euros are rare in perth it seems havent seen any

[shmivic]

Supercharger is going on tomorrow (Monday) I'm DIY on it all so will be taking pics for a write up too.

Have to call all-star tomorrow too and organize a basic "safe tune" for later this week to so I can drive it around no sweat.
God bless K-tuned and Hondata

As far as I know, there is only 2 more extensively modded Euro's in WA.

[curtis265]

how exciting!

will keep an eye out.

[MingZai]

shmviiccc my idolll <3 LOL what ECU / tuning you going to be running?

[ajphillips92]

ill try and get mine to be the 3rd then haha, will take a while and no chance of making turbo, gonna just have to get my gains for CAI, headers, catback and tune lol

[marquee]

shmviiccc my idolll <3 LOL what ECU / tuning you going to be running?

His got a ktuned harness running KPro

[shmivic]

ill try and get mine to be the 3rd then haha, will take a while and no chance of making turbo, gonna just have to get my gains for CAI, headers, catback and tune lol

You will be surprised Andrew just how much the car changes with just those.

With IHE and stock map in the Kpro the car it's totally different.

[marquee]

what figures did you achieve with the base map?

[Rein]

cant wait to see the SC. would like to know the 0-100km/h time between stock and supercharged.

[ajphillips92]

ah that is good news then, am even more keen now to buy the headers asap haha, rims cant wait for a while i think, ill stick to the ugly 16 stockies

[ekay1]

One of the finest euro's i have come across

[shmivic]

what figures did you achieve with the base map?

Car hasnt seen a dyno yet, estimated whp would be around the 200 mark currently.


One of the finest euro's i have come across

Thanks

[MingZai]

cant wait to see the SC. would like to know the 0-100km/h time between stock and supercharged.

I think I saw some TSX's were like high 5's and really really low 6's

[GSPOTR]

omg - sex.

[shmivic]

Well managed to get the stock intake manifold off, radiator out and flushed, Aftercooler core mounted and plumbed along with the CT SC manifold fitted today.

All that's left for tomorrow is to fit the new tensioner/belt and bolt the blower to its manifold.

Should be boosting tomorrow night

[ajphillips92]

how much psi r u goin to be runnin

[marquee]

8psi he has the 3.15 pulley i think

[ajphillips92]

so glad your in perth shmivic, cant wait till its done defs keen to check it out, and for you to give my mates rex's a run, sick of them talking shit all the time

[marquee]

so glad your in perth shmivic, cant wait till its done defs keen to check it out, and for you to give my mates rex's a run, sick of them talking shit all the time

It wont beat a worked wrx. With al the other additions he may get 220kw i would think. Good figure for a euro though mind you. Great woork.

You going to upgrade to 3" exhaust

[ajphillips92]

will come close no doubt, id be stoked with that power

[shmivic]

Should be around 265kw once properly tuned, keep in mind the car runs a decent amount of methanol too.

Upgrade to 3" one day, I like my quiet exhaust lol

[ryaan]

Should be around 265kw once properly tuned, keep in mind the car runs a decent amount of methanol too.

Upgrade to 3" one day, I like my quiet exhaust lol

265kw....cant wait

[marquee]

Should be around 265kw once properly tuned, keep in mind the car runs a decent amount of methanol too.

Upgrade to 3" one day, I like my quiet exhaust lol

Mines super quiet and is 3"

[marquee]

howd you go with the install man

[shmivic]

It's all on, belts done, Aftercooler done, fluids filled etc.

Raining pretty hard here today so I stopped at 2.

All that's left for tomorrow is to connect fuel line, power steering hose and re-terminate the wires for pump, water temp sender.

Been sitting inside all arvo working on my ecu maps.

[marquee]

Woa your too smart for your own good.

Wish i could do my maps

[shmivic]

Well cars mechanically sound, zero issues with the kit/install.

Actually easier to do than a header swap.

Been working on the tune today, started off by setting a "over boost cutoff" at 2psi.
Drove around and data logged, came home and adjusted the fuel/ignition tables across 0-40deg cam advance to remove any high arse AF/R spikes (at one point I got 16.4:1!!!!! Super lean)

Partial throttle is now safe, idle is 14.0:1, cruise at light throttle is 13.0:1

Tomorrow I'll slowly increase my boost cut a point at a time and tune each point until I get to the 10psi boost level @7500rpm.

Have been surprised how easy K-pro is to tune on the street alone. Every tuner in Perth backs away from Hondata for some reason. (their homo)

See how it goes!

[marquee]

Are you just going to tune it yourself?

[jzx_andy]

haha simon when you open up a hondata tuning shop in perth let us know :P

[shmivic]

A little, Pro tuner is due in Perth early March.

All I'm trying to do is make it very safe to drive until then.

[shmivic]

When you buy Kpro/Ktuned I'll install it for you ;)

[marquee]

A little, Pro tuner is due in Perth early March.

All I'm trying to do is make it very safe to drive until then.

Yer fair enough then. Nice work man.

[snYpz]

Cant you just work of base maps and adust it from there.
My k-tuned k-pro should be ready soon since they're reflashing the core atm.
Shmivic, maybe you can drive over to Sydney and have your car tuned, and while you're here you can also install my k-pro while you're here? :P hehe

[marquee]

Cant you just work of base maps and adust it from there.
My k-tuned k-pro should be ready soon since they're reflashing the core atm.
Shmivic, maybe you can drive over to Sydney and have your car tuned, and while you're here you can also install my k-pro while you're here? :P hehe

Kpro base tune is for basic mods i/h/e. Wont work well with forced induction with that much air coming not enough fuel engine bye bye. But for basic mods base rune is sweet

[shmivic]

Partially correct Snypz, hondata supply a plethora of different base maps to suit a wide combination of engine combos.
All are pre-loaded in K-manager software too. Download it off Hondata website and have a look thru it all.

Mine ran sweet as with all the NA Parts and an untouched TSX basemap for months.

I started with the CTSC 5psi hondata base map because it seemed to start the car better than the rest.

I found it to be very lean at low rpm, so I started from there and worked my way thru.

Boosts very strong and safe now. Cars completely different!

[Phorist]

Boosts very strong and safe now. Cars completely different!

Doesn't surprise me that the car is completely different somehow :p

[shmivic]

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk172/siwood22/photo.jpg

[UR34DY]

dammm very sexy, did you loose your power steering and aircon when installing the sc?

[shmivic]

Nope, all that stuffs as it left the factory.

#1 reason why I didn't use the Rotrex kit

[marquee]

Drive to melbourne so i can feel the powa lol

[Razer]

thats one small ass battery simon, can it handle your sound system?

[shmivic]

It's fine Ray, there is an Optima yellow top hiding in the boot too

[vaikis]

nice mods, but you need better tune for K-Pro ;)

[shmivic]

^ as stated in previous posts, Professional Hondata tuner coming to Perth early March.

My current DIY tune is nice and safe for the time being.

[vaikis]

^ as stated in previous posts, Professional Hondata tuner coming to Perth early March.

My current DIY tune is nice and safe for the time being.

I can recommend you one very good e-tuner from http://flashprotuning.com/, search guy with nickname VitViper. It has very good reputation accross all USA and even Europe, you just provide him 3 gear WOT logs (start in 3rd gear from 2000 rpm and hit till floor when you reach rev limiter) and he do tune for you. And it cost only 200 USD ;)

[shmivic]

Thats pretty much what I've been doing myself, as well as alot of partial throttle off boost tuning.

Honestly it's going well, a little rich on startup but otherwise it's ok for know.
Thanks though.

I see your another one who saw the light and forgot Flashpro and went a "proper" ecu combination!

[MingZai]

props for you seriously shmivic!

This is what I'm talking about....

real enthusiasm for the car and showing everyone the cars potential haha

[shmivic]

Ming I've been building Hondas for a long time, all DIY and close
To ten years now.
The euro is one of the top Honda platforms to base a build from once you research the chassis/suspension/engine and aero.

I have OCD when it comes to genuine rare, quality JDM parts. Most importantly the part that are proven ie: Toda/spoon/mugen.

Just my opinion but it's the only way to build any car .

[MingZai]

I agree,
ATM I'm building up a J's Racing Accord Euro but probably going to take my time as I have to transition to a new euro base soon (as this euro I have atm aint staying long).
So far got the good old bolt ons done already but holding off on the header as the K20 headers we have to modify the subframe...
How are your spoon coilovers?? Might be going for the calipers and coilovers soon and mugen will only be the aero parts for me haha don't really like the mugen performance for the euro...

[jzx_andy]

leet pic

sounded so nice when you left last meet mang :) does it spin 2nd? :P

[shmivic]

"did" spin 2nd/3rd

Stock clutch has decided to start slipping today at anything above 2psi :(

Time to do the clutch/fly/gearbox FML

[HondaRacer]

nice mods ;)

[marquee]

What clutch you and fly wheel combo you thinking

[shmivic]

Toda...

[marquee]

Nice i got excedy its good but definatly need something a bit heavier for more power. Do they make one for our euro or is it the k20 one

[wuism]

Get carbonetics.... U won't regret it...

[shmivic]

Ive been offered an Exedy Hyper carbon series, single plate. will give it a go.

Should be able to handle power

[Bigpauly2788]

How many KW ATW did your car make shmivic ??

[marquee]

It hasnt been dyno tuned or on a dyno afaik. Expected 250+

[Butso]

sooo niceeeeeeeeeee

[shmivic]

Cars been tuned,

Clutch slipped its way to 278hp @ 7500rpm with 6psi registered.
Torque is at 296nm at 3000rpm then holds steady to 5000. After that it drops due to clutch.

Tuners estimates there is 20odd hp waiting in clutch and 3" exh.

Still yet to get to 10psi and methanol injection.

[ChaosMaster]

Damn, nice. Wish I had that kinda budget. Now time to find the wining lottery ticket.

[marquee]

Jtunes exhaust is three inch

[shmivic]

Jtunes ok, I'd rather a custom piece.

My thoughts are to get the Fujitsubo power drainer re-made as a 3" item.

[shmivic]

Should mention here the final figures I made with stock bottom end, (7600rpm) and 40deg vtc, 8psi and water/methanol injection was 386whp/ 338nm

[TheSaint]

man i wish i got to see this before it got parted =(

[axispower]

Goat cl9

[shmivic]

http://i.imgur.com/rvV0DAE.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Q3XxfrA.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/nFJudgY.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/nrJW4lz.jpg

[TheSaint]

so ... much ... win ....