Replacing Engine mounts on B16a

[Mikecivic78]

After a bit of googling and searching this forum, I am yet find a guide for replacing engine mounts.

Is it a dooble DIY? I prefer to do things myself if I can.

Thanks in advance

Mike

[TbM]

After a bit of googling and searching this forum, I am yet find a guide for replacing engine mounts.

Is it a dooble DIY? I prefer to do things myself if I can.

Thanks in advance

Mike

Is it for your Em1? if so i have a service manual you can down load which should have the info in it. The rear one is the hardest to get to but once you have done it once its alot easier. If your competent with mechanics then its very doable, i have taken mine off my ek and it was easy just took some time.

[Mikecivic78]

Is it for your Em1? if so i have a service manual you can down load which should have the info in it. The rear one is the hardest to get to but once you have done it once its alot easier. If your competent with mechanics then its very doable, i have taken mine off my ek and it was easy just took some time.

Thanks bro, it's actually the rear one that's really gone, hence it's time to overhaul them.

I used to have an EJ/EK genuine Honda manual which I donwnloaded like 4 years ago, but I seem to have lost it. If u got a link that would be great!

btw, i like the sig, i saw Senna in the cinemas 2 weeks ago, I remember that quote. Classic! Prost was a conservative and consistent driver. He did very well. But Senna was all about pushing the boundaries. I admire them both tho'.

And yes, I've heard it's doeable for the backyard DIY, but can be time consuming. I if i can, I always try to go the old DIY. The main obstacle for the DIYer is lack of tools really.

[TbM]

Ok ill try n pm you the link but im at work on my phone so may have trouble copying the link, if i cant do it now ill pm it through when i finish around 5-6 am, if you have any questions feel free to pm me and ill try n talk you through it if you get stuck on something :) It took me about 1-2 hours to remove the mounts as it was my first time so i went slow and i just used a good socket set and a jack with a wood block iirc.


The senna movie was good have you seen the other docos about him too? some of the driving he did was just unbelieveable, expecialy in the rain, i think there is a video of him at donnigton in the rain just making a fool of the rest of the field on the first lap lol. Prost was good and a very calculating driver but prefer senna, he pushed the limits of his car and himself more than any other driver ive seen. Seeing his telemetry compared to other drivers is an eye opener too :)

Another quote for you :)
"When you are fitted in a racing car and you race to win, second or third place is not enough." Ayrton Senna

[EG52NV]

Used this when doing it on the EK

http://www.ek9.org/forum/resource-area/19821-how-replace-rear-engine-mount.html

Should be the same for eg.

Tip do not be gentle with the heater hoses bend, push, pull, squeeze the hell out of them until you can wiggle whe rear mount out.

Helps to have impact wrench with at least 300nm of torque the 19mm bolts were not removable by hand

[TbM]

19mm bolts were not removable by hand

lol you dont need an impact wrench, just a socket set that has a breaker bar thats how i did mine:)

[EG52NV]

lol you dont need an impact wrench, just a socket set that has a breaker bar thats how i did mine:)

Lol you obviously have no idea how tight the 19mm bolts were on my car! No human could undo them without wrecking the breaker bar first! After we snapped 1 breaker bar we decided it was time to borrow some air tools..

[TbM]

Lol you obviously have no idea how tight the 19mm bolts were on my car! No human could undo them without wrecking the breaker bar first! After we snapped 1 breaker bar we decided it was time to borrow some air tools..

Who said anything about me being human...:) I didnt realise you meant your bolts in your car sorry, i thought you meant it wasnt possible to do the 19mm bolts by hand on any car which is not true. if the bolts stuck/rusted you might need to use a power tool but i always get away with a breaker bar and extra leverage if needed, worst cases i have been known to hit the braker bar with a hammer to loosen the bolt.

[integragsi96]

Who said anything about me being human...:) I didnt realise you meant your bolts in your car sorry, i thought you meant it wasnt possible to do the 19mm bolts by hand on any car which is not true. if the bolts stuck/rusted you might need to use a power tool but i always get away with a breaker bar and extra leverage if needed, worst cases i have been known to hit the braker bar with a hammer to loosen the bolt.

half inch drive long breaker bar....if all fails buy a metal tube cut it and put it over the breaker bar for extra leverage!
and wd-40 makes everything easier too!
thats what i did when doing my b18b integra.

[EG52NV]

half inch drive long breaker bar....if all fails buy a metal tube cut it and put it over the breaker bar for extra leverage!
and wd-40 makes everything easier too!
thats what i did when doing my b18b integra.

Metal tube is useless if car is only raised on jack stands there no room to leverage it...

[Mikecivic78]

Alright, it's been decided, I'm gonna do the DIY in the couple of months.

I plan to buy a breaker bar with one of those 1/2 inch drive swivel heads.

I'm gonna bleed and grunt my way until it's done. Not gonna pay someone that's 4 sure.


just a couple of Qs:

1. Is it prudent to do all of the mounts, or just the ones that are gone?
2. Any other potential problems that I should know about?

[TbM]

Nice one mate good to hear :) By swivel head i assume you mean a uni joint? I also used a couple different lengthed 1/2 inch extensions while i did mine so might help if you have some of them handy.

If you have bought a whole set of mounts id just replace them all at once, no point buying new parts and not using them i recon.

[Mikecivic78]

that's it, a uni joint. I have a kingchrome torque wrench and admittedly I have used it as a breaker bar a number of times. That messes up the torque wrench, so I plan to buy a bona fide breaker bar. Uni joint will help with angles in the engine bay.

I've done a bit of research. The rear seems to be the biggest bitch to do like you said, TbM. Cheers for the EK9.org link EG52NV :)

I haven't sourced the mounts. I'm wondering if I should get a whole set or just get the ones that need the most attention.

[TbM]

Lol yeh thats bad for torque wrenchs from what ive heard lol. I bought a 1/2 inch socket set that had a breaker bar, uni joint and extensions so if you dont have a decent set might be an idea to buy a set rather than just the breaker bar and uni joint.

Yeh its not to hard tho just have to take off a few bits to get to it and can be annoying to pivot the mount out if you dont remove the engine bracket but it was doable on mine without removing the bracket.

Which ones are broken? do the ones that arnt broken look fine still or are they looking old anyway?

[integragsi96]

Metal tube is useless if car is only raised on jack stands there no room to leverage it...

I was referring to top engine/gearbox mounts ontop with car on jack stands.
i believe i used for the rear engine mount for my b18b. the breaker bar, half inch drive, my foot with alot of power behind it, alot of swearing and knocked back half a carton of TED's (Tooheys Extra Drys)

[integragsi96]

that's it, a uni joint. I have a kingchrome torque wrench and admittedly I have used it as a breaker bar a number of times. That messes up the torque wrench, so I plan to buy a bona fide breaker bar. Uni joint will help with angles in the engine bay.

I've done a bit of research. The rear seems to be the biggest bitch to do like you said, TbM. Cheers for the EK9.org link EG52NV :)

I haven't sourced the mounts. I'm wondering if I should get a whole set or just get the ones that need the most attention.

yehh my b18b rear engine mount took me a good 2-3 hours to get it out and back in. most of the time i spent trying to fiqure a way to get it out.
good luck mate...
I got rid of my teg and now have a 5thgen prelude vtir.....new fun and games to get puzzled about now.

[Mikecivic78]

2-3 hours eh? thanks 4 that :)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/180689907764?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

what do u guys think, any good, or ebay crap?

[blastnpast]

Mike hit
Me up
If u need decent set of mounts :) I have a set of innovative 60A billet mounts in stock to suit your car ;) bling bling

[integragsi96]

well if your taking out the engine mounts. this is the perfect time to upgrade to some better mounts eg innovative and hasport.
but then again...it all come down to budget.

[EG52NV]

yehh my b18b rear engine mount took me a good 2-3 hours to get it out and back in. most of the time i spent trying to fiqure a way to get it out.
good luck mate...
I got rid of my teg and now have a 5thgen prelude vtir.....new fun and games to get puzzled about now.

It's the ****en heater hoses which are in the way..

[TbM]

^^^ If you remove the bracket that holds the heater hose to the firewall you can bend the hoses out of the way.

[EG52NV]

Yeah bracket was removed as per ek9.org DIY did it make thing alot easier, nope.. The hoses just kept blocking the mount, a lot of cursing and swearing was involved lol

[Mikecivic78]

2-3 hours eh? thanks 4 that :)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/180689907764?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

what do u guys think, any good, or ebay crap?

Can anyone comment on this?

[blastnpast]

Can anyone comment on this?

No good man just let me know what u need and I'll get you quality stuff at cheap prices

[TbM]

Can anyone comment on this?

I havent used them myself but id be worried that they only seem to offer a 10 day warrenty unless i read it wrong. Even tho they are cheap id rather pay a bit more and get oem, hardrace, innovative or hasport and know im more likely to not have to buy/change the mounts out again anytime soon. Just my 2c :)

[Mikecivic78]

Alright, I picked up a passenger-side lower front mount from Honda today for 60 bucks to replace the cactused one in the pic.

http://i54.tinypic.com/2jbnpqo.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/ih8klz.jpg


No good man just let me know what u need and I'll get you quality stuff at cheap prices

Can you can get me the one in the green circle, OEM or OEM replacement for a good price?

http://i54.tinypic.com/2qarat2.jpg


I havent used them myself but id be worried that they only seem to offer a 10 day warrenty unless i read it wrong. Even tho they are cheap id rather pay a bit more and get oem, hardrace, innovative or hasport and know im more likely to not have to buy/change the mounts out again anytime soon. Just my 2c :)

Yes, I agree, OEM FTW

[Vvvtec]

Thats the torque mount isnt it Mike?

[Mikecivic78]

yea mate, that's the one

[Vvvtec]

Nice!

Stick with OEM Mike. Unless you wanna try some Avid Racing (solid) torque mounts. Although the vibrations these (http://www.team-integra.net/forum/11-generation-three/152331-avid-torque-mounts-pics-up-2.html) create is horrible apparently. OEM ftw.

[blastnpast]

Yeah avid is just a cheap rip off of the hasports lol they are defiantly not durable and crack/weather easy as.

I think for his application oem is best

[Super-DA9]

only thing is OEM torque mounts are quite flimsy, which is why they rip. IMO anyway. but they need to be to prevent vibrations.

[TbM]

Regarding the torque mounts does anyone know if you get Hasport or innovative mounts which dont have the torque mounts included do you need to keep the old torque mounts for rwc or can you just run the 3 engine mounts in the kit with out the torque mounts?