View Full Version : Pipe from carbi to motor 92` civic
prada21
16-09-2011, 01:16 PM
Hey guys,
I just got a 92' honda civic last night and i need some answers.
Does any one know what the pipe needed between the carbi and the motor is?
I just used a regular radiator house cut to length this morning but its sucking the life out of it and its not doing the job...
Im hoping someone here soon could give me the light of doom to which pipe i need that will not close when the engine is on..
Thanks so much guys in advance!!!
Justin
trism
16-09-2011, 06:20 PM
what? please take a pic and show us.
hmetro24
16-09-2011, 08:30 PM
There are couple of hoses from engine to carbie
prada21
20-09-2011, 08:27 AM
Its cool. I've foundout that that my setup its complete custom.. I'm running a d16y4 with 4x itb's running into the engine.. and its a complete backyard hack with mix and match of parts... its a real screw up and going to cost me more then I payed for the car.. =\
hmetro24
20-09-2011, 08:35 AM
If it's Back yard ITB or watever it is, just buy manifold for d16y4 and put it, 100 -150$. Can you upload pictures of the ITB in here. I would like to see these ITB :).
prada21
20-09-2011, 08:40 AM
Mate I would be the happyist guy on this earth if it was that easy.. I can't upload pics on here but if you pm me you email or number ill be more then happy to show u. No issues =]
And just remember its as back yard job as ever :(
prada21
20-09-2011, 08:41 AM
This goes to anyone. Who ever wants pics. Shoot me an addy.. I got no hesitations.. id rather show then sit here alone with this f*ck up..
hmetro24
20-09-2011, 10:18 AM
IF they Done nothing to the head so that's pretty good. Nothing is a big deal, Upload pictures and we can tell you how bad it is?
Btw first you said it is carbie and than you said its d16y4. That's different engine at all .
Does it look like this one
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs882.snc4/71514_442620437978_535517978_5299123_4693707_n.jpg
Take it easy Mate .
myztery
20-09-2011, 10:35 AM
It's a d16y4 with motorbike dual Carby modified on it
myztery
20-09-2011, 10:37 AM
Here it is
hmetro24
20-09-2011, 10:49 AM
That's is cool :D. How the car is running ? what's wrong with it ? Which hose is giving you hard time ? You could try High pressure hoses ( EFI Hoses). It is going to be hard ti tune the Quad bike Carbies.
If you want to have it same as before
Get a manifold For d16y4 with gasket, injectors, ecu ( if been changed), wires( if they cut the wires) ... Take these carbies and sell them. Some body would like to have carbie engine
Put the manifold, check all the wiring, hoses. Check the Fuel pressure that it's running at right Psi, because Carbie is using 4-5 Psi and injection use ( I think 45Psi).
Check if they cut any wires to the ECU or if they replaced the ECU.
myztery
20-09-2011, 11:04 AM
That's is cool :D. How the car is running ? what's wrong with it ? Which hose is giving you hard time ? You could try High pressure hoses ( EFI Hoses). It is going to be hard ti tune the Quad bike Carbies.
If you want to have it same as before
Get a manifold For d16y4 with gasket, injectors, ecu ( if been changed), wires( if they cut the wires) ... Take these carbies and sell them. Some body would like to have carbie engine
Put the manifold, check all the wiring, hoses. Check the Fuel pressure that it's running at right Psi, because Carbie is using 4-5 Psi and injection use ( I think 45Psi).
Check if they cut any wires to the ECU or if they replaced the ECU.
They've bridged alot of the wires;
Ecu, fuel pump, fuel lines, vacuum hoses, yet it's not running any aftermarket ecu, looks like it's running a fpr and DIY filter and running friggin rich as a mofo
myztery
20-09-2011, 11:06 AM
Also running an external fuel pump, and lines, my guess is that it still has the Carby tank and lines in it, and the last owner decided to bridge it out
hmetro24
20-09-2011, 11:06 AM
It is going to be hard job to tune these Quad Carbies. That's why it's running so rich. Maybe it getting More than enough Fuel pressure.
prada21
20-09-2011, 11:08 AM
Haha you found meeee!!!!
Hey buddy, i dont know if you got my message on facebook, im going to keep the car.
Im going to try and find that ECU and im going to attempt to drive to TODA tomorow.. :)
Thank you so much for spending so much time last night looking at it.. and THANK YOU for finally getting a pic up.. i cant do it at work.. :)
myztery
20-09-2011, 11:09 AM
It is going to be hard job to tune these Quad Carbies. That's why it's running so rich. Maybe it getting More than enough Fuel pressure.
Maybe, he might need to run an aftermarket ecu, could the ecu be stuck in cold start mode???? Correct me if I'm wrong???
prada21
20-09-2011, 11:11 AM
its running wayyyyy to much more...
my fuel pressure is showing 8 pound of fuel =(
hmetro24
20-09-2011, 11:22 AM
If you find somebody expert with carbie tuning, it really nice to have this engine with carbies. Need Tune and should be running good. Ecu is not related to carbie any more.
prada21
20-09-2011, 11:26 AM
its only nice if you want this? i dont really.. lol
at this stage id kinda rather stock.. but now i just need to deal with what i got and get it working properly...
:)
prada21
20-09-2011, 03:08 PM
Its not good because its giving me issues.. i cant idle, it runs rich as.. half a tank of fuel in about 100km.. its killing me.. let alone how much it will cost to fix up?
=/
hmetro24
20-09-2011, 06:29 PM
I reckon, if you Diy, around 100-400 depends on the parts missing/needed.
I can not tell accurate price because i do not know what is missing from the car.
What i can see is:
Dizzy ( distributor ) Seems it is using different Dizzy
Manifold and gasket
Fuel filter ( if missing )
Wiring
Ecu If has been changed for some reason.
prada21
20-09-2011, 06:42 PM
I have next to no idea.
Myztery looked at my car in detail last night and so he would have a much better Idea what your talking about =]
I think I'm just going to take it to toda tomorow and see what they say..
It can't idle cause it conks out so the trip will be interesting to say the least haha
hmetro24
20-09-2011, 06:45 PM
If toda can tune these Carbie, It would be better than Stock Oem injection. Do not expect to be perfect running these Carbie.
prada21
20-09-2011, 06:49 PM
Well I wanted something reliable.. I guess that was a fail.. =[
hmetro24
20-09-2011, 07:02 PM
This kind of mods usually for racing car not for daily car.
prada21
20-09-2011, 07:22 PM
Haha well the only racing its doing atm is against the grass growing and seei.g how fast it can munch my tank of fuel.. and adding in not being able to idle its seriously hard to like this car...
viinnh
22-09-2011, 09:37 AM
i saw this car on gum tree. looked pretty interesting, carby model, with d16y1 with DIY itb's.
fast to you man ? should dyno/1/4 mile it if your keeping it LOL
prada21
22-09-2011, 10:36 AM
Well I was the idiot who brought it.. I can't get it to keep running. They done a rightfull stuff up. And I'm looking at big bucks to switch back to stock.. I regret buying it cause I don't have the knowledge or the cash to put into it..
prada21
22-09-2011, 10:37 AM
Its accualy 4x motobike ITB's to a d16y4..
viinnh
22-09-2011, 10:50 AM
yeah i know. i actually want your carby setup for mine lmao
prada21
22-09-2011, 11:08 AM
Yea? Well you can have it if u want?
How much?
hmetro24
22-09-2011, 11:09 AM
Did you go to Toda?
prada21
22-09-2011, 11:54 AM
Yea mate. Car is still there. There's not much we can do other then an engine swap which then makes it a 8 grand car..
hmetro24
22-09-2011, 03:53 PM
Are you serious, What do you mean engine swap, Is it that bad condition. Did they tell you the problem of the car ??.
prada21
22-09-2011, 04:41 PM
yea im serious.. its a cops playground.. once defected.. the only way to drive my car will be to do an engine swap.. its the biggest most bullshit backyard job ever..
Its seriously messed up and see no point in doing it.. 0 fuel economy.. a huge F**KED up headache.. and its a money pit for cash because ive had it 7 days today and been able to drive it... a max of 7 hours now....maybe..
its bullshit...
kutso
22-09-2011, 09:30 PM
who ever you brought it off i'd be driving through their house with it
prada21
22-09-2011, 09:56 PM
The engine is in that bad condition.. pm me ur addy ill send u pics. I cant upload on here =[
And I can't take it back cause I've moddifyed it.. I've moddifyed the bullshit to get it to run.. had it a week tonight and ice already spent close to $1,000 still not running =[
prada21
22-09-2011, 09:57 PM
They said good working order.. I asked them on several occasions if there was anything wrong and they denied it. It was running ok. Untill I got it home..
viinnh
22-09-2011, 10:02 PM
so waht exactly is wrong with the engine and what have you spent on it
prada21
22-09-2011, 10:05 PM
Atm the fuel pump.. but all over its just a defect.. and I just wanted a stock civic..
I don't have the knowledge to work on it..
Symphorced
22-09-2011, 10:28 PM
Sell it and buy a stock one? How much did you pay for this car?
prada21
22-09-2011, 11:42 PM
$3,000 =[
I wish I could... I really really do. =[
beeza
23-09-2011, 08:02 AM
How did U sleep mate? :)
OK,so what R your options OR is the best option for someone to round and have a look?
prada21
23-09-2011, 08:18 AM
Myztry has already looked at it. I know him personaly..
There's not much I can do with the car in tbe shape its In.. basicly it needs an engine swap.. but I don't have the money..
Its at toda getting the fuel pump fixed..
My best option is to sell it to some who wants it and look for another =|
beeza
23-09-2011, 08:29 AM
I feel for ya man.
Lets hope things turn out for the best.
Stay positive and they will mate.
prada21
23-09-2011, 08:48 AM
untill i get defected.. then ill need the $4,500 quick from somewhere? lol
Im just over the car.. id rather get rid of it and buy a stocky civic with no hassles... :)
beeza
23-09-2011, 08:54 AM
Yup yup,I understand FULLY.
So,it's just no repairable aye?
prada21
23-09-2011, 09:02 AM
it is.. but ALOT of money and time.. its 100% easyier just to do an engine swap but the issue is the cash :)
viinnh
23-09-2011, 09:03 AM
that 1k you spent shoulda spent on going efi. And whats the pooint of getting new fuel pump ? Call up toda and cancwl if they havemt done so
prada21
23-09-2011, 09:29 AM
because i live near liverpool and toda is at thornleigh. im sick of paying for a tow truck.. and what is the point of a car that doesnt run?
I want it to run.. i want to drive it.. its only money.. id love to do the engine swap.. but the only thing is i dont have the cash flow.. thats all thats stopping me :(
im not tight.. its my car, id put all my cash into my car even if it means im poor and i know that know one will ever see the money value.. but its my pride and joy :)
but this is just stupid.. i just cant see why some nut case ever think putting 4x motobike carbys on a civic engine would even do jack shit except cause alot of people headaches and waste their time fixing their stupid idea.. thats the hardest thing..
Id wanna sell this rightfull stuff up.. but im the type of person to do it honestly and not like the 3 asains i brought it off.. id sell it to someone that knows all the issues i know, not hide it sell it to someone who now has no car, no way of getting to work, i need my car.. now i have a purple nice looking heap of shit that i cant appreciate because i got ripped off....
It just pisses me off.. and theres nothing i can do about it..
viinnh
23-09-2011, 10:09 AM
yeah i know im just saying but if you want a stock civic with that one you have, you have 2 choices.
1. go EFI with that engine its another 1k or even less
2. go back to carby with that engine ive seen alot of cars like that second hand carbys goes for under 150$ theres one on gumtree
the reason i say this because like you pm'd me. you want it gone for 2k ? thats a 1k loss from waht you bought so might as well keep it and dont loose that 1k then spending it on a more expensive civic. know what i mean >?
prada21
23-09-2011, 10:45 AM
Im willing to sell it for 2k.. i brought the car for 3k and ive spent just over $1,100 on it trying to get it running with out headaches...
id loose 2k.. which i can handle.. 2k and ill be able to buy something else..
Theres no point dropping another engine in unless i go all out cause there would still be a chance of a defect which i don't want the hassle.. if im going to spend cash on it. id spend alot to make sure its worth it. not just a little bit here and there..
My engine bay has been hacked by cables that only suit my set up.. i dont have the time or knowledge to do it all myself.. thats the main point :)
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