My MY12 Euro

[buddah51au]

I picked up my new Euro today, here are a couple of pics. The weather was not the best so I will take some more when the weather improves.

I noticed when changing the wheels that the underbody floor pan is covered on each side by a full plastic cover. I suspect this is to improve underbody airflow, hence the slight claimed improvement in economy.


http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo325/buddah51au/2011_10_05_MY12Euro_0018.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo325/buddah51au/2011_10_05_MY12Euro_0019.jpg

[antony]

It looks stunning,and the lux wheels suit it to a tee,you must be in love all over again...

[buddah51au]

It looks stunning,and the lux wheels suit it to a tee,you must be in love all over again...

It's way too early to comment on anything yet, I have only driven it home from the Dealership, first job was changing the wheels which I had ready, I haven't driven it on the road yet with those wheels.

[1six8]

congrats on the new car....looks very clean as expected...not sure if it is jus the way the new front looks sorts of reminds me of a hint of a ford falcon.....but overall still a very nice looking car....hope you have fun with it.....

[marquee]

Grille looks like an accord grill I like the front still can't get over the pink tint on the tail lights though but still a nice car

[buddah51au]

The pink tint on the tail lights looks good on white, probably better on red, but I think it might look silly on other colours

[ryaan]

any difference in the interior? :D pics pic !

[Lazarus]

such a sexy lookin car! show us pix of inside!

[buddah51au]

There are no visible differences to the interior that would show up in pictures. The seat trim material is different & supposedly a dust free material, apart from that the changes are USB connectivity, bluetooth, auto on/off headlights, rain sensing wipers, switch blade key. Apparently the suspension settings have been revised & the underbody plastic shield that coves the underfloor area presumably for better airflow under the car.

[Golf_R]

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/180640_10150399776340245_594705244_17516562_100818 _n.jpg
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/218076_10150537346320245_594705244_18258544_431181 5_n.jpg
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/218076_10150537346325245_594705244_18258545_444555 3_n.jpg
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/224635_10150598591735245_594705244_18930612_671656 7_n.jpg

I like the 2012 one more....jealous....

[I CU2]

Whose car is that lol?

[denot]

gof R = thread stealer? :confused:

[I CU2]

buddah got threadjacked!

[buddah51au]

Sh*t happens ..... lol. Spent today with clay bar in hand, over the next few days it will get the Menzerna treatment followed by Duragloss sealant. Booked in for next Wednesday to get Ventureshield PPF on everything forward of the windscreen.

I will put some decent pics up once the weather clears & i have finished everything.

[Type R Positive]

Looking great there Buddah!

New cars kick arse!!! I've only driven my new one like 3 times... :(

[MR_LATE]

lol that was random... nice mod tho

[denot]

Sh*t happens ..... lol. Spent today with clay bar in hand, over the next few days it will get the Menzerna treatment followed by Duragloss sealant. Booked in for next Wednesday to get Ventureshield PPF on everything forward of the windscreen.

I will put some decent pics up once the weather clears & i have finished everything.

Hey buddy, I thought you're not supposed to use wax/polish when the paint is still new?

[buddah51au]

You thought wrong with imported cars mate. It takes 6 to 8 weeks for the paint to gas out, after that your ready to go. With 99.9% of imported cars mor than 8 to 10 weeks has passed since they were painted in the factory.

Add to that, most cars new cars need a good clay after transportation. Just think where they could have been - Holding yards, Rail Transport, Shipping transport, the list goes on. Therefore they usually get more industrial fallout on the way to a dealer than most other cars would in years of ownership.

http://www.swell.gr/car/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_new.tpl&product_id=200&category_id=9&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=72

[denot]

You thought wrong with imported cars mate. It takes 6 to 8 weeks for the paint to gas out, after that your ready to go. With 99.9% of imported cars mor than 8 to 10 weeks has passed since they were painted in the factory.

Is this based on the "build date" or "Australian compliance date"?

[HunterZero]

Where are you getting the Ventureshield installed? Hope you get a decent straight application this time around.

- HZ

[buddah51au]

Is this based on the "build date" or "Australian compliance date"?

Build date Denot. Let me add that the paintwork is almost perfect after claying the car, so I will be polishing with Menzerna FF3000 & a blue Lake County Finishing Pad so very little, if any cut is achieved. It is more to lay down a layer of polish before application of my finishing sealant.

[buddah51au]

Where are you getting the Ventureshield installed? Hope you get a decent straight application this time around.

- HZ

Getting it installed at Maroochydore on the Sunshine Coast. Although I am in the process of giving the car a good detail at the moment I WILL NOT be aplying any Silicon Sealant at this stage to the areas where the Ventureshield will be applied - forward of the windscreen.

Actually, they reapplied the Ventureshield to my 08 CU2 after a old woman ran into the front of it, so I have seen their workmanship.

[CU2CU2]

pearl white is good

[Type R Positive]

Hey buddy, I thought you're not supposed to use wax/polish when the paint is still new?
That's true, but the paint wouldn't be fresh if it was painted in Japan and the car is now in Australia!

[MR_LATE]

if u had paint protection and want to wax/polish ur car, what do u use? does paint protection fade away after two years?

[buddah51au]

Paint protection is useless after 6 months. I would recomend a clay bar to start, followed by a good quality polish, I use Menzerna, what product in their range depends on how bad the swirls/scratches are - use with either a Das 6 or Meguiars G220 Random Orbital Machine, followed by your favourite sealant - I personally like Duragloss. There are many other quality polishes & sealants available, so whatever works for you.

Maybe you need a few days on the Fraser Coast .... lol

[MR_LATE]

Paint protection is useless after 6 months. I would recomend a clay bar to start, followed by a good quality polish, I use Menzerna, what product in their range depends on how bad the swirls/scratches are - use with either a Das 6 or Meguiars G220 Random Orbital Machine, followed by your favourite sealant - I personally like Duragloss. There are many other quality polishes & sealants available, so whatever works for you.

Maybe you need a few days on the Fraser Coast .... lol

thanks buddah, ill start to buy things to do it.
what is fraser coast?.. i definately need lessons as ive never done anything but wax on other cars, im really good at cleaning but thats it

[I CU2]

You live in QLD and don't know what the Fraser Coast is?

I think you may need some geography lessons as well :p.

[MR_LATE]

well we call it fraser island. ..

[I CU2]

well we call it fraser island. ..

and Fraser coast is the coast :)

[buddah51au]

Let me narrow it down - the whale capital - hervey bay

A Queenslander that doesn't know the different parts of his State ..... lol. A history lesson for you heading north from Brisbane > Sunshine Coast > Wide Bay Burnet > Fraser Coast > Discovery Coast > Capricorn Coast & so on.

[MR_LATE]

Let me narrow it down - the whale capital - hervey bay

A Queenslander that doesn't know the different parts of his State ..... lol. A history lesson for you heading north from Brisbane > Sunshine Coast > Wide Bay Burnet > Fraser Coast > Discovery Coast > Capricorn Coast & so on.

yeah, but im asian and i stay clear of water :P
anyways, would you know where i could get lux rims for my base euro, cus i do like em and i think im becoming "stock looks best" kinda guy.

[I CU2]

anyways, would you know where i could get lux rims for my base euro, cus i do like em and i think im becoming "stock looks best" kinda guy.

Yep, same same. Stock/Stock looking is best.

How much are you looking to spend on them?

[MR_LATE]

no sure but nothing too high lol becus ill just think, if i spend a lil more i just get new rims lol

[buddah51au]

no sure but nothing to high lol becus ill just think, if i spend a lil i just get new rims lol

No you wont, OEM 18's for the CU2 are around $850 a corner over the counter.

[MR_LATE]

No you wont, OEM 18's for the CU2 are around $850 a corner over the counter.

so don't bother buying oem lux rims then?

[buddah51au]

Only if you can find a set in as new condition which is what I did.

[I CU2]

Only if you can find a set in as new condition which is what I did.

You were lucky Jones Boys changed wheels pre-delivery :)

[buddah51au]

A few more pics, whole car has been clay bared & polished, but only back half has had Duragloss Sealant applied. It is booked in on Wed to have the Ventureshield applied to the complete front, then I will finish detailing the front. I will try to get photo's of the Ventureshield Installation.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo325/buddah51au/2011_10_10_MY12Euro_0022.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo325/buddah51au/2011_10_10_MY12Euro_0021.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo325/buddah51au/2011_10_10_MY12Euro_0020.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo325/buddah51au/2011_10_10_MY12Euro_0023.jpg

[MR_LATE]

my eyes! im blinded!

[buddah51au]

Pictures don't do justice to a white car, but with this combination the pearl really stands out & the paint is so smooth.

[I CU2]

How much does all your detailing products cost?

Does it go:

Wash
Clay
Cleanse and/or Polish
Wax

?

[Fredoops]

Since I got the CAI in there my consumption's been around 11L/100km.

shite.

Cause the ECU learnt the increased airflow and started to dump more fuel into the cylinders....

This engine doesnt know how to run lean....

[buddah51au]

How much does all your detailing products cost?

Does it go:

Wash
Clay
Cleanse and/or Polish
Wax

?

Wash.
Clay Bar.
Polish - I use Menzerna, but it is not dust free as advertised. Great results otherwise.
Duragloss 601
Duragloss 605 - 2 layers, minimum 12 hours apart
Duragloiss 951 Aquawax as final wipedown

I have a DAS-6 RO for polishing with 4 Lake County Pads. Cost ... hmmm .... several hundred dollars from www.carcareproducts.com.au

[I CU2]

:/ does the brand of the wash and clay matter or are they all the same?

[buddah51au]

:/ does the brand of the wash and clay matter or are they all the same?

They are not all the same, but it comes down to personal choice & what works for you. Personally I use:-

http://www.carcareproducts.com.au/product/duragloss/car_wash_concentrate-0

http://www.carcareproducts.com.au/product/dodo_juice/gentle_grey_clay_bar

There is lots of information in the detailing section of ozhonda

Don't foget to get lots of micro fibre cloths, chamois & wash mit.

[antony]

Your Euro is going to be goregous looking,and as clean as a pin.

Dont forget to keep those alloys spotless too...

[adhunt99]

Looks nice!

[Fredoops]

Just a question:

Why bother with all the creams and bars when you'll just gonna put a layer of plastic film over it? Shouldn't the film protect the paint anyway

[buddah51au]

Just a question:

Why bother with all the creams and bars when you'll just gonna put a layer of plastic film over it? Shouldn't the film protect the paint anyway

Simple, i am a detailing fanatic & everything has to be 100%. Preperation of the paint under the Ventureshield will make it look better as the film is optically clear, therefore the condition of the paint will reflect the end result. Also I am only getting the Ventureshield Applied to the Bonnet, Front Guards, Bumper, Mirrors & Headlights.

For me, close enough is not good enough, but to each his own.

[Type R Positive]

Yep, it needs to be perfect before the film is applied!

[MR_LATE]

Yep, it needs to be perfect before the film is applied!

u live in bowan?

[CU2 Euro 09]

Hi Buddah, not sure if you said before but, how much did you get for your old CU2?

[Type R Positive]

u live in bowan?Lol! Nah, Darwin. ;)

[MR_LATE]

Lol! Nah, Darwin. ;)

lol cus its says where the mangoes and i thought of bowan mangoes lol

[redseven]

Pearl white, big wheels, man that's a gorgeous car :)

For cheapo detailing, would you recommend any polishes and waxes that can be applied by hand? And what do you do for the interior?

[denot]

Pearl white, big wheels, man that's a gorgeous car :)

For cheapo detailing, would you recommend any polishes and waxes that can be applied by hand? And what do you do for the interior?

applying wax/polish/sealant with hand is not doing the job correctly... unless you have a strong arm! :p

[buddah51au]

Denot is right, you can't even get close to a good job applying polish by hand.

I just got home from the Sunshine Coast where I had the Ventureshield PPF applied to the complete bonnet, complete front gaurds, bumper, lights & door mirrors. As expected I didn't notice any difference in driving compared to the MY08 CU2, however the handling is a lot sharper with the 18's. First trip in the car, only done around 500km total & the trip computer is reading 6.3L/100 .... not even run in yet so very happy with that.

[denot]

Denot is right, you can't even get close to a good job applying polish by hand.

I just got home from the Sunshine Coast where I had the Ventureshield PPF applied to the complete bonnet, complete front gaurds, bumper, lights & door mirrors. As expected I didn't notice any difference in driving compared to the MY08 CU2, however the handling is a lot sharper with the 18's. First trip in the car, only done around 500km total & the trip computer is reading 6.3L/100 .... not even run in yet so very happy with that.

Hows the ventureshield install this time? all good? how much it cost you again?

[buddah51au]

Installation is much better this time, just the odd blemish in the film itself which can happen on large sections. Full front $1800

[buddah51au]

As requested here are some additional pictures now the car is finished & the complete front has been wrapped with Ventureshield PPF. I have included a couple of inside pics, not that there is much noticeable difference to the MY08 CU2.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo325/buddah51au/2011_10_22_MY12Euro_0033.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo325/buddah51au/2011_10_22_MY12Euro_0035.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo325/buddah51au/2011_10_22_MY12Euro_0039.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo325/buddah51au/2011_10_22_MY12Euro_0038.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo325/buddah51au/2011_10_22_MY12Euro_0037.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo325/buddah51au/2011_10_22_MY12Euro_0036.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo325/buddah51au/2011_10_22_MY12Euro_0040.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo325/buddah51au/2011_10_22_MY12Euro_0041.jpg

[MR_LATE]

well that gps cord is annoying :D

[buddah51au]

LMFAO ..... spend 15 seconds & remove it, personally I watch the road so I don't notice it. Thankfully the trip computer readout is hard to see, so there should be no comments there. 546kms on less than 1/2 a tank, but that's normal.

[MR_LATE]

nice photos., i wish they did something for the manual cu2's gauge. the auto has the PRN DS.. manuals got black.

[I CU2]

^ Lmao, did you just get that from Type R Positives review.

[MR_LATE]

yep.. ive always thought it tho

[iceyyyy]

Congrads on you new Euro, it sure does looks awsome in white. I got my MY12 model as well but in graphite. BTW what is your windows tinting percentage??

[buddah51au]

Dark as legal. It was a free install from the dealer so I have no other information

[antony]

GRAPHITE IS ALSO BEAUTIFUL iceyyyy,congratulations on your new Euro,beautiful cars.

[jzx_andy]

balling!

[MKI4EVA]

Wow u liked the euro that much you got another one.

[buddah51au]

Wow u liked the euro that much you got another one.

In my view there is not a better car on the road in that price bracket & they give basically the same economy as a Civic which is a bonus.

[marquee]

In the ad the said a fancy little cam widget to improve fuel economy. What is it and if it its vtec everytime i hear it it reduces my economy

[Fredoops]

In the ad the said a fancy little cam widget to improve fuel economy. What is it and if it its vtec everytime i hear it it reduces my economy

Lol it's vtec.

[Bludger]

beautiful..

[I CU2]

In the ad the said a fancy little cam widget to improve fuel economy. What is it and if it its vtec everytime i hear it it reduces my economy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcT_ZyY3F0k

[marquee]

Stupid promotional lies

[buddah51au]

Promotional lies, cam widget, whatever, I have now done 812kms since i picked up the car & low fuel light is yet to come on & this was from the dealer filling the tank so I can't really be certain how full it was. The trip computer is reading 168kms to empty so not only does it work, there seems to be an improvement over the MY08 - MY11 model. Of the 812kms i have done 418 was highway & the remainder local city driving around Hervey Bay.

[Fredoops]

Promotional lies, cam widget, whatever, I have now done 812kms since i picked up the car & low fuel light is yet to come on & this was from the dealer filling the tank so I can't really be certain how full it was. The trip computer is reading 168kms to empty so not only does it work, there seems to be an improvement over the MY08 - MY11 model. Of the 812kms i have done 418 was highway & the remainder local city driving around Hervey Bay.

Facelift brings the usual ECU and shift tweaks which usually improve mpg slightly.

Btw you seems to be the only person on this forums getting those numbers sadly.

Us city folks wot get those numbers, period.

[ryaan]

Facelift brings the usual ECU and shift tweaks which usually improve mpg slightly.

Btw you seems to be the only person on this forums getting those numbers sadly.

Us city folks wot get those numbers, period.

+1
:(

[Bludger]

Do you have sheepskin on leather?

[buddah51au]

You guys seem to be missing my point to a certain extent. 1 - I can't be sure how full the tank was when I took delivery. 2 - While 50% of my driving so far has been highway, the other 50% has been local driving around Hervey Bay which I don't think would be much different than city driving as it is mostly 50 or 60 K speed limits around here with all driving < 10km, so stop start driving - cold engine - not getting into top gear etc. The other thing that will take time for me to work out is the accuracy of the trip computer with 18" wheels fitted due to the slightly larger rolling diameter (we all know the reading of the trip computer is not accurate, on my previous CU2 it was out by .3 to .4 L/100). I have never been 1 to take a lot of notice of how far you can go on 1 tank - I prefer to take an average consumption over a minimum 5000km. If you look at the speedo closely in the 2nd pic on page 6 you will see 546km @ an indicated 6.4 on less than 1/2 a tank.


To answer the last question, yes I have sheepskin, but not on leather, I only have a base model. Personally I can't justify an extra 7K for the lux model with cheap leather & a hole in the roof.

[antony]

[QUOTE=buddah51au;3140125]In my view there is not a better car on the road in that price bracket & they give basically the same economy as a Civic which is a bonus.[/QUOTEa]

I fully agree,there is NO better car in this segment...

[Bludger]

I think the Kizashi awd would be a better car in this segment.

[buddah51au]

Kizashi is a slightly smaller car & any car with a CVT auto transmission is a turn off for anyone who knows anything about transmissions. Add to that the Euro has the runs on the board & you know your spending your $$$ on a known product. The Kizashi is a new kid on the block & not a proven product. But we all have different views, wants & needs.

[Fredoops]

I'd prefer a CVT over hondamatic.

Just sayin..

[Bludger]

There has been nothing but good press about the Kizashi sport AWD.

Would love to own one if i didn't already have 3 cars.....

[buddah51au]

Kizashi sport AWD is priced closer to the Euro lux so outside my budget to start with

[I CU2]

Reviews for the Kizashi are quite good, yet sales and depreciation levels are quite poor. Looks like Suzuki hasn't marketed it's sedan segment as effectively as its hatchbacks?

Buddah, How come you updated your car to MY12 again?

[buddah51au]

PM sent

[Bludger]

I'm assuming the base model is around the 30-35k mark?

in that case, I would probably get the Euro too:p

I would seriously get rid of my dc2r if they came out with a Kizashi manual AWD. (I know it exists)

[buddah51au]

I'm assuming the base model is around the 30-35k mark?

in that case, I would probably get the Euro too:p

I would seriously get rid of my dc2r if they came out with a Kizashi manual AWD. (I know it exists)

Correct, 35K for base auto with approx 1,500 (retail) accessories included

[denot]

The only problem with the CU2 is the "weird" feel of the steering (moving by itself even on straight, smooth road).

My wife been driving i30 since she ever can drive, and she still say the steering is funny on the CU2. But overall, she still say its a good car.

[buddah51au]

The only problem with the CU2 is the "weird" feel of the steering (moving by itself even on straight, smooth road).

My wife been driving i30 since she ever can drive, and she still say the steering is funny on the CU2. But overall, she still say its a good car.

That's electric steering Denot & it seems most manufactures are heading that way to improve economy. With electric steering of any form you loose road feel, much the same as we did with the early power steering units. One can only hope that this improves over time, however the lack of feel has never caused a problem for me, even when pushing through some twisty stuff. You just get used to it.

[antony]

The Kizashi I considered when buying my Euro,but I think looked a bit strange,has been a massive flop for Suzuki world wide,and things like resale values worried me tettably.
Much happier with the Euro,was IMHO a brilliant choice.

[denot]

...but I think looked a bit strange,has been a massive flop for Suzuki world wide...

Couldn't agree more there... It looks weird... I think if not the CU2, my 2nd option will be either Liberty or Optima for the medium size class...

[Bludger]

Liberty looks cactus....

[Type R Positive]

Liberty looks cactus....And the last gen looked so good! They really do need to sack their design team.

[Bludger]

And the last gen looked so good! They really do need to sack their design team.
Before I got the GV, was seriously thinking of the last model Liberty.

All we wanted was an AWD to take us to the snow.....

[buddah51au]

Subaru is another company that us now using a CVT Auto transmission. To date CVT gearboxes have a renowned reliability problem. Most are belt driven, however subaru have gone with chain drive which I believe over time will not be reliable.

[antony]

I hate the look of the Liberty.

Besides the Euro,the Mazda 6 is similar,but not as classy IMHO.

Maybee a top of the range Jetta,or even Camry would get my nod ???

[praja6]

I love the look for Gen4 liberty, the current one look is very bad..

[marquee]

Before I got the GV, was seriously thinking of the last model Liberty.

All we wanted was an AWD to take us to the snow.....

Suzuki sx4 lol awd 2l

[Bludger]

Grand Vitara V6 Prestige > SX4 AWD

Likes to drink though......


I love the look for Gen4 liberty, the current one look is very bad..
the word is cactus or chunder....

whichever you please...

[buddah51au]

I thought I would give an early indication on economy, it is way too early at this stage to give firm overall figures as all my previous theory's are now invalid due to the different rolling diameter of the 18" wheels. My first fill was after 803kms ( I don't believe the tank was completely filled by the dealer at delivery) so I cant vouch for the accuracy. 803kms / 57.96Lts = 7.22. That was approx 50/50 highway & local driving.

I filled with BP95 & went for a run to the Sunshine Coast today, moderate to heavy traffic in sections & hard to maintain a constant speed, but generally between 90 & 115kph. Here are 2 pics of the trip computer at this moment. I wonder how much better it would be without using A/C. Who can complain about a range of 1185 kms on 1 tank (in theory). Obviously those figures will change once local driving increases the consumption.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo325/buddah51au/IMG_0413.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo325/buddah51au/IMG_0411.jpg

[WATAJK]

Looks really good, dash looks fantastic.
I should really go look at one in person..

[adis]

I thought I would give an early indication on economy, it is way too early at this stage to give firm overall figures as all my previous theory's are now invalid due to the different rolling diameter of the 18" wheels. My first fill was after 803kms ( I don't believe the tank was completely filled by the dealer at delivery) so I cant vouch for the accuracy. 803kms / 57.96Lts = 7.22. That was approx 50/50 highway & local driving.

I filled with BP95 & went for a run to the Sunshine Coast today, moderate to heavy traffic in sections & hard to maintain a constant speed, but generally between 90 & 115kph. Here are 2 pics of the trip computer at this moment. I wonder how much better it would be without using A/C. Who can complain about a range of 1185 kms on 1 tank (in theory). Obviously those figures will change once local driving increases the consumption.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo325/buddah51au/IMG_0413.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo325/buddah51au/IMG_0411.jpg

Wow, its soo good on juice! relatively large car, yet the car is easy on fuel. A+

[adis]

I hate the look of the Liberty.

Besides the Euro,the Mazda 6 is similar,but not as classy IMHO.

Maybee a top of the range Jetta,or even Camry would get my nod ???

Apart from euro, only other cars id consider IMO are: 1. TRD aurion (240kw), mazda 6 MPS (190kw all wheel drive).
If my euro had 200kw, i wouldnt be considering another car for a long long time. But sometimes i do miss some "ballz", but bare in mind i come from a done up s15 and done up skyline (270 at wheels) so its a bit of a change for me.

[Fredoops]

Apart from euro, only other cars id consider IMO are: 1. TRD aurion (240kw), mazda 6 MPS (190kw all wheel drive).
If my euro had 200kw, i wouldnt be considering another car for a long long time. But sometimes i do miss some "ballz", but bare in mind i come from a done up s15 and done up skyline (270 at wheels) so its a bit of a change for me.

That's an Acura TSX

Handles like a pig.

[I CU2]

Tawkkk Steeeeeeeeeeers.

[buddah51au]

Curiosity got the better of me so I decided to fill up at the same pump to see what the true economy was, knowing that I can get better once the engine is run in & I go on a longer trip. the result was 523 kms / 32.18 Lts = 6.153 L/100. Better than I ever achieved from my MY08 CU2. It also indicates the trip computer is much more accurate with the 18" wheels.

My intention now is to do a comparison against local driving only.

[chunsa]

buddah15au is there any noticeable difference in acceleration with the new wheels? They should be a lot heavier than the 17"? Or does it feel roughly the same?

Do you think the speedo is also "corrected" to give out more accurate speed with the new wheels?

[buddah51au]

Performance feels much the same although obviously it will be a little slower, but not noticeably so. The ride is much firmer, but handling has improved. Yes, the wheels are much heavier. According to my GPS, the speedo is out by 2kph @ 100, where with the 17's it was out by 5 to 6 kph at 100. Rpm now is close to 2000 @ 100kph instead of 2200 RPM

Specification Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Revs/Mile Difference
225/50-17 4.4in 12.9in 25.9in 81.2in 780 0.0%
235/45-18 4.2in 13.2in 26.3in 82.7in 766 1.8%

[I CU2]

What tyres are you running on?

[chunsa]

Thanks buddah51au.

Great info right there. Was contemplating on getting those Civic Type R wheels but heard they are heavy too (come on Honda stop making heavy wheels!!).
Interesting about the speedo accuracy getting sort of improved!

@I CU2: I think he is using the stock sizes based on that "table" - 235/45-18 so should be same size as the luxury version.

[buddah51au]

What tyres are you running on?

I am running Goodyear Eagle F1 235/45x18

[I CU2]

I saw that Goodyear was doing a cash back offer, if you don't mind me asking - how much did you get the set for?

[buddah51au]

$1114.00, the promotion was buy 4, pay for 3. I have never been a Goodyear fan, but the price was too good to say no. A set of OEM Michelin's would have cost $1920.

[chunsa]

Just had a play with a tire calculator wouldn't 225/45 been better for the 18" wheels? only 0.4% difference compared to 1.8%?

[buddah51au]

The lux model comes with 235/45x18, so that is what I went with on the Lux rims. I also wanted to loose some of the speedo error & I have achieved that. I couldn't see any gain or advantage using 225/45x18's, I did not even check if that size was available with a 98 load rating.

As it turned out, 235/45 was the right choice as the speedo is only 2% out at 100kph & after 1 test the trip computer is very close to being accurate, but it is way too early to be certain of that.

[denot]

Just had a play with a tire calculator wouldn't 225/45 been better for the 18" wheels? only 0.4% difference compared to 1.8%?

the CU2 has 18" specs, so you dont need to compare it to the 17". Just follow what the 18" specs from Lux model like buddah (and me :))and you'll be fine.

[MR_LATE]

if u gutter rash the 18s. since its machined, where would u take to fix it?

[I CU2]

^ How big is the gutter marks?

[MR_LATE]

^ How big is the gutter marks?
just by gussing i would say. 20cm in length and width would be 5m. on the edge,

[buddah51au]

Ouch, best to be careful & not get gutter rash to start with. One thing I noticed with the OEM Michelin's is they have no rim protector as part of the sidewall, The Goodyear F1's have it, but how useful it would be is another question.

[MR_LATE]

yea. so where would i get it fixed since i think they are part machined?

[Sambo73]

yea. so where would i get it fixed since i think they are part machined?


I got 2 wheels fixed by these guys. http://www.depuluwheels.com/index.html. fast turn around only 2-3 days. cost $180 -$200 per wheel.

[MR_LATE]

DAMN! thats expensive lol im use to paying 50$

[I CU2]

^ Did you buy this:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/280774956105?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1413

[MR_LATE]

yeah ? just did

[Sambo73]

DAMN! thats expensive lol im use to paying 50$

That price was for the wheels to be fully machined then clear coated with full warranty. the wheels where like new again.
Still cheaper than have to buy a OEM from Honda dealer at $600 +

[euromax]

Agree - value for money in that price bracket. I had a Luxury '09 model but having done 105,000 in 3 years decide to pass that on to the wife and get myself a MY12 base model manual red and would you believe it, a drive away price of $29,990 !!!! My Luxury cost $42,500 3 years ago.

There has never been a better time to buy a Euro than now.

[praja6]

Agree - value for money in that price bracket. I had a Luxury '09 model but having done 105,000 in 3 years decide to pass that on to the wife and get myself a MY12 base model manual red and would you believe it, a drive away price of $29,990 !!!! My Luxury cost $42,500 3 years ago.

There has never been a better time to buy a Euro than now.

NOw the facelifted My12 euro auto drive away is 36980.. they reduce the price a lot to make more sales now.

http://www.carsales.com.au/bncis/details/honda-accord%20euro-2011-11511997?vertical=Car&cr=0&eapi=2&__N=1216%201246%204294965322%204294965100%20429492 7482&distance=25&silo=Stock&Range=Price:Min,Max~1|Mileage:Min,Max|Year:Min,Max |Seats:Min,Max|EngineSize:Min,Max&sort=~Price

[euromax]

A MY12 Luxury at $36980 drive away is incredible. However this time I will get the Milano Red Manual base Euro because I'm going to do 100,000 kms in 3 years and it doesn't make sense to get a Luxury model. Bluetooth build in is what I'm looking for and iPod/iphone build in interface is a real bonus.

[praja6]

It is very incredible. when cu2 release in 08 lux auto was 51k something. i am sure lot f people may hv paid that much.. i was surprise with 36980, im sure there is still room for it..

other day saw my 11 pre facelift lux nav for 36780, i rang the dealer and he said its jan 11 built, which is nearly 1yr old car, just 20kilometer on the clock. only one left it was in their yard long time thts why cheap. next day the add disappear..

yaa but dnt know when honda gona increase price again like last time..




A MY12 Luxury at $36980 drive away is incredible. However this time I will get the Milano Red Manual base Euro because I'm going to do 100,000 kms in 3 years and it doesn't make sense to get a Luxury model. Bluetooth build in is what I'm looking for and iPod/iphone build in interface is a real bonus.

[antony]

The Euro is a brilliant car,and now incredable value for money,but it has had a lot of competition this year,and like the Mazda 6,has had to reduce pricing.

Threats include the all new VW Jetta,all new Toyota Camry/Aurion soon,Hyundai I45,Kia Optima,and Ford Mondeo becomming popular,as well as all the other mid sized sedans,eg Suzuki Kizashi.

[GSPOTR]

oh mate thats sex. hot colour ;)

[euromax]

oh mate thats sex. hot colour ;)

You mean the Milano Red? Haha might be too hot ;)

[buddah51au]

I paid $35,765 for my base auto with fog lights, tint & floor mats included. Dealers have room to move if you negotiate & drive a hard bargain.

[euromax]

Just negotiated a base Euro manual with tint & floor mats included, drive away price of $30465. Red's all gone. Only 1 white left in WA. So got Silver instead. Probably suit the business nature I'm intending it for. Seems like we're getting our 1st and 2nd Euros around the same time Buddah :)

[cassius]

I saw that in carsales then came here and see there was also a link to that same car and was amazed at the price. Am in the market for a new car and was set on the VW Passat but then saw this and am now in 2 minds.

We already have a good relationship with our local Honda dealer due to purchasing two new cars from them since 2005, and they have always looked after us.

Hmm Passat for me was the winner due to its economy, better performance and room as well as just biting the bullet and give a VW a crack for a change, but the servicing on them is horrendous, which is one of the things I dont like about them.

I do love the Hondas but its just the acceleration and economy which maybe pushing me towards the Passat.

I might just toss a coin. :)

[euromax]

Sorry Buddah for disrupting your thread but just feel like sharing my experiences with the Euro now.

Cassius, I don't know anything about the VW Passat but I've driven the Euro Luxury for 3 years and done 105,000 kms. Just strictly between Sydney and Canberra on 1st grade road. It is a very enjoyable and comfortable car to drive. Very capable of doing 160 kph or more on the highway and still feeling very stable and under control. Not that I would recommend you do that kind of speed. Not worth losing your license :) I'm sure you know Hondas too well by now after 2 cars :)

I like a good sound system too and the Euro is build as a very quiet car in the interior and is a good base to upgrade to a very nice after market sound system. Just something I like doing, to keep driving long distances more interesting.

So when it came time to change cars, I see no reason why not Euro again especially now when the price is so competitive.

[praja6]

Congrats euromax with your new euro. The price is very good. I love the silver color. When are you taking delivery.


Just negotiated a base Euro manual with tint & floor mats included, drive away price of $30465. Red's all gone. Only 1 white left in WA. So got Silver instead. Probably suit the business nature I'm intending it for. Seems like we're getting our 1st and 2nd Euros around the same time Buddah :)

[buddah51au]

Sorry Buddah for disrupting your thread but just feel like sharing my experiences with the Euro now.

Cassius, I don't know anything about the VW Passat but I've driven the Euro Luxury for 3 years and done 105,000 kms. Just strictly between Sydney and Canberra on 1st grade road. It is a very enjoyable and comfortable car to drive. Very capable of doing 160 kph or more on the highway and still feeling very stable and under control. Not that I would recommend you do that kind of speed. Not worth losing your license :) I'm sure you know Hondas too well by now after 2 cars :)

I like a good sound system too and the Euro is build as a very quiet car in the interior and is a good base to upgrade to a very nice after market sound system. Just something I like doing, to keep driving long distances more interesting.

So when it came time to change cars, I see no reason why not Euro again especially now when the price is so competitive.

I am sure you will be happy with it mate, there are some noticable differences.

[antony]

cassius,if it were my choice,I would go with the Euro.

Before getting my MY11 Euro,for 3 and a half years I had a Jetta,which was a lovely car,as it came standard with a lot of features,but it was a niggly car,and was constantly in for something to be repaired.

VWs are nototious for rattles,and this almost drove me insane,as is a reflection of poor build quality.

The biggest gripe that I had was with the dealerwho was very arrogant,and even dealing with VW themselves was not plesant.

I deceided ,after 4 new VWs,that my next car would so NOT be another,and when my Jetta was written off,I changed over to Honda.

The diffirence is day and night,far better build quality,great dealership,and very enjoyable motoring experiance.

If I had the choice all over again,I would still avoid VW like the plague,and be very happy to buy another Honda.

[PANJAB]

Hi guys, sorry to hijack the thread, but I wanted some info.. I am thinking of upgrading from my 05 VTi Accord to the MY12 Euro looked in the weekend herald they are offering drive away deals for $29990 manual, + extra for auto option any idea whats a good drive away price for the auto?? Not looking for any mods this time, maybe extended warranty+road assistance which I got last time but never had to use it....
tints I might get it done outside as last time dealers were asking $500, mate got his rx8 done for $250 outside ...
I dealt with Rick's but they're gone.. Thinking of going this arvo or tommorow to check it out...
Thanks in advance!:thumbsup:

seen a few for around $31500 mark drive away for auto... possible to drive it down to $29k ??

[buddah51au]

Just remember the $29,990 offer is for a red manual, every other colour in the range is metalic or pearlecent which is an extra cost. Add about $2,500 for Auto Trans. Overall you cant go wrong with the Euro.

[djpro1]

Clean!!! Love the indicator lights (they're blue!)

[bugeater]

seen a few for around $31500 mark drive away for auto... possible to drive it down to $29k ??

Don't think I'm the best negotator and got a manual for that. Premium paint, rear park assist, mats and boot tray included in that price.

[PANJAB]

Don't think I'm the best negotator and got a manual for that. Premium paint, rear park assist, mats and boot tray included in that price.

sounds like a good deal to me... +1 for the rear park assist in that price for $29k, still you managed to knock of $990 of the drive away price with the rear park assist.. I remember Rick Damelian had a rrp of the rear sensors at about $1100 when I got mine in 2k5, but outside I think there about $500 ish ??

great deal .. congrats ... had a look at one in crystal black.. going to check at another dealership and see if they can do better...

price is valid till the 1/1/12

edit:

Just to add hows the build quality on the MY11?? have they fixed the power steering hose issue, and the power window motors that was plagued on the earlier euros?? even my VTi wasn't spared I had to fork out $500 for a ruptured power steering hose 6 months ago as the recall only affected euro owners so I had to pay out of pocket.... also had the front driver side power window failure (luckily in warranty) was replaced, as well as the central locking failed... other than that has been good...

[cassius]

So what's the realistic economy on the euro. I've read a couple of posts and it varies from users car to car. Some say 14l/100km which is very high. Reviews of the passat are lower than or on the mark when it comes to economy. I would be driving to work on a 100km turnaround trip in a bit of start stop traffic closer to the city.

[euromax]

MY12 base Euro auto right now on the promotional price is $32,290 drive away. For manual it is $29,990. This is for Milano Red only as Buddah said. For any other colours, add another $475. You can easily get tinting and Honda mats thrown in free at that price or you can negotiate for other things instead like the other gentleman who got rear sensors, mats, boot tray, etc but I didn't really push it. You have to cut the sales guy and Honda some slack. It is Christmas after all :)

Yep this promotional offer is till the end of the year but who knows they might or might not extend it. I was told till stocks run out. The next container load in would be a different price.

I'm doing about 7.9 to 8 litres / 100 kms on mainly highway driving. Don't know much about city driving :)

My current 2009 model Euro luxury is problem free touch wood :) Yeah seriously had no issues since new for 3 years and 105,000 kms of driving. They even did a software upgrade to fix the so called engine pinging problem during one of the routine service. I didn't think I had the pinging problem at all but they did the upgrade nevertheless and I didn't noticed any different after that. Had a change of 4 tyres since. At 105,000 kms the brakes still didn't need changing because all I do is highway driving mostly lol. Now that's good economy.

[antony]

panjab,this deal is so good,if I were you,I would get one before the end of the month,as stocks may run out,and you could miss out on such a bargain...

[Pisco]

Hi all, new member here. While we're on the topic of new MY12 Euros and the current offer, I'm about to pull the trigger on a black base model manual, but have never bought a brand new car before. What is an acceptable number of kms on the clock for a brand new car? I know they have to move them around a bit on the dealer lot and maybe getting onto the truck, but what's an acceptable number to ensure I'm not getting some semi-demo model? 10 or 12ks? Hope not hijacking this thread too much!

[marquee]

10-12000 is a demo car your looking at maybe 300

[ryaan]

my car was 50kms when i picked it up brand new. 70-100kms would be acceptable

[praja6]

When i pick my car the odo was showing 16kms.. the contract showed 4km, but the salesguy told me since i got rear park sensors, they have to drive my car to workshop to install thats why the extra 12kms from yard to workshop then to showroom when i pick the car.

[Pisco]

Thanks for replies re how many ks on car pickup, made me relax a bit about the whole thing - sorry to hijack thread! Car ordered, should be here mid Jan - bugger for the wait, but looking forward to New Year! Jee the OPs pics of the white MY12 almost made me change my mind from black.

[denot]

...the OPs pics of the white MY12 almost made me change my mind from black.

Trust me, you will wish that you've changed your mind...

[tony1234]

Trust me, you will wish that you've changed your mind...

+1.Black car = pain in the ass to keep clean.Add beige leather and you have a high maintenance car.

[antony]

Silver is the easiest to maintain,but I quite like that new light Metallic Blue,but have only seen 1 car on the road in that colour.

[vasu]

Hi guys,
Got Delivery of my MY12 Graphite Luster CU2 Luxury and can't be much happier. Had CL9 tourer before which got written off and I didn't even had second thoughts in getting into CU2 and must say would never regret it. Euro's Rock:thumbsup:

[bugeater]

Car ordered, should be here mid Jan - bugger for the wait, but looking forward to New Year! Jee the OPs pics of the white MY12 almost made me change my mind from black.

Yeah the wait is a killer. I've got to wait till mid Jan for my white M12. :(

[s-ichigo]

according to honda below 100kms is considered as brand new car

mine had 2 kms on it when i pick it up

[denot]

according to honda below 100kms is considered as brand new car

mine had 2 kms on it when i pick it up

I think it's depend on the situation... When I was looking at a demo CU2 (back on 2008) one of the car has 1500km on it the salesman said between 50-2000 is a demo, above that is used and below is new. But when I bought my CU2 new, the salesmen said if its under 100 then its new.

[buddah51au]

My 08 cu2 had 25km, while my MY12 had 54km. Several factors come into it such as haveing non genuine accessories such as window tint installed - how far is it from the dealer to the 3rd party workshop.

[CU2 Euro 09]

Mine had 11kms on it when I picked it up after it had the accessories fitted and tinting done.

Over 50kms would be a reasons for me to not sign the delivery/inspection paperwork when picking it up without asking for more accessories.

[buddah51au]

Mine had 11kms on it when I picked it up after it had the accessories fitted and tinting done.

Over 50kms would be a reasons for me to not sign the delivery/inspection paperwork when picking it up without asking for more accessories.

Obviously it wasn't 18km each way to the window tinter in your case. In country towns you sometimes need to travel further to get some things done.

[CU2 Euro 09]

Obviously it wasn't 18km each way to the window tinter in your case. In country towns you sometimes need to travel further to get some things done.

I get that and this is a reason that the car should have been transported on a truck.

I think that dealers taking the cheap and easy option to drive a car around which they are selling as 'new' should be giving better deals or more accessories. Dealers would probably argue against that and that wouldn't surprise me as they are only about money. Where's the customer service I ask you?

You should have got free tinting for the inconvenience.

[buddah51au]

I get that and this is a reason that the car should have been transported on a truck.

I think that dealers taking the cheap and easy option to drive a car around which they are selling as 'new' should be giving better deals or more accessories. Dealers would probably argue against that and that wouldn't surprise me as they are only about money. Where's the customer service I ask you?

You should have got free tinting for the inconvenience.

I drive a harder bargain than you, I got free tinting, fog lights & floor mats, an exceptional deal in my view.

[CU2 Euro 09]

well thats good that you got that stuff free, so what was your deal?

[buddah51au]

well thats good that you got that stuff free, so what was your deal?

Changeover figure from 08 CU2 to MY12 with above accessories was $12,500, so i spent 500 more than I wanted, But got accessories with a retail value of around $1,500 included.

[SPQR]

+1.Black car = pain in the ass to keep clean.Add beige leather and you have a high maintenance car.

:thumbsup: Had a black car once. Only once...


Silver is the easiest to maintain,but I quite like that new light Metallic Blue,but have only seen 1 car on the road in that colour.

:thumbsup: Silver is the easiest to maintain. I did not like the washed-out Celestial Blue I saw in photos until I saw the colour up close on a new CU2. Now it's growing on me.

[I CU2]

Silver is the easiest to maintain. I did not like the washed-out Celestial Blue I saw in photos until I saw the colour up close on a new CU2. Now it's growing on me.

Hinting for an upgrade? ;)

[buddah51au]

I always thought it was possible in the right circumstances, I finally got 1000km on 1 tank of fuel.

[jay2]

Amazing...! Is that on a tank of Caltex Vortex 95?

[buddah51au]

Vortex 98, but there was no noticable difference between that & BP95. Actually the BP95 gave better fuel consumption which is hard to believe.

My last 2 tanks -

BP 95 - 983kms / 64.06L = 6.52L/100

Vortex 98 - 1002kms / 66.05L = 6.6L/100

I always believe there are slight variables when filling at different service stations, Also I question if the different pumps give the exact same measurments of fuel distributed.

[Pisco]

While on the topic of fuel, I just noticed the United outlet in my city has just started selling/advertising 100 octane fuel. Never seen this before. Anyone tried it yet and notice any better mileage again. They're selling it for 157.6 here.

[kishandb]

Hi guys,

I've got an Accord Euro MY12 but the gear changes are not smooth in the car.
Does anyone experience this same issue?

A friend of mine drove by in a Honda Jazz and I had a drive in that. It felt like it had only one gear. The gear change was that smooth.

I've had this problem from the day I bought the car.

Don.

[euromax]

I had no problems with rough gear changes on my 3 years old Euro Luxury neither did I have any problems with my new MY12 base Euro manual which by the way is butter smooth and I think sale of the century :)

I paid $29990 for a base Euro manual MY12 model in Graphite Lustre - a change of colour from my original intended white or silver.
These are the accessories that came with it :-

Tinting
Factory floor mats
Fog lights
Manual sports pedal
Accent lighting
No extra charge for metallic paint
Full tank of petrol

I'm holidaying in Melbourne now having driven from Sydney.
I had the car bra on :)
Being the 2nd Euro I've owned in 3 years I have to say it is still a very nice car to drive and value quality for money.

[buddah51au]

I have had no problems with rough gear changes in iether of my CU2 auto's.

[SPQR]

I have had no problems with rough gear changes in iether of my CU2 auto's.

Wow! You get those fantastic economy numbers with an Auto!

[kishandb]

I've got a Luxury automatic.

I've kind of regret getting an automatic 'cause I've driving manual all my life and then I changed to automatic and I'm not enjoying the transmission at all.

The transmission is quite slow to respond and sometimes it feels quite heavy like a diesel engine. Most of the time I end up manually changing down the gears which defeats the whole automatic purpose. I should have just got the manual. I've also read that the manual has more punch.

Anybody else who has had problems with gear changing on an automatic?

[SPQR]

:thumbsup: Silver is the easiest to maintain. I did not like the washed-out Celestial Blue I saw in photos until I saw the colour up close on a new CU2. Now it's growing on me.


Hinting for an upgrade? ;)

Wishful thinking... My Euro is in its 8th year. A local planning Minister murdered my finances three years ago. In any case, after a year of driving a loaned V6 car, I've become addicted to the grunt that the Euro has not. If the next Euro comes with a V6, then maybe. Otherwise, the new Accord is due in the last quarter of 2012 and it might even look nicer than the current blob. We'll get a hint at the Detroit Auto Show in January 2012 when the coupe version is previewed.

[antony]

One of the things that I love most about my Euro,is how AMAZINGLY smooth it is.

I have an auto ,5 speed,my previous car was a Jetta,6 speed auto,and this is much smoother...

[Euro_CU2]

Nice White Euro...

[Euro-W000p5]

Nice car mate. My luxury got ordered yesterday (white as well :D) can't wait till it gets here. Can anyone link me to a fairly updated accessories price list?? I remember seeing it in one of the threads but I can't remember which one. Cheers

[antony]

[QUOTE=Euro-W000p5;3203950]Nice car mate. My luxury got ordered yesterday (white as well :D) can't wait till it gets here.

Awesome car you are getting,when is delivery ???

What car do you drive at the moment,and what otherts,if any,did you consider in adition to the Euro ???

[pitiek]

Buddah, I noticed that you have only the rear mud guard on your euro.
Any particular reason for that?
With the increasing rain fall in Brissie, I'm about to order a mud guard set from my dealer for $149 not-fitted.
Is it easy to DIY?

[buddah51au]

Buddah, I noticed that you have only the rear mud guard on your euro.
Any particular reason for that?
With the increasing rain fall in Brissie, I'm about to order a mud guard set from my dealer for $149 not-fitted.
Is it easy to DIY?

I needed to wait for the installation of the ventureshield clear bra before I fitted the front ones, they are now on the car.

It is a very easy DIY, just use 3 existing screws at the rear, on the front 2 screws go through the plastic retaining lugs, re use the inner screw

[Jones Boy]

nice looking rims mate - they look a tad familiar!!

cheers

[denot]

nice looking rims mate - they look a tad familiar!!

cheers

LOL are you talking about the OP (buddah) rims? They are the OEM 18" :p

[Jones Boy]

Nah they were mine!!

looking good big John!!! Enjoy!!

[denot]

Nah they were mine!!

looking good big John!!! Enjoy!!

LOL, so he bought it from you heheheh They're in a good hand now Jones Boy. :)

Let us see yours then!

[buddah51au]

Might go rusty soon Denot, they haven't moved for a month now, just collecting dust.

[pitiek]

http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff500/pitiek/71b12fe3.jpg

http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff500/pitiek/398c2617.jpg

Sorry to hijack your thread buddah, I just need to get an idea on what has happened to my bonnet and how to remove this marks.
I was driving to Ipswich yesterday and it was raining a bit on my way back to Brisbane and I found these spots covering my bonnet and roof this afternoon. I used water and cloth to dab the spots but they have seem to cut through the duragloss sealant or worst the clear paint.

Does anyone know what cause this and what should I use to remove it..?

I'm panicking..!! So any help will be appreciatedz

Cheers...

[ryaan]

man that looks like the crap falling from trees :S you mustve parked under a tree?

[pitiek]

That's a negative. I always watch where I parked, no trees or powerline.
I gave it a good wash after work this arvo and it's now almost gone after I use turtle wax bug and tar remover but I can still feel that the duragloss sealant are gone when you glide your fingers over the bonnet where the spots were.
Does anyone know if I need to remove the sealant before applying another layer or sealant?

[buddah51au]

Turtle wax bug & tar remover will remove some sealant, just re apply. What car wash do you use? You need a good quality one.

Those spots could be anything from bird droppings, tree sap, acid rain, etc.

[pitiek]

I use the duragloss concentrate from carcareproducts.
What should I use to remove the remaining sealant before reapplying buddah?
I haven't got a random orbital since it is quite expensive...

[buddah51au]

I don't think it is that long since you applied the sealant, so I would just go over the car again. I always apply 2 layers of sealant to start, but re apply a few months later if required. I also use duragloss concentrate.

[pitiek]

I applied two layers of sealant leas than 3 weeks ago.
So I just need to wash, clay bar then reapply the 111 without the 601?

[buddah51au]

If you clay bar i would use the 601 as well