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charliebrown
08-11-2011, 10:24 AM
Hey guys,

Did a bit of searching but didn't find exactly what i was looking for so putting this in the noob forum to avoid the haters.

I checked out a car the other day and discovered a few problems. One was the car launches feeling like its gonna stall (someone else drove it so it's not that i can't drive stick). Also the tacho needle bounces up and down when accelerating so you can't see accurately what revs you're at (say you're at 3k rpm, the needle will oscillate between 2k and 4k). Seller says the CSC needs a rebleed and that it'll fix both the shuddering problem and tacho. My mechanic on the other hand said the flywheel needs machining but seller said thats not the case.

In addition, the car was not driven for 3 months and low on fluids.

The seller is willing to take $600 off the price.
Just wanting to get your opinions on what is wrong and how to fix it and if it will be expensive. I plan to replace all fluids anyway

Not sure if any more information is needed to diagnose the problem. The car is EFI if that matters

Cheers :)

mocchi
08-11-2011, 10:51 AM
does the engine shudder as the tacho jumps?

welcome abourd member!!

charliebrown
08-11-2011, 11:07 AM
Engine accels smooth throughout the rev range, just the tacho spastic. Maybe the wires or dizzy? and should i be feeling or hearing a vtec kick on the d16y8?

mocchi
08-11-2011, 11:11 AM
probably the dizzy gona koo koo.
any other d dizzy you can test?

BoostnDC2
08-11-2011, 11:11 AM
Engine accels smooth throughout the rev range, just the tacho spastic. Maybe the wires or dizzy? and should i be feeling or hearing a vtec kick on the d16y8?
Sounds like it needs a distributor
Also, there will be no vtec kick on a d16y8

Bludger
08-11-2011, 11:11 AM
he needs to buy the car before he can play with it.

charliebrown
08-11-2011, 11:15 AM
Dizzys are costly right? :S Are you talking the whole dizzy or just the cap

BoostnDC2
08-11-2011, 11:32 AM
Dizzys are costly right? :S Are you talking the whole dizzy or just the cap
whole dizzy.
d-series dizzy's are cheap

Bludger
08-11-2011, 11:35 AM
Won't need a whole one, might just be this
http://www.mpgautoparts.com/30130p06006.jpg

there is DIY on how to replace.

buy the car 1st....

mocchi
08-11-2011, 11:38 AM
is this your second daily? what happened to your daily?

charliebrown
08-11-2011, 12:05 PM
2nd car to learn stick. Then when i get my manual license ill sell the teg.

So you guys reckon buy the car?

It's a 94 EG VTi. 180xxx. 3800 with rwc

mocchi
08-11-2011, 12:08 PM
2nd car to learn stick. Then when i get my manual license ill sell the teg.

So you guys reckon buy the car?

It's a 94 EG VTi. 180xxx. 3800 with rwc

especially a 2nd daily....

Bludger
08-11-2011, 12:08 PM
So you guys reckon buy the car?


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZquKRzrDFQI/ToLrAu8ZrsI/AAAAAAAAAhE/mKG6EtYkONM/s200/Hold+the+Hand.jpg

u mad?
08-11-2011, 12:46 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZquKRzrDFQI/ToLrAu8ZrsI/AAAAAAAAAhE/mKG6EtYkONM/s200/Hold+the+Hand.jpg

lol



op don't by that piece of shit.

wait for a decent dc2 vtir to pop up for sale.

Bludger
08-11-2011, 12:50 PM
he want's to learn how to handle that knob before he gets manual license, nomsayin.....

charliebrown
08-11-2011, 01:14 PM
I need a 'driver under instruction' sign... cos you know, i obey the law. Cannot find :( must be black and yellow

charliebrown
08-11-2011, 04:44 PM
Ok so does the problem have anything to do with flywheel needing machining or CSC need rebleeding? Cos flywheel hella expensive lah

Bludger
08-11-2011, 04:47 PM
An unbalanced flywheel will cause shudder when you release the clutch pedal to engage drive, directly at the frictrion point. It will never be unbalanced to the point of making the tachometer bounce up and down.

Doubt the clutch slave cylinder will cause shudder, not to my knowledge.

tiksie
08-11-2011, 04:49 PM
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lol

charliebrown
08-11-2011, 05:06 PM
Ok so the flywheel is ****ed... shudder at friction point

Bludger
08-11-2011, 05:45 PM
It's not ****ed, it's unbalanced.

Happens when you change clutch and don't machine the flywheel.

has nothing to do with tachometer jumping up and down.

You can keep driving like that and nothing detrimental will happen, Just shudder, caused by lazy clutch install.

grifty
08-11-2011, 06:01 PM
If the tacho is going spastic then theres a loose wire on the iginition control module. easy fix and doesnt cost you anything.

charliebrown
12-11-2011, 11:25 PM
Alright the bounce is similar to this video. Skip to 0:18. BUT my issue does the bouncing all throughout the rev range not just in vtec.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHo4KSK0ssk

Bludger
13-11-2011, 12:01 AM
read the comments in the video.

answer is there.

mooshie
13-11-2011, 12:44 AM
If the tacho is going spastic then theres a loose wire on the iginition control module. easy fix and doesnt cost you anything.Agreed. Take off cap, tighten connectors and put som dielectric grease in there for a perfect connection. Shudder is a separate issue