93' H22A Build

[YLD-H22]

Had my first taste of Vtec today after buying a Prelude Si Vtec with the JDM H22A engine. :cool:

1993
Si Vtec (H22A)
125 XXX km's

Got some simple plans for it so far, but going to build it up nice and slow...

- Extractors + Exhaust
- K&N intake
- Vtec controller (need some info on this)
- Lightened flywheel
- Get it lowered (but not dumped!)
- HID's 8000k
- Install the new sound system that's patiently waiting in my garage

That's all i got so far and they'l be happening over the next few weeks. If anyone has any suggestions or opinions, feel free to let them loose.

:honda:
Bob

[YLD-H22]

Here she is.. :o

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/9666/preludew.jpg

[Bludger]

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i157/1900-hustler/6f8100e0.jpghttp://static2.ozhonda.com/forum/images/misc/ozhonda_logo.jpg

[Vvvtec]

Welcome abourd!!!!

Looks nice, enjoy it

[curtis265]

Kit looks nice!

do some handling work :D

[simmy]

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i157/1900-hustler/6f8100e0.jpg

[jeremydawg]

Here she is.. :o

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/9666/preludew.jpg

Welcome abourd.

Great nice car mate. First thing i would do is take off that front bumper and put back the original.

[EKVTIR-T]

He just bought it like that,doubt he got the oem bar.

Its a jdm...bro

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rMu42fxKTBA/TqbtJPePYTI/AAAAAAAAAi4/SpOH31BO1eA/s320/Hipster+Sunglasses+-+The+Breakfast+Club+Film.jpg

[jeremydawg]

^lol, ah yes... i worded my sentence incorrectly. What i meant was he should get ridz of it and get an originaz back on.

[YLD-H22]

Thanks for taking me on bourd. The bumpers staying on, at least until all performance work is complete :D Or i might keep it on... will decide in time.

Can anyone suggest a type of springs or coilovers to increase handling and drop the height? I feel like I'm driving a truck.

[jeremydawg]

Bam!
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BC-Racing-Coilovers-suit-HONDA-PRELUDE-92-01-/200674567802?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2eb922e67a#ht_1799wt_1163

or just get some pedders

[YLD-H22]

Now if I were to announce that my budget for these is $200 for now, what would you suggest i do? lol

[EKVTIR-T]

$200 bucks hmm used lowering springs,not much other choices

[Vvvtec]

Lol $200 will not get you very far.

Add a 1 before the 2 and you should get yourself something very handy. Those BC Racing coils are quiet good.

[EKVTIR-T]

$1200 Made in Taiwan no thankyou :)

[jeremydawg]

yeah $200 isnt much to work with.

just gonna have to start saving.

there is a cheaper range will just have to look around. can check firesport for 2nd hand coilovers
http://firesport.com.au/search.php?searchword=prelude+coilovers

Or you could get these lol
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/93-96-97-01-HONDA-PRELUDE-COILOVERS-LOWERING-SPRING-RED-/380305076772?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item588bf2f224#ht_1829wt_1396

[YLD-H22]

Sounds good, i better start saving and searching then. Ebay lol nah i don't want springs made of plastic :P

[GSi_PSi]

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/0/6/2/5/3/5/webimg/386181082_o.jpg?nc=251

Makita lowering kit.....do it

[jeremydawg]

Loooooooool

[YLD-H22]

Lmao no thanks GSi !




Installed some aqua parkers yesterday :cool: was a pain in the arse doing it at night but worth it at the end

http://i40.tinypic.com/b7b8so.jpg

[Bludger]

noooo

[YLD-H22]

noooo

why ? :(

[u mad?]

http://www.shiokfood.com/images/rice.jpg

[u mad?]

haha j/ks bro, mod it how you want to.

[YLD-H22]

It's going to look sweet with the HID's hopefully

What you talking about bro, vtec runs of rice ;)

[Bludger]

NOOOOOOOOOo

plesase nooooo

prepare to get high beamed from me

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u19/bau_fug/IMG_20110722_225643.jpg

[YLD-H22]

'sif you don't like blue ?

[jeremydawg]

lol, well some people like, others no likey.

Personally i would just get a normal white led. Like the bludger! looks awesome

[Bludger]

I don't like getting dazzled by people using unroadworthy headlights, just to look 'cool'

[Bludger]

lol, well some people like, others no likey.

Personally i would just get a normal white led. Like the bludger! looks awesome
that picture, they're all standard globes.

The picture just has a blue tint to it......

[jeremydawg]

srs! looks sik!

[EKVTIR-T]

I could live with blue parkers on cars if they banned HID totally.

I despise them oem or aftermarket

[EKVTIR-T]

btw its illegal to use foglights unless it actually is foggy conditions yet every tool who wants to look cool uses them at night

[Bludger]

I could live with blue parkers on cars if they banned HID totally.

I despise them oem or aftermarket
I don't mind it.

Just hate all the honda's running around with them.

[jeremydawg]

hid's are quite scrap indeed. less vision then normal bulbs and blinding to others. unless you get the right k

[Bludger]

hid's are quite scrap indeed. less vision then normal bulbs and blinding to others. unless you get the right k
well, that's the problem isn't it.
the norm people buy these days is 6 or 8

[jeremydawg]

yeah should be around 4100k. kids these days

[Bludger]

nice av

[YLD-H22]

4.7k is the strongest and most blinding with 6k being the second strongest and 8k being weaker than both. 8k looks the best and doesn't blind people as much as the ugly yellow 4.7k :)

[Bludger]

8k looks the best and doesn't blind people as much as the ugly yellow 4.7k :)
how did you come to this conclusion?

[YLD-H22]

Search it anywhere, 4.7k is known to be the strongest HID light. And seriously, blue 8k lights look really neat.

[EKVTIR-T]

http://www.meccaone.org/images/hid-chart.jpg

[Bludger]

kids these days
werd.

[EKVTIR-T]

http://img14.mediafire.com/d738fbb312a6fa381d07ebcddd8fbe846g.jpg

[YLD-H22]

Thanks :D There's my proof ..

[YLD-H22]

Ahh.. nice sig Jeremey. Maybe one day you'l be famous enough to be in mine? then my aunty will give you a cookie :)

[jeremydawg]

Thanks :D There's my proof ..



http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lt57q9A0gR1qfh0tl.png

[u mad?]

Thanks :D There's my proof ..

hurrrrrrrr

[Bludger]

Thanks :D There's my proof ..
just shows how ignorant towards other road users.....

one last thing before i unsubscribe.

I'ts not how bright the light is, it's where the light is pointing.

[YLD-H22]

Where's this ignorance?

Yea that can be changed.. you can make your stock bulbs point at people's faces too ..

[GSi_PSi]

Dude prepare your anus for the copper that see's those blue led parkers.

[jeremydawg]

Where's this ignorance?

Yea that can be changed.. you can make your stock bulbs point at people's faces too ..

let me answer your question



the truth is out there...

The universe is bursting with life! But it's at the next density level,4th density and up,4d,which is the astral plane,the place we go when we dream.

We are at 3rd density,the physical plane.

There are many groups of 'alien' types who service the self sts or service to others sto at levels 4 and 6.5d is the place our true spirit goes after physical death,it is the contemplation zone a place of 'timeless understanding' where you have a range of emotions in profound clarity.

5th density is also called 'the soul recycling zone'.we review the physical life just passed and according to our 'karmic profile' we re-incarnate accordingly.we all have a 'karmic resonance profile'... Can u think what that could be?

Anyway,all this nonsense will be over soon!

Soon a-itu (spirit) will once again be re-united with the one,the divine,our home as true spirited beings,7th density.


1st and 2nd densitys are on the physical plane...

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.ph....html#msg16971

[YLD-H22]

What did i just read? lol.

Yea we all have no defects don't we -.-

[EKVTIR-T]

Jeremys one of those space cadet astral travellers trying to get you on bourd too lol

[curtis265]

Thanks :D There's my proof ..

proof of what o.0?

do wat u want man, it's your car, but in no way does a blue headilght look better than clean 4700k whites..

oem HID's in euro cars are around 4300k and they are considerably whiter than your 'ugly yellow 4.7k'

[Bludger]

had high hopes for this thread/vehicle.

Jost another sohcvteccivic wanna be dolsol.

only it's the prelude version.

[GSi_PSi]

we all have defects true, but every single person i know who has rocked those blue leds when they first got there p's has been dicked for them...
the cops see it straight away and they will pull you over no questions asked, its a traffic hazard as the only cars allowed to have blue or red lights are
ambulampz and coppers,coppers punch them in the face.

[YLD-H22]

Okay ordering WHITE parkers with 8000k HID's tomorrow hopefully.

Half the system is in. Got the subs cranking but the speakers are still in progress. :)

Is it usually this hard to get on bourd !?

[EKVTIR-T]

lol you caved to the e-pressure

Theyre right though,blue parkers can be attractive to the po-lice

[Bludger]

Okay ordering WHITE parkers with 8000k HID's tomorrow hopefully.

Half the system is in. Got the subs cranking but the speakers are still in progress. :)

Is it usually this hard to get on bourd !?
before you put on the xenon lights, park your lude up against a wall and see where your light cutoff line is, on your low beams.....

After you install the xenons, park it in the same spot and have a look at how the light disperses.

try to adjust it as close as possible to the original light output.

failing to do this, you will see my high beams.

Welcome abourd.

[YLD-H22]

I aint scared of the po-lice.
Just kidding.

Bludger il do it just for you, but gimme a buck ?

[Wru]

A good cold air intake with a nice pod filter and a good full exhaust system (headers, catback, axelback) will net a good amount of power for the cost and make the car sound 10 times better.

Save up for some good adjustable coilovers I highly recommend it over just replacing springs.

Don't waste your time on a vtec controller the vtec engagement point that it is set at now is ideal unless you've changed some internals and had a retune, then lowering or raising your vtec engagement point might net some gains.

Get a heavy duty clutch instead of the flywheel yes they do give you a bit of extra responsiveness, but the heavy duty clutch will benefit alot more when driving uhhh enthusiastically.

The HID's are a definite yes.
And yeah sound system is nice as long as you aren't driving around the main street of town with it maxed out and rattling the whole ****en car.

I suggest you remove the spoiler too gives the car a much cleaner look.

This is my old 93 lude with a type s h22a from the 5th gens swapped in.
http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/6637/23113411186258556391510.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/847/23113411186258556391510.jpg/)

[Wru]

Oh almost forgot, SWAY BARS GET SOME SWAY BARS ASAP BEFORE ANYTHING.

[YLD-H22]

Looks sexy !

Ahh where do i start, thats a really helpful post lol.

Cold air intake and full exhaust is ofcourse my first goal in the performance wishlist, just need to save up a bit.. Do you know approximately how much it will cost for each piece?

Coilovers may take a while for me to get the money for :( but i really hope i get a chance to grab them.

I'm not 100% sure about the vtec controllers purpose lol but i heard it controls where the vtec kicks in. It currently kicks in about 5500 rpm. When i redline (7450 rpm) and i change gears, the rpm drops to about 4600 rpm then it takes another 900 rpm for vtec to kick in again! Sorry if i didn't explain that properly but i hope you get me.

I like my clutch :P but im not sure what clutch it is, feels really good though.

The sounds system.. yea rattles a bit lol but im still working on it to make it sound as clean as possible. Should be buying a nice pioneer head unit today aswell :)

The spoilers staying on! even though yours looks so good without it lol. But i just dont get how it costs alot to remove a spoiler just because of them two holes.

Sway bars - Front and rear done ! They make the handling so nice and smooth.

[Wru]

Cold air intake and full exhaust is ofcourse my first goal in the performance wishlist, just need to save up a bit.. Do you know approximately how much it will cost for each piece?
Depends where from, what brand, if it's custom, what your budget is etc it's a hard question to answer.
I mean for headers alone you can spend like $150 on some cheapy dc sports ebay headers, or all the way up to $1000 for a set of bisimoto's or toda's.


I'm not 100% sure about the vtec controllers purpose lol but i heard it controls where the vtec kicks in. It currently kicks in about 5500 rpm. When i redline (7450 rpm) and i change gears, the rpm drops to about 4600 rpm then it takes another 900 rpm for vtec to kick in again! Sorry if i didn't explain that properly but i hope you get me.

5500 seems a bit high for vtec on a h22a, don't quote me on this but thought it was meant to be 4800 rpm for h22a's, my old preludes was at 4800 and my civics at 4800 which has a h22a from a 5th gen type s prelude as well.
Maybe it's cause mine was the Type S model?
Regardless, it won't get any benefits without a proper tune/replacing some interals such as more aggro cams, all you'll do by changing the crossover point is stuff things up and probably lose power, the engines designed with a certain vtec engagement point which is based off the components and current tune of the engine such as the profile of the cams, the tune it is currently set to etc.


I like my clutch :P but im not sure what clutch it is, feels really good though.
Just cause it feels nice doesn't mean it's any good... often some heavy duty clutches make it feel like you're shifting gears in a bus, but at high RPM when shifting really fast makes it a hell of a lot better.


But i just dont get how it costs alot to remove a spoiler just because of them two holes.
You need to fill in the holes with putty, sand the bonnet back and respray it atleast 3-4 hours of labour right there. (That's if it's done properly)

[YLD-H22]

Thanks alot Wru. I'm looking mostly at getting a cold air intake setup at the moment since it's a really cheap performance upgrade and will probably fit my current budget :)

[YLD-H22]

Okay guys I want to service my lude. Since you all know a lot more about Preludes than me could someone hit me up with specifically everything I should buy?

[integragsi96]

Depends where from, what brand, if it's custom, what your budget is etc it's a hard question to answer.
I mean for headers alone you can spend like $150 on some cheapy dc sports ebay headers, or all the way up to $1000 for a set of bisimoto's or toda's.



5500 seems a bit high for vtec on a h22a, don't quote me on this but thought it was meant to be 4800 rpm for h22a's, my old preludes was at 4800 and my civics at 4800 which has a h22a from a 5th gen type s prelude as well.
Maybe it's cause mine was the Type S model?
Regardless, it won't get any benefits without a proper tune/replacing some interals such as more aggro cams, all you'll do by changing the crossover point is stuff things up and probably lose power, the engines designed with a certain vtec engagement point which is based off the components and current tune of the engine such as the profile of the cams, the tune it is currently set to etc.


Just cause it feels nice doesn't mean it's any good... often some heavy duty clutches make it feel like you're shifting gears in a bus, but at high RPM when shifting really fast makes it a hell of a lot better.


You need to fill in the holes with putty, sand the bonnet back and respray it atleast 3-4 hours of labour right there. (That's if it's done properly)

the h22a type s is the higher revving engine mate.
my 5th gen crossovers at 5200 or 5500. then and valve bounce is at 7800.. if its higher revving you are after do the h22a type s engine conversion.

[MRJDM]

H22 does not need to rev its ass off like a b series to make power rev @ 7800 is ample. Its called tq. Just call for the correct engine combo. H2b setups are reving @ 7500-7800 and running 11sec + with bolt on mods.

H22 need to breath, I'd suggest a 3 inch exhaust will be loud but will give u good Gaines, many people may disagree but time an time again its been proven on the dyno. as wru said a good header system bisimoto, Rmf replicas or hytec replicas are good.
68mm throttle body, type s intake manifold.

[Wru]

Okay guys I want to service my lude. Since you all know a lot more about Preludes than me could someone hit me up with specifically everything I should buy?

Always get quality oils and change them every 5000km
Bit of injector cleaner can be handy every 10000km or so
Get throttle body and parts cleaner to clean your spark plugs and throttle body combine that with a good scrubbing
If your spark plugs are black as shit just get new ones
NGK PZFR6-11 are the best for h22's

Personally I just pay a mechanic to do a full service and clean my spark plugs, throttle body and anything else that could use a scrub once every 3 months.
Saves me alot of time drop it there on a monday go to work knock off and pick it up that arvo.

[YLD-H22]

I'l most likely end up doing the service with my mechanic to stay on the safe side :)

If all goes well, will have my ~2.75" cold air intake system with a K&N pod soon !

[ThePacman]

let me answer your question



the truth is out there...

The universe is bursting with life! But it's at the next density level,4th density and up,4d,which is the astral plane,the place we go when we dream.

We are at 3rd density,the physical plane.

There are many groups of 'alien' types who service the self sts or service to others sto at levels 4 and 6.5d is the place our true spirit goes after physical death,it is the contemplation zone a place of 'timeless understanding' where you have a range of emotions in profound clarity.

5th density is also called 'the soul recycling zone'.we review the physical life just passed and according to our 'karmic profile' we re-incarnate accordingly.we all have a 'karmic resonance profile'... Can u think what that could be?

Anyway,all this nonsense will be over soon!

Soon a-itu (spirit) will once again be re-united with the one,the divine,our home as true spirited beings,7th density.


1st and 2nd densitys are on the physical plane...

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.ph....html#msg16971

Sounds like somene has enjoyed 1 too manny anal probings.....!! LOL

[YLD-H22]

Haha yea i wana find out what the hec he was smoking cos i want some :D

[H22]

Regardless, it won't get any benefits without a proper tune/replacing some interals such as more aggro cams, all you'll do by changing the crossover point is stuff things up and probably lose power, the engines designed with a certain vtec engagement point which is based off the components and current tune of the engine such as the profile of the cams, the tune it is currently set to etc.

^This
As long as your ECU aint tuned for that exact crossover, ur car will run lean and you will loose power, running lean will make your engine suffer, also your wallet int the end. If you want lower VTEC engagement, get a tunable ECU and have it retuned as for your wishes. Could be everywhere from p28 with Chrome, Neptune, Hondata to a simple piggyback. Hondata IMO is a bit overkill tho for this kind of build.

VTEC controllers should only be put in a car with at least some kind of tuning device, cheapest route is a piggyback wich probably would work gor your build. but best way is an tunable ecu.

[integragsi96]

why not just go and get a hondata s100? their basic!

[YLD-H22]

Thanks for the info H22. Vtec controller is now out of the list :) and hopefully il find a cheap hondata s100 when I'm in need of one..

A picture taken on the M4: :)
http://m.flickr.com/photos/72102617@N07/6512246885/lightbox/

[H22]

no problem.
Or you just looking up a chipped p28 and uses any of NepTune, Crome, eCtune, Uberdata wich will be just as good or even better than hondata s100 with your setup. It doesnt really matter in this case, just to choose one that your nearest tuner can handle the best.

Who won? ;)

[YLD-H22]

Before any chips I wana find a full exhaust system :)
Update; the system is finally completed after waiting 1 month to get my faulty amp fixed !

Who do you think ? V12 vs Vtec ;)

[H22]

Sweet!

Hah! I was hoping vtec, but I have to say loss :P

[Timsfifthgen]

if you still want a lightweight flywheel, ive got a brand new never used one let me know

[YLD-H22]

Sweet!

Hah! I was hoping vtec, but I have to say loss :P

As unpredictable as it seems, i did lose :( haha next time il get him!


if you still want a lightweight flywheel, ive got a brand new never used one let me know

Il Pm you but i wont be buying one anytime soon, thanks alot though buddy

[YLD-H22]

New speakers installed !

6" splits in the front, 6.5" in the rear and a single 6x9 in the centre between the two back seats. All Soundstream. Will post pics up soon :)

Also a pair of 4-way 6.5" Xplods under the drivers seat and passenger seat for that surround sound :cool:

Two amps needed to run all these, 7 speakers + a pair of tweeters all up :thumbsup:

[Bludger]

what is the purpose of the 6x9?

[curtis265]

Easy bass without having a sub

[YLD-H22]

The 6x9 is basically for show, I cut the plastic centre out between the back seats and stuck it on. There's a pair of pioneer subs in the boot actually ^^ I love my music loud.

[YLD-H22]

http://instagr.am/p/eHeGl/

Not sure if I can upload pics with my iPhone so here's the link to the centre speaker.. Bit messy with wires around

http://instagr.am/p/eHeGl/

[Bludger]

lol, ruined it.

[YLD-H22]

Keep your negative opinions to yourself, twill be much appreciated by all. :)

Preludes were first made with a speaker in that spot, stock.

[Bludger]

Keep your negative opinions to yourself, twill be much appreciated by all. :)

Preludes were first made with a speaker in that spot, stock.
umm, lmzoooo

this is a public forum.

you post up pictures of your car for people to see.

not everyone likes your taste.

I like some things you've done with your car, but I despise the HID lights and that speaker.

cop it on the chin little boy or else just don't post.

that way, you'll never receive negative comments.











sure, they may well have a speaker in that spot stock, doesn't mean I have to like it, let alone an ugly 6x9.

[u mad?]

haha fukin bludger, telling it like it is since 2005.

[TbM]

The 6x9 is basically for show, I cut the plastic centre out between the back seats and stuck it on. There's a pair of pioneer subs in the boot actually ^^ I love my music loud.
If the 6x9 is there for show replace it with something that actualy looks appealing, cheap 6x9 isnt anything to show off, replace it with a decent set of components. Also run the wires so you cant see them, looks like it was installed by an untrained chimp.

Are the speakers under your seat just running free air or have you enclosed them?

[YLD-H22]

Most of my system is soundstream and I personally find soundstream clear and loud, it's not cheap il tell you that >.<
The wires are all hidden now, not a single one sight
Under the seats there sort off free air.. But I tuned them low so there clear

So are we free to say whatever we want to each other ?

[YLD-H22]

Bludger, get a life :)

[TbM]

Most of my system is soundstream and I personally find soundstream clear and loud, it's not cheap il tell you that >.<
The wires are all hidden now, not a single one sight
Under the seats there sort off free air.. But I tuned them low so there clear

So are we free to say whatever we want to each other ?
I was refering to the 6x9 not soundstream in general, you havent named the other parts used so i can only go on the pic provided. The 6x9 looks to be an arachnid if im not mistaken? I spent more on cabling/wiring for my car than a set of archnids go for these days ergo i think its cheap and nothing to "show off". Also the main point is a decent set of components > 6x9.

Good to hear you have run the cables properly:thumbsup: Looks dodgy when there are cables running around the cabin.

You need to enclose the speakers, make a shallow box out of mdf. Runing speakers free air and under a seat is pointless IMO. Having speakers under your seat doesnt give you suround sound either, just gives you 2 poorly placed speakers running stereo output....

[Bludger]

So are we free to say whatever we want to each other ?

whats so great about this country and this forum is that we're free to express our thoughts and views.


Bludger, get a life :)

This does not include cheap insults. weather they have a smiley face or not.

[curtis265]

So when's the h22 bit of the build start?

and sorry but i think that spider looks horrible too

[YLD-H22]

Say whatever you want about the speakers, there loud, clear and I like em. :)


I installed my k&n Apollo kit this morning, ran it from the air filter box straight to the bottom where it's just visible from outside. Cold air made a bigger difference than I thought.. Any negative opinions on that? Go hard :)

For all you haters, the HIDs will be in soon.

[Vvvtec]

Your going to love reading through this a couple years from now :thumbsup:

Good luck with the HID's :)

[Bludger]

Any negative opinions on that? Go hard :)


inb4suckinawholeheapofwaterandthenhydrolock.

[ThePacman]

inb4suckinawholeheapofwaterandthenhydrolock.

Kinda with Bludger on this one. (Shock horror, but he kinda has a point)

If your having your filter outside the engine bay, i'd recoment leaving it just through the hole for the resinator.
If you remove the air intake resonator, and put the air filter where it was, but keep it as high as possible.
Its amazing how many Hondas die of hydrolock. The intake just has to get covered with water for a fraction of a second to suck in a fatal amount of water.

Sure, your driving habits may make it perfectly safe, my intake is kinda low also. But my car is only driven WHEN I WANT TO.

So, if this position suits you, and your driving habits. Go for it son.
But if this is a daily driver, consider getting the intake a little higher.... It'll still work higher. Maybe even a tad better with a shorter intake...??!!

Just a few things to consider...

A H22 requires an air intake of around 40 litres a second. @ 5000 RPM
And needs less than 5 teaspoons of fluid among that 40 litres per second of air to totally destroy a motor FOREVER. (no hope of a rebuild)

But, as I said befor. If these facts work in ok with your driving habits. Feel free dude.

[Bludger]

Kinda with Bludger on this one. (Shock horror, but he kinda has a point)

If your having your filter outside the engine bay, i'd recoment leaving it just through the hole for the resinator.
If you remove the air intake resonator, and put the air filter where it was, but keep it as high as possible.
Its amazing how many Hondas die of hydrolock. The intake just has to get covered with water for a fraction of a second to suck in a fatal amount of water.

Sure, your driving habits may make it perfectly safe, my intake is kinda low also. But my car is only driven WHEN I WANT TO.

So, if this position suits you, and your driving habits. Go for it son.
But if this is a daily driver, consider getting the intake a little higher.... It'll still work higher. Maybe even a tad better with a shorter intake...??!!

Just a few things to consider...

A H22 requires an air intake of around 40 litres a second.
And needs less than 5 teaspoons of fluid among that 40 litres per second of air to totally destroy a motor FOREVER. (no hope of a rebuild)

But, as I said befor. If these facts work in ok with your driving habits. Feel free dude.the worst thing is when peple post up stories that they've heard or have read somewhere.

I like the posts where people post up personal experience or where they have done a lot of research on the area.

[integragsi96]

the worst thing is when peple post up stories that they've heard or have read somewhere.

I like the posts where people post up personal experience or where they have done a lot of research on the area.

My old DC4 had a DIY CAI and sat very low in the front bar. car was 9cm to the ground and on my first engine (after 2 -3 weeks of getting it and my red p's in newcastle) i had no way to avoid a massive puddle (more like a pond) and water went up and over my bonnet 9big splash). the car ran rough for about 2 weeks (just getting the car i didnt know much about it) and finally the bottom end bearing gave up. that was an expensive fix.
my BB6 is lower with the pod filter (injen cai) actually sits fairly high to try to avoid that mistake.

[curtis265]

Say whatever you want about the speakers, there loud, clear and I like em. :)


I installed my k&n Apollo kit this morning, ran it from the air filter box straight to the bottom where it's just visible from outside. Cold air made a bigger difference than I thought.. Any negative opinions on that? Go hard :)

For all you haters, the HIDs will be in soon.

What i find is that theairbox is sort of drawing air from that low area anyway, so if you remove the foglight cover it should be drawing cold air anyway.

[integragsi96]

What i find is that theairbox is sort of drawing air from that low area anyway, so if you remove the foglight cover it should be drawing cold air anyway.

but the airbox also retricts the air with the valve in it

[curtis265]

*sry i menat after u rip out the resonator

[integragsi96]

*sry i menat after u rip out the resonator

Ahh yep

[YLD-H22]

My filter is in its original spot, I just ran a pipe (Apollo kit) from the bumper to the filter so it sucks in only cold air. It's possible for water to run up there but only little drops that would hopefully not make it through the whole pipe

[YLD-H22]

If anyone knows of someone selling headers and exhaust suited for the h22a could you let me know :) I want to start looking at prices. Also, any suggestions on what air/pod filter I should get? I currently have the stock air box.

[u mad?]

injen intake
tri-y header
high flow metal cat
2.5" exhaust with resonanter and muffler
hondata s300+ tune

thats like $3.5-4k worth of shit right there (cheaper if you buy used, instal yourself ect) including labour and tuning, expect around 125-130kw atw


and if you wanna be a deadly kunt you can:

3" exhaust
skunk2 intake mani port matched for bigger tb
70mm tb

thats like another $1.2-1.5k, expect 135-140kw atw


car would still be slow though because its a heavy ass prelude lol


my conclusion: leave it stock lmao

[GSi_PSi]

What lags the prelude is the gay ass gearbox in it, drops out of vtec sometimes.
Makes the car feel soooo slow. I had a bb4 with jun cams, higher comp, aftermarket comp pushing out like 145kw.
I would go for a final drive upgrade to at least something decent vs the 4.2fd

[YLD-H22]

That's pretty far off my current budget lol. I don't know much about these .. http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=170758561135&index=0&nav=SEARCH&nid=65039441637 what's your opinion ?

[YLD-H22]

What lags the prelude is the gay ass gearbox in it, drops out of vtec sometimes.
Makes the car feel soooo slow. I had a bb4 with jun cams, higher comp, aftermarket comp pushing out like 145kw.
I would go for a final drive upgrade to at least something decent vs the 4.2fd

Yea I know exactly what your talking about. It's avoidable though and usually drops from the chirp after changing gears quickly

[u mad?]

My mate put a 4.68 fd in his h series gb, car runs alot better, though its not really a cheap mod for what you get back.
i'd hate to see the quality of the shit in that link.

[ThePacman]

the worst thing is when peple post up stories that they've heard or have read somewhere.

I like the posts where people post up personal experience or where they have done a lot of research on the area.

When I talk about cars dieing from hydrolock, it's pretty much personal experience.
Although not my cars of corse.

I drive an RACQ tow truck. 1 of only 2 specially designed for high performance cars.

Whenever we get big rains, I can almost be assured of getting a hydrolock or 2.

And all types of cars. Everything from new HSVs with poorly designed CAIs. To the boy racer mob with AG pipe home made CAIs hangin put the front.

My point there is, just cause you bought it from a shop. Don't assume it's safe... LOL

[Bludger]

it's pretty much personal experience.
I was not having a go at you my friend. Just merely a statement so others don't post up shit.

[YLD-H22]

Here's a pic of the apollo kit .. http://instagr.am/p/f42zx/

So what do you think of the eBay full exhaust system for only $200 ? Will it do the same job as an expensive one?

[ThePacman]

I was not having a go at you my friend. Just merely a statement so others don't post up shit.

Meh.... Wasn't too sure which way to take it....

Not the type to take offence anyhow.... Just thought i'd clarify...

(I gotta admit though, I LOVE my job....!!)

[ThePacman]

What lags the prelude is the gay ass gearbox in it, drops out of vtec sometimes.
Makes the car feel soooo slow. I had a bb4 with jun cams, higher comp, aftermarket comp pushing out like 145kw.
I would go for a final drive upgrade to at least something decent vs the 4.2fd

If your tune is right< and all works well enough that you can bring your crossover down effectivly.... Gear changes without dropping out of Vtec is possable....

[GSi_PSi]

If your tune is right< and all works well enough that you can bring your crossover down effectivly.... Gear changes without dropping out of Vtec is possable....

id rather look into dc2r box swap, now that would make the car a weapon !

[YLD-H22]

Will a lightened flywheel reduce the chance of dropping out of Vtec during gear changes?

[curtis265]

no, you need to change your gear ratios or change the vtec point for that

[GSi_PSi]

had a chat wid a dude with em1 h22a he said he changed his final drive to a 4.66, doesnt drop out now and much better accelleration

[integragsi96]

had a chat wid a dude with em1 h22a he said he changed his final drive to a 4.66, doesnt drop out now and much better accelleration

but it would be revving its arse off on the hwy tho

[YLD-H22]

Yea that's not worth it, I sit on 2.9 on the highway already lol

Does anyone know the price range for a tune?

[YLD-H22]

And a guy in Sydney that does tunes..

[H22JET]

all the things that u want on your list i already have em on my car and its all nice and simple mods to mak your car look nice and make sure you dont RICE out your car

[YLD-H22]

Writ it off buddy :L selling parts if your interested? There's only damage to the front left panel and door and bumper is peeling!

[YLD-H22]

Writ it off buddy :L selling parts if your interested? There's only damage to the front left panel and door and bumper is peeling!