b20Vtec CR-V

[Alexplicit]

hey guys :)

basically, its come to the point where i need a daily, i do just drive my type R around and too and from sydney and everywhere.

i definately do not want to sell it, that car is basically a part of me lol.

so i was looking into buying a car, we can chuck stuff in the back of, take off road, road trips and comfortably put people in the back of, and maybe one day put a baby seat in.

soooo..... The CR-V was the first car that came into thought, one of my friends owns a stock one, and ive driven it around a bit, there a bit gutless < what to do??

perfect base B- series...why not B20VtaKKK :D ive read around a bit trolled around youtube and a few us sites but couldnt find a great deal of information on it, obviously its been done..

can anyone shed any light on this for me are there fitment issues with the different intake? is it straight forward? im currently beggining to read through the b20vtec builds to understand it a bit more, from what i know so far, the head has to be modified for a different dowl? correct? other than that the golden eagle vtec kit does the rest.

only bit i dont understand is the wiring. do i use the b16a - 18c7 wiring loom?

any information is very appreciated :)

Alex

[GSi_PSi]

Just a open up the allen key plug on the head which located near the dizzy, feed the vtec wire to the sandwich plate, the dowels you get in your vtec conversion kit will allow you to wack the head on. Done.
Wiring would be hard as im not too sure what the CRV uses for a wiring loom if you can maybe just install an OBD1 p28 or p72 chipped and just add a vtec wire.

[Bludger]

SUV?

on road performance - Subaru

Off road performance - Suzuki

Real 4WD - Cruiser/patrol

forget about Honda's

[Alexplicit]

sorry bludger, im sticking with a honda. i like the idea of having something different, plus i know a lot more about honda's then anything else, i was thinking about doing a g13b conversion on a suzuki 4wd but there ugly. lol.

plus i have a great group of people here who can walk me through most of what i want to do.

cheers

[Alexplicit]

also how strong are the gearbox's?

[Bludger]

break one and find out.

lol

[Touge Tom]

iv'e seen one at the good performance centre 'bout 3 year's ago, on chrome 19"s and lowered with an inch to spare between the tyre's and wheel arch's. it was rock'n the DUB spec appearance . didn't give it a test drive considering it was another customer's car. but i'd imagine it would be more fun to drive then a standard CRV?

[lilthug]

what u really need is low down torque to get the big car moving

[TheSaint]

i know you want to stick to honda but the CRV isnt the best platform to build from
perhaps look at the MDX instead?

http://www.privatefleet.com.au/images/upload/Image/new-cars/hondamdx.jpg

the best all round performer SUV is the subaru forester XT
most people dont know that it shares the same engine + driveline as a WRX
and with the same mods as a WRX will get similar performance
(the 06 STI forester was only 1sec slower than the 06 STI impreza when they were tested)

theres also ALOT of support for them on ozfoz and rexnet =)

http://drnick.com.au/pics/cars/xt/Foz300508-2.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/06-08_Subaru_Forester_2.5XT_Sports.jpg

[u mad?]

buy a hilux.

[Alexplicit]

Lol not grasping what I'm saying lol. I am not moving away from honda's I'm wanting something different, I don't want something to climb mt Everest in, nor do I want something doing 12 sec quarters, I want something different and a little unique.

Thanks for the suggestions though!!

[TheSaint]

the mdx is very similar to the accord - same engine
and its very luxurious inside for moving people and cargo
they are very nice to drive too =)

a B20 vtec CRV would be cool - the fact is tho that the CRV in general terms of an SuV ... isnt very good lol

but than again - if you were to perhaps improve on its weak points and push on its strong points you could build a semi-descent car
honda get alot of things right - the CRV is one that wasnt lol

[Alexplicit]

ill have a looksee, bit ugly though :/

[Alexplicit]

just had a look, there all quite expencive im not looking to spend that sort of money, the reason i wanted the crv mainly was because i have so many parts for b series i could work on it much easier...

[simmy]

you are still missing the point "THESAINT" it's what he wants

[TheSaint]

only trying to help - the crv was never a very good car
there are far better options available for the same price

[lilthug]

only trying to help - the crv was never a very good car
there are far better options available for the same price

same goes for modding your d15

others would think its stupid and for the same money you could have a b16 stock

and still come out ontop


if thats what he wants, then thats what he wants

edit: might b a poor example, but u get the jist of it

[TheSaint]

nope - its a poor example
D15b / D15b7 and EG chassis are both well engineered for their task

the CRV on the other hand isnt...

[tripleuse]

nope - its a poor example
D15b / D15b7 and EG chassis are both well engineered for their task

the CRV on the other hand isnt...

his example was spot on its all about personal opinion, but yes the d series were engineered well for being reliable,economic engine at the time. not for being modified. thats why they brought out b16as.

[TheSaint]

im just pointing out the fact that the CRV wasnt a very good car
take the advice or leave it
im not getting into a debate involving D-series engines
its completely off topic

[Glocker]

get rid of non-vtec b20 and get some k24a happening

[EKVTIR-T]

I know 2 coworkers who've had the older b20 crv and never had issues.
They were never sold as serious offroaders or performance 4x4s so they do their intended purpose fine.
You can think of them as a Rav4 equivalent..

Also the OP clearly stated he wants the crv not an MDX which is very much worlds apart

[TheSaint]

just trying to help and u guys blow it way out of proportion
take your attitude/vendettas to another website

[tripleuse]

attitudes? lil thug said a perfect example of opinions, youre stubbornness towards d15s killed it. anyways stop the bullshit. i would like to see a crv b20vtec go for it :) make a cheap slapper job, if u like it build one properly,..always had a soft spot for b20s :)

[DLO01]

Ok, lets cool it guys. Move on. Keep the personal stuff out. Write your opinions down, help out the OP and leave it at that, its not hard. Thanks.

[GSi_PSi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYc5vha6WiQ

[TheSaint]

that would be one hell of a sleeper lol

[manonastick]

Why not get a accord euro for daily?
k24 fun : D

[Alexplicit]

just want something i can go places in take slightly off-road, (sand, dirt, beach ) ect... something i can throw my car parts in the back of and drive to and from sydney ect..

i would LOVE an accord but i cant throw things in the back of it :(

and i can put a lil matress in the back of a crv :)

[ryaan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYc5vha6WiQ

that crv is sick ! :D

[marquee]

just want something i can go places in take slightly off-road, (sand, dirt, beach ) ect... something i can throw my car parts in the back of and drive to and from sydney ect..

i would LOVE an accord but i cant throw things in the back of it :(

and i can put a lil matress in the back of a crv :)

The euro is pretty good semi offroad as in on unpaved roads wouldnt take it on sand though. Boot space is more then suffice with the rear seats down got 6 snowboards in the back of mine. Its fine on semi snowy roads is quite high. I doubt you can fold the seats down in a crv to fit a mattress properly.

And is pretty quick for a stock car. Bit if your set on a crv go for it

[Alexplicit]

this is starting to come along just purchased a b20vtec now just to find the shell :)

[IV73CI]

if you want a good all rounder - On road daily, performance, off road mountain/river terrain, and massive towing bhp then buy yourself a forester XT or STi.

Ive got a MY04 Xti ...pretty much XT but on STi running gears.

with simple bolt ons like - STi VF turbos, full zorst, bigger TMIC, and airbox your already within the 180awkw @ 7psi of boost.

tune the fhukker with a reflashed ecu, then your up to 235awkw + 15psi of boost with 800+nm of toque.!! (like my beast does). with early boost @ 3000rpm all the way to redline 7500 without any lose of power!

at the same time, you got the power for all type of terrains/conditions...

to top it off, insurance is cheap as they are classified as a AWD family wagon and you dont get hassled by the friendlys :).

cmon my plates displays IB00ST in bright purple ...and no hassles from the friendlys :)

family sleeper car with enough power to suprise GTR's, supras and hotted up V8 on the blowers!

just so much torque!

selling mine if your interested :P

[TheSaint]

04-06 Forester XT
- Process West TMIC
- VF34 STI Turbo
- Silicon tube intake + pod
- desent exhaust
- boost controller + gauge

u should get 180-200kw and have a range of boost up to 20psi

such a fun little SUV =D

[97EK1]

Mate i reckon you should build it, but ill be frank with you don't have any misconceptions about the fact its 4wd, its the kind of 4wd that drives kids to soccer practice, not the kind that does any offroading.
I wanted a Honda 4wd too so i bought a Patrol... If you want to sick with a Honda and one that can go offroad go buy yourself a Honda Crossroad, otherwise known in Australia as a Land Rover Discovery 1
and buy some badges.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CjzjkTNhxok/TpOP5WuUpVI/AAAAAAAABX0/Z_CQm0guHwY/s1600/Honda+crossroad.jpg
Job complete... and you get a V8 :P

[TheSaint]

lol they wernt a very good car either =/

[IV73CI]

04-06 Forester XT
- Process West TMIC
- VF34 STI Turbo
- Silicon tube intake + pod
- desent exhaust
- boost controller + gauge

u should get 180-200kw and have a range of boost up to 20psi

such a fun little SUV =D

nice bro ..

my setup is:

VF43 (06 Sti) @ 15-17psi
Process West TMIC
Fatboyz intake plenum tube
ARC Cold Air Box
Sti Ver6 full rebuilt gbox
Pulse Racing ECU reflash+tune
700cc RC injectors (OEM 540cc max out @ 99% DC)
STi intake plenum/body
HKS SSQ-II bov

235awkw with 756nm torque as early as 2900rpm

with no lose of boost in the rev range ...

XTi FTW!!

[TheSaint]

what model is the XTi - never heard of it??
was it in the 03-05 shape or the 05-07 shape?

the VF34 is from the 06 Impreza WRX STI Spec C Type-RA (lol long name)
the VF28 isnt bad either - from one of the GC8 STI's - more suited to rally work tho

how does urs go off road?
and how do u compare it to a WRX?

[IV73CI]

Vf34 is from the 04-06 early sti.
Vf43 is from the late 06-08 sti :)
Vf28 is the larger turbo from the gc8 sti 22b 2dr.
Then u got the ultimate twin scroll option from the gc8 22b RA sti 2dr.

The XTi is what ppl call it the chassis is xt with sti running gear :)

Mine is just the 03-05 xt series 1 then u get the facelift model late 05-07 series 2.

Both series also came out in the import jdm sti. Only a few are in aust.

Havent taken mine off roading but in todays sydney flooded roads would be have been great!!

Compared to wrx, well wrx are lighter (150kg) and expensive with insurance.

Xt are heavier but cheaper with jnsurance, dont get hassled by the friendlys and looks more beasty and rigid :)

Xt uses the same running gear as the sti (xt lacks the dccd and the bigger intake plenum, sti tune and turbo comparisons, brembos - i have the 4pots frm the 05 wrx fitted) but the block is the same and so as the cam profiles. This is for the 03-07 xt vs 05-07 sti.

Ive had fun runs both from the dig and rolling with evos 5-9 and sti's... I won most races, just depends in what mods and tune they have and the driver.Bearing in mind that the xt was heavier :)

Fun to drive but i would recommend to upgrade the sussy, fsb/rsb for better handling..

Thats my xt experience :)

[TheSaint]

ah yeah - pretty much knew all that already

my mate has a 02 GT Forester that has been converted to a JDM Legacy twinscroll setup - it goes pretty hard =)

i just sold my 98 Liberty Rx wagon - im starting to miss the subaru lol

ill be selling my civic and building an XTi at the start of next year
getting an 05-07 XT in black or white
- process west TMIC
- AVO silicon intake with Fujita Pod
- VF34 turbo setup with braided lines
- stainless turbo back exhaust setup by busselton subaru rally team
- Link G4 with anti-lag and launch control setup by busselton subaru rally team
- coilovers (no idea which ones yet - i wanna keep a bit of height)
- everything ultra racing and whiteline make to replace worn running gear
- STI GroupeN engine and gearbox mounts
- 05 WRX 17" wheels - the gunmetal/bronze ones
- bridgestone Re002 rubber
- Project Mu brake rotors + pads with braided brake lines
- roof racks
- nudge bar with JDM yellow style foggies

the only major problem i see is the gearbox - the forester have the crappy towing style ratios and 60/40 split
but the WRX has really nice ratios and 50/50 split - or have they solved this for the newer XT?

[IV73CI]

nice..that would be a nice setup.

i believe its the same for the 09-10 XT (current shape). 60/40 ratio.

i dont like the shape/power of the current XT, still prefer the old skool type! :)

yes - the gearbox will be your major concern, hence why i upgraded to the VER6 STi box. :)

buy my fozzy if your interested :P

[TheSaint]

lolol i really want the 05/06 facelift model

how much/how hard was it to change to the STI box?

did it make a huge difference?

i might actually move all this info to a new thread soon lol

[Bludger]

would you guys go make your own d15b thread.

he already said he bought a b20.

edit - ^^^^ good idea mrd15b

[dc2r-0636]

Stop spamming saint this isn't the spam thread, you will get infracted.

Op, hows the b20 goin? All going smoothly ?

[Bludger]

Stop spamming saint this isn't the spam thread, you will get infracted.

Op, hows the b20 goin? All going smoothly ?
careful, I got an infraction for post #43

the reason was -
Personal attack on another user

D15b mod abuse



Alex, how is the CR-V shell hunt going?

[Banana_hammock]

What's wrong with the k24a in the crv? sure it's not grunty, there are many more affordable mods which can be done to boost it's power. Intake, cams, injectors, tune. The list goes on

[dc2r-0636]

^^ op is talking bout the older CRVs that came with b20 non vtec

[Alexplicit]

well ive got the b20 still trying to find a shell or a blown up crv... taking its time :( i would like a sports version but beggars cant be chosers :(

[Banana_hammock]

Oh i see. How silly of me. going down the head-swap road?

[Alexplicit]

already got the engine bannana-hammock :)

[Alexplicit]

tbh, im starting think i need to sell it i have enough projects on the side and the integra needs to be painted and heaps of other little things :(
and its proving itself difficult to find a decent prject base to work with...

see how we go i guess :P

[Bludger]

lmzooo @ above

[Alexplicit]

why??

[unl3a5h]

Subaru Forrester thread?

[Alexplicit]

for shizz :P