Moderators abusing powers, spam thread rights and wrongs

[GSi_PSi]

What's the go with moderators infracting and deleting people's
Genuine posts ?. How can one have there post deleted unfairly because the
Mod thought it was spam ? Is ozhonda becoming a bit nazi..
Not pointing the finger at anyone but it's mainly one mod in particular who sees everything as an personal attack. It was started in the d series thread when they had posted some curious information that people genuinely disagreed upon then the mod took it personally and just started infracting and deleting all posts which was against them ?..

Recent saga has caused this wave of nonsense but just honestly if the mod was a bit more mature and allowed healthy discussion I'm sure none of all this hostility would of happend, by all means delete the spam in the posts but don't go deleting complete posts and editing + adding your own personal message to the user ? This is first time ive seen such abuse of powers.
Curious about the spam thread what is allowed and what isn't allowed in there ?.

[Vvvtec]

Inb4shithitsthefan

But yes, Sam raises a good point here.

(I know I probably dont deserve one) but a clear, concise statement from the people involved would be nice.

This shitstorm is getting out of hand.

Not enjoying this one bit.

[EKVTIR-T]

Yes its out of control if its come to being infracted/banned for even mentioning someones name.
This has clearly turned into a witch hunt and abuse of power

Also guys please refer to Wyns post here for more chance of success


Hi all,

Just to clarify I thought I would make this brief checklist of what to do if/when you are not happy with a moderator's decission / actions.

Follow this in order else your request WILL be ignored.

If you have a problem with a moderator's actions:


Contact the moderator who you have an issue with directly first.
If you do not come to an acceptable resolution then message one of the other moderators to take a look at the problem. Let the original moderator know this too.
If you are not happy with the outcome of #1 and #2 above then make a thread in the Site Discussion forum or send either myself or bennjamin a Private Message.

Note that threads made in the site discussion forum which do not follow the steps above will be closed. Remember to be curtious in your messages as nobody likes being attacked and / or approached aggressively.

Treat the moderators with some respect and expect to be treated with respect in return.

I will keep this thread open for a bit to get some feedback. Spam it and I will close it ASAP.

[TbM]

I completely agree that this has gone out of control.

[simmy]

it's gone out of hand i'm sure bludger and na-118 can have a say, with their infractions to personal attacks, and other reasons like "don't start "

[simmy]

can never contact the moderator his inbox is always full!

[dougie_504]

Everybody knows that your 'not pointing the finger' comment is directly aimed at one particular person mate, it's no secret. However before we go using terms like 'power abuse' there needs to be a few clarifications.

If certain people had followed the steps clearly outlined by Wyn and quoted by EKVTIR-T above then there might not have been so much escalation, and certainly no need for people to be banned or begin making claims of intent to inflict real physical harm to others and various other things (both of which are extraordinary and disgraceful and may result in police involvement if care is not taken!). When it reaches that level you know it's gone too far, and no amount of written words should ever generate such a reaction in a group of genuinely decent people.
However I am on good terms with several people who recently received infractions yet not a single one of them thought to discuss any of these issues with me (nor any other moderator to my knowledge), therefore I believe these issues have been very mishandled and not just by one person in particular.

Secondly please remember that OH moderators don't administrate the forums for any reason other than to keep it clean, respectable and informative! We don't get paid and there are no notable perks! We do this strictly for the enjoyment of members! And if we don't moderate the forums enough then we usually get picked on for being absent!


Everybody please keep their OH input relevant to the original topic, useful, accurate, and respectful of one another. There is a clear distinction between 'healthy discussion' and utter crap/banter. Hopefully everybody can come to a respectable middle-ground and be considerate (and mature/non-threatening?) of one another's opinions and feelings, and ultimately just enjoy their stay.


If you have any further questions or comments please feel free to PM me. This is not an invitation to argue points, however I am happy to discuss any issues you want to clarify etc.


Regards,
Andy.

[wynode]

I think Andy has summed it up quite well.

Please do follow the steps quoted above. I would also like to highlight that there have been certain (long time) members being quite arrogant, especially towards new members. This will not be tolerated and moderators will issue infractions until the point gets through.

If you believe there is an 'abuse of power' then please follow the steps in post #3 above.

[mocchi]

Moderators have been PMed.

Thank you for such quick response and for being open.

[dougie_504]

PM replied mocchi. Eagerly await your response. We'll discuss in PM from now :)

[mocchi]

never received a reply from mod in question. TheSaint.
patiently waiting.

[wynode]

Moderators have been PMed.

Thank you for such quick response and for being open.
Replied, actioned some infractions and following up on others.

If anyone feels they have received unfair infractions then let me know. If you contact me just for the sake of it then don't expect a reply :)

[Snoop_gee]

I got 1 from Dougie_504 after stating that the information he posts is misleading.
As he made this post

I have seen 200kw N/A from a DC5R. I believe it was the hot pink track car owned by 'Miss R' or whatever. Saw it at Autosalon 2010.

Does this look pink to you
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/11%20Charles/Apr/random%20snap/missr.jpg

[EKVTIR-T]

Thats nothing to do with the topic ...more a bit of confusion about someones car

Go find a hobby

[dc2r-0636]

I had an issue several months back (not with a mod) and I PM'd andy and he was quite helpful.

[dougie_504]

I got 1 from Dougie_504 after stating that the information he posts is misleading.
As he made this post


Does this look pink to you
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/11%20Charles/Apr/random%20snap/missr.jpg

You didn't say my post was misleading nor did you help to correct me, just trying to put me down in public as usual. It was August of 2010 and I'm colorblind anyway mate.

At least I was tryin to help the OP. You deserved the infraction!

[Vvvtec]

You didn't say my post was misleading nor did you help to correct me, just trying to put me down in public as usual. It was August of 2010 and I'm colorblind anyway mate.

At least I was tryin to help the OP. You deserved the infraction!

:thumbsup:

[jeremydawg]

You didn't say my post was misleading nor did you help to correct me, just trying to put me down in public as usual. It was August of 2010 and I'm colorblind anyway mate.

At least I was tryin to help the OP. You deserved the infraction!

nuff said

"misleading post" lol, absolute bull crap

[tripleuse]

I got 1 from Dougie_504 after stating that the information he posts is misleading.
As he made this post


Does this look pink to you
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/11%20Charles/Apr/random%20snap/missr.jpg

thats ****ing funny, but it was just a mistake leave the mod alone.

[Indie]

On any other forum, I would expect warnings and temporary bans to be issued for calling somebody a "faggot", but apparently that kind of thing is acceptable in this community.

[WATAJK]

On any other forum, I would expect warnings and temporary bans to be issued for calling somebody a "faggot", but apparently that kind of thing is acceptable in this community.

Yeah.
Mods don't abuse there powers here i've noticed IMO, users try and abuse there own powers pushing there limits and then when they receive "infractions, bans etc" they cry and whinge.
To be honest, if you receive a "infraction/ban" accept it and move on, stop bloody sooking about as you've obviously deserved it.

[mocchi]

Yeah.
Mods don't abuse there powers here i've noticed IMO, users try and abuse there own powers pushing there limits and then when they receive "infractions, bans etc" they cry and whinge.
To be honest, if you receive a "infraction/ban" accept it and move on, stop bloody sooking about as you've obviously deserved it.

ppl got infracted for saying jdm d15b. that's it nothing else. or jdm d15b you don't understand.

in spam.

WATAJK right?

[dougie_504]

ppl got infracted for saying jdm d15b. that's it nothing else. or jdm d15b you don't understand.

in spam.

WATAJK right?

Which can have a totally different meaning when taken into context as discussed in PM! Given that you took quite a bit of personal interpretation into one of our other members posts (also as discussed in PM) I'm sure you can appreciate how easy it would be to determine the intent of all these 'harmless' d15b posts.

[WATAJK]

ppl got infracted for saying jdm d15b. that's it nothing else. or jdm d15b you don't understand.

in spam.

WATAJK right?

One example why i don't like you you immature child.
..OzHonda Spam Crew..
..We Welcome You Abourd!..

WTF?

Grow the hell up.
How about times when you spammed my build thread?
What about when bludger posted photos he didn't have permission to post?
I've got records of what Oxer has posted (yes i know which username Oxer uses), yes, i printed screen for my own record but i don't have any intentions to use em as i understand it was a misunderstanding.
Everyone makes mistakes and that was a mistake plus there ain't a point holding a grudge on somebody as it solves nothing, forgive and forget.

[mocchi]

One example why i don't like you you immature child.
..OzHonda Spam Crew..
..We Welcome You Abourd!..

WTF?

Grow the hell up.
How about times when you spammed my build thread?
What about when bludger posted photos he didn't have permission to post?
I've got records of what Oxer has posted (yes i know which username Oxer uses), yes, i printed screen for my own record but don't have any intentions to use em as i understand it was a misunderstanding.

you dont like me? ok man thats too bad. sorry if i spam your thread and youre hurt because of it.
need you back in vent thread btw.

[u mad?]

One example why i don't like you you immature child.
..OzHonda Spam Crew..
..We Welcome You Abourd!..

WTF?

Grow the hell up.
How about times when you spammed my build thread?
What about when bludger posted photos he didn't have permission to post?
I've got records of what Oxer has posted (yes i know which username Oxer uses), yes, i printed screen for my own record but i don't have any intentions to use em as i understand it was a misunderstanding.
Everyone makes mistakes and that was a mistake plus there ain't a point holding a grudge on somebody as it solves nothing, forgive and forget.
lmaoaoaoa what you on about man. dnt-cry

[DLO01]

On any other forum, I would expect warnings and temporary bans to be issued for calling somebody a "faggot", but apparently that kind of thing is acceptable in this community.

Indie. Please don't come on this thread and bash, I responded to your PM. As said it is defiantly not acceptable here or anywhere. And as I told you in response to your PM it is not acceptable on this forum. Mods cannot be everywhere all the time. If seen it will be addressed, I promise you that. Did you report the post? Please assist mods/forum/other members and if you see anything that is out of order/unacceptable, hit the report button.

[WATAJK]

you dont like me? ok man thats too bad. sorry if i spam your thread and youre hurt because of it.
need you back in vent thread btw.

Don't need to go to the vent thread as there's nothing to vent about.
Only vent when its needed.


lmaoaoaoa what you on about man. dnt-cry
Im not crying, i said it was a misunderstanding or was i wrong?

[jeremydawg]

Indie, WATAJK,

wrong thread. read title.

Issue at hand has been dealt with. mods should maybe close this thread to prevent more idiots posting useless garbage.

just sayin

[DLO01]

Agreed. Closed. Jeremy, will PM you soon.......