b18c7 Type R check .

[joeyybruh]

I recently got the BYP b18c7 package and had them install the engine into my EG5 civic .

I just wanted to know ways of diagnosing that nothing is dodgy . I created a list of things to check and was planning on going to hanny's to get a complete check that everything is working .

List consists of :
Checking B series driveshafts ,
masking sure its a legit LSD 4.7 Gearbox ,
that the ecu is legit .

could i get opinions on what i should get checked ?

Dont get my wrong , BYP guys did a great job but i need everything confirmed that its all type R for the piece of mind . Im an honest person so if i did sell it , i want it completely legitimate .

[jdm18c]

If byp had a bad rep for selling dodgy shit then chances are it would be but in this case byp have a very good rep I'd say and if they say you got it then there's a very good chance you do. I'd just ask the boys down there and see, they aint about makin a quick buck. They provide a good service

[crobaa]

I would have thought that no other driveshafts will fit the box other than b series? The box should have LSD written on it (clearly visible from above). Also I'm pretty sure the motor won't run properly/at all if the wrong ecu is installed

[bennjamin]

Dude just go to hannys and ask Robert.

If I was BYP , regardless I'd be offended and probably pull any support or warranty for making such accusations.

[vtecing]

i think he has a right to know what he bought is legit. I would just ask BYP, if they are an honest company they will tell you how to identify type r components, then check what they say with your own research.

The box should have LSD printed on it (sometimes its very faded though), drives shafts have to b b-series to match the motor/box. You can also tell by driving the car because of the FD, i think it should sit on about 3k in 4th at 70km? Get someone who knows dc2r's to drive the car, they will be able to tell you. Also the dc2r head had a green paint mark on the back of it, when Honda were building the dc2r they marked the most perfect b16 heads with a green mark then sent them to be hand polished etc.. The block should also say B18C7 if it is an AUS spec.

Not sure about ECU, as far as I know they dont have any markings, but as crobaa said, I dont think the motor would run well if it didnt match.

[joeyybruh]

Dude just go to hannys and ask Robert.

If I was BYP , regardless I'd be offended and probably pull any support or warranty for making such accusations.

I never intended or intend to create any accusations . I was only concerned about the honesty of their engine package as i did pay a reasonable
amount and thought it was wise to confirm that i got what i paid for and nothing dishonest.
Im still learning about engines and wanted to thought it was wise to create a list in which i could learn how to make sure everything is legit .

Im sorry if i did offend them but in all honesty , After the conversion I was pm'd by a few members about the reputation of BYP but this was all BEFORE they were a trader . the past is the past , chances are they've excelled heaps and are legitimate but thought it was smart to check .
I wont go into detail because i have no intentions of saying anything negative . Their good guys :)

but thanks for the replies guys :D

[blabla]

Hey mate I have dealings with them its all legitimate.

[crobaa]

On 4:7 fd I sit at 3500rpm in 5th at 100km/hr. stock itr tyre size.

[dorikin]

Driveshafts can only be B-series as stated.

Gearbox has "S80" on sticker and "LSD N3E" stamped on it

ECU if original B18C7 ECU should have P73 on the sticker with a conversion harness. But they may have used something like a chipped P06/P28 ECU so it plugs straight in.

[VTec1987]

champ .... maybe u should check everything and ask people question before buying.
U look like a complete idiot buying it then asking people if its legit

You can check if the head is stamp pr3
in terms of ur ecu , although its plug and play... u gotta make sure the ecu has b18c type r mapping.

[joeyybruh]

Driveshafts can only be B-series as stated.

Gearbox has "S80" on sticker and "LSD N3E" stamped on it

ECU if original B18C7 ECU should have P73 on the sticker with a conversion harness. But they may have used something like a chipped P06/P28 ECU so it plugs straight in.

appreciate the help buddy :D .


Hey mate I have dealings with them its all legitimate.

thanks for the clarification :D !


champ .... maybe u should check everything and ask people question before buying.
U look like a complete idiot buying it then asking people if its legit

You can check if the head is stamp pr3
in terms of ur ecu , although its plug and play... u gotta make sure the ecu has b18c type r mapping.

thanks for the responses guys . really appreciate it . Yes , i did check it and i was and am happy with it . Only reason why i thought it was necessary to check was because it was only after the conversion was done was when i read and heard speculations about the honesty of their trade .

Yes i admit i look like an idiot but id rather look like an idiot than boast about a b18c7 that could potentially have fraud characteristics .
If you heard rumours , then i guess it would come across your mind to confirm everything . after all , you are spending money it it . thats just my opinion , thank you for yours .

I didnt mean to dishonour the BYP guys , a few if not a lot of peope have had bad experiences from them and just wanted to clarify for everyone
that they are legitimate and overall great guys .

[bennjamin]

Hey mate I have dealings with them its all legitimate.

Do they have a ABN , registered as a mechanical workshop ?
Do they offer proper receipted warranty on parts and workmanship etc ? Hope the OP asked , as everyone should with all businesses !

[blabla]

Do they have a ABN , registered as a mechanical workshop ?
Do they offer proper receipted warranty on parts and workmanship etc ? Hope the OP asked , as everyone should with all businesses !

Everyone has to start somewhere. They just got a partnership with hrc as far as I am aware, I got a recipt from them when my conversion was done, they also provided me with a discounted dyno tune as part of the package.

[joeyybruh]

Everyone has to start somewhere. They just got a partnership with hrc as far as I am aware, I got a recipt from them when my conversion was done, they also provided me with a discounted dyno tune as part of the package.

Im still waiting for my receipt and my conversion was completed last wednesday ! .. should hopefully get it soon as i need to register the engine to the car :( .. technically driving illegally .

as far as warranty is concerned , no i dont recall receiving warranty on any parts . I paid pretty much everything they asked for and this also contributed to why im so eager on making sure everything is legitimate .

[bennjamin]

Im still waiting for my receipt and my conversion was completed last wednesday ! .. should hopefully get it soon as i need to register the engine to the car :( .. technically driving illegally .

as far as warranty is concerned , no i dont recall receiving warranty on any parts . I paid pretty much everything they asked for and this also contributed to why im so eager on making sure everything is legitimate .

the issue is you need proof of ownership of the engine - this is then taken (with your car) to your local engineer and he will then check it over , make sure it falls within the <15% displacement AND same emissions rules or later as chassis- then do a "adjustment of records" and simply line up the new engine number with the RTA. Easy.

[blabla]

Im still waiting for my receipt and my conversion was completed last wednesday ! .. should hopefully get it soon as i need to register the engine to the car :( .. technically driving illegally .

as far as warranty is concerned , no i dont recall receiving warranty on any parts . I paid pretty much everything they asked for and this also contributed to why im so eager on making sure everything is legitimate .

Why don't you speak to them before you start posting concerns, take it to hrc performance in wetheril park.

No problems with my conversion apart from delay of my ecu and tune.

They have worked on my and brothers car no issues at all. 2x Clutch done by them, coilovers purchased brand new with warranty and radiator purchased from them no problems. I drove my car for 3 years before I was bothered updating the engine number with rms
(Rta).

Look at the op they are sponsoring.

[Mr.Brightside]

If your concerned post a picture of your engine number and gearbox tag along with a whole engine bay pic so members of the forum can verify.

[GSi_PSi]

dude its not hard to do a quick search as its been done to death about how to confirm a true B18CR engine.

[Benson]

Joey,

Im a little sadden and offended that you would think i've would of sold you a 'dodgy' B18cR engine package. Our business stand highly with customer service and customer relationship. If there is anything wrong with the swap or engine package, please give me a call. If you have spoken to people who have actually dealt with BYP (there is a few in this thread and have said so) you will be happy to know that you could trust in our word and workmanship. This is one of the reason why i've created a vouch thread under the trader section - http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?157566-BYP-Racing-and-Developments-Vouch-Thread/page2
Im always hearing that we are dodgy and dont know what we are doing. These are the people who haven't dealt with us directly, people who have heard rumours, and people who are outright jealous! I havent built a name and reputation base on luck. I've been in the industry for many years and i can gladly say im more experience and knowledgable than other 'experience' Honda specialist.

You can only look back of our achievements, our knowledge, our results, our vouches, our company to know that we ARENT in the industry to rip people off or be dodgy. A smart person will see that we have grown from year to year. Become stronger from year to year. More knowledgable with Honda's from year to year.

People are right. Everyone starts from somewhere. 90% of 'good' mechanics work from their backyard starting out. Its hard when your so young to acutally afford a workshop. We are really fortunate that we have a good team supporting us and had a great opportunity put forward with HRC Automotive who has been in the business for the last 17years.

Like the few intellect people have pointed out. Your engine code on the block will read B18C7 (This number indicates its a AUS spec Integra Type R block). Above the header, there is a stamp on the head to indicate the year model and type R head. Your intake manifold will also be Type R (google type R manifold and compare). For the gearbox, there is a stamp (slightly faded) with the writing S80 LSD. This would indicate an Type R gearbox (4.7 FD) with LSD. Now if your really paraniod its not a type R gearbox, you can pay someone to pull off the driveshafts and check if you can see the other side (This will show you if it has LSD or not). The FD would be tricky, it will require a gearbox removal and for it to be opened up. For the ECU, its clearly a Hondata s200 with the blue box (tuned previously to the engine + mods). Its pretty obvious. As for driveshafts, only B-series driveshafts will fit b-series gearbox

With regards to your receipt. I havent forgotten. Its hard when you cant control getting the receipt from the previous owner when he is so busy to fit in the schedule. If it was my engine, i would have no hesitation to give you the receipt already! Please PM your email so i can get the details across to you

[joeyybruh]

thank you guys for all the feedback and comments . I am comfortable and more than confident that what i bought is what i got :D .
Yes i look stupid , yes i feel like a fool but I've learnt heaps from today and gained a valuable lesson .

sorry for offending any people during the duration of this thread , especially benson and the BYP crew .

As for anyone doubting the BYP guys , with myself being one . They are awesome guys , extremely friendly and have a world of knowledge i dont think anyone can teach .

thanks again guys -

[Bludger]

Everyone has to start somewhere. They just got a partnership with hrc as far as I am aware, I got a recipt from them when my conversion was done, they also provided me with a discounted dyno tune as part of the package.
lmzoooo

discount dyno tune as part of a package.






sure is a lot of **** sucking in this thread.

[TheSaint]

imo this is poor form on behalf of the OP - if u have concerns contact the company - dont go posting it all over a public forum

especially when the company is well renowned for quality work - just makes u look stupid

u should have done the research and checked everything out BEFORE you put down your money

i dont know where people get off on saying BYP is dodgey - im waaay over in WA and their rep is good over here too lol