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ThePacman
01-01-2012, 10:20 AM
Ok, first up, this is not my build.
It belongs to a mate of mine, who would be a member, but only has a hotmail account.

Here are the specs on his motor.....

Engine consists of:
F22A1 Block
Custom Aluminium 5.5Qty Sump
Crankshaft Re-Grind
Eagle Rods
CP Pistons 85.5mm
Block Guard
2mm Copper Head Gasket
H22A4 Head
Port and Polish
Ferrea 6000 Series Valve Seats
Ferrea Valve Locks
Ferrea Valve Stem Seals
Ferrea Stainless 6000 Series Valves
Ferrea 6000 Series Beehive Valve Springs
Ferrea 6000 Series Beehive Titanium Retainers
Ferrea Roller Rockers
Ferrea Roller Camshafts
All New Bearings Through Out
Billet Cam Seal
Unorthodox Light Weight Crank Pulley
OBX Lightweight Pulley Kit
OBX High Volume Fuel Rail
Thermal Intake Manifold Gasket
Skunk2 Pro Intake Manifold
Skunk2 Pro 70mm Throttle Body
Skunk2 Pro Titanium Cam Gears
Tial 46mm Wastegate
T04E Turbo
Vision 10.3mm Spark Plug Leads
NGK Platinium Spark Plugs
Jun Spark Plug Cover
Vision External Coil
Walbro 255Lb Fuel Pump
Fuel Regulator
JDM High Volume Fuel Filter
GReddy Oil Filter
NRG Engine Damper
STR Dipstick
Hasport Engine Mounts with 70A Bushings
HKS SSQV BOV
OBX 1.5 LSD
Extreme Carbon Cushion Button Clutch
Fidanza 8Lb Flywheel

I spent a good part of last Thurs/Friday at his place shoehorning this monster into his EG4.
We have the motor in fine now, but we are still having clearance issues with the power steering pump, on the chassis above the passenger headlight. the turbo compressor doesn't clear the radiator like we hoped. and there is NO chance we will fit the AC in now....
Here are some pics.

http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt272/007Pacman/Dane1.jpghttp://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt272/007Pacman/Dane2.jpg

Here you can see why we're having trouble with the P/S pump.
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt272/007Pacman/Dane3.jpg

And a few shots with the turbo in place....
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt272/007Pacman/Dane6.jpghttp://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt272/007Pacman/Dane5.jpg
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt272/007Pacman/Dane8.jpghttp://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt272/007Pacman/Dane4.jpg

I'm sure most of you agree this is an exciting looking ride.

If anyone has any advice about radiators P/S pump clearances etc. let me know....

Sexc86
01-01-2012, 10:33 AM
Looks promising mate. You can deffinately forget aircon, dont worry its more hassel then what its worth. Not sure about the PS problem but i have herd its a common issue with H conversions in EG's - i think you have to do some notching in the front radiator support. In regards to your radiator... did they size up everything with the manifold and turbo without the radiator & engine in the car ? Its a very really nice manifold but it now it looks like they will have problems running a half size radiator ?

You could mount the radiator at a slight angle to the radiator support offset to the drivers side of the car (have seen this done in the past) but then you really limit the airflow that can get to it, which will be very import when you have a intercooler infront of there and a massive exhaust manifold producing alot of heat.

Personally i would re-design your manifold so that you have more radiator clearance and your turbo sits closer to your passenger side. You could have a custom made radiator fabricated to suit your needs but personally i would grab a Mishimoto triplecore half size radiator, bolt on installation for the EG civic.... and resonable cheap from the usa. Aprox $300

Good luck champ!

ThePacman
01-01-2012, 11:45 AM
Yeah, he has a larger aliuminium rad, the compressor hits it, and the waste gate flange looks like it may turn out to be a problem too....

He's considering getting a custom rad made which will fill the entire gap beheind the intercooler.... He takes his heating issues seriously, so whichever way he goes, I thinkk it will be a functional decision...

Sexc86
01-01-2012, 12:08 PM
Awsome nice projects mate, keep motivated and post up some more pics when the time comes

GSi_PSi
01-01-2012, 02:47 PM
like the build mate!.. hope you get the p/s issues fixed, have you looked at electric ps setup from an mr2 ?

ThePacman
01-01-2012, 03:34 PM
like the build mate!.. hope you get the p/s issues fixed, have you looked at electric ps setup from an mr2 ?

MR2 electric P/S pump eh..... Food for thought.....
Have been talking about mounting the P/S pump down where the A/C was...! Hmmmmm...

BoostnDC2
01-01-2012, 06:30 PM
what are the benefits of using the f22a block? why not use the h22a block?

ThePacman
01-01-2012, 06:55 PM
what are the benefits of using the f22a block? why not use the h22a block?

The H22 block is a cast aloy block, as is the F22. but the F22 has steel sleves from the factory.

Basically the F22 block is heaps more boost friendly.....

JPR28610
02-01-2012, 12:04 PM
omg, niiooocceeee

hayashi_1986
02-01-2012, 10:32 PM
PS pump will fit, but your passenger side headlight might not. Depending on your mounts, you may have to section out a piece of your housing to fit it back in. Clearance is tight but it's totally possible. I'm using Avid Racing mounts if that helps bro. No need to notch the radiator support, but again this might be because of the type of mounts I'm using. May not apply to you though.

If you decide to use the relocation bracket for the PS, then the above is moot and none of it will matter. Clearance won't be an issue at all.

Full sized or half sized radiators will both work no problem, but slim fans are a must else it'll hit the turbo housing. Also agree with no AC...I kept mine and had to lengthen a section of my condenser hose and it was STILL a pain in the arse to fit...real TIGHT fit.

Nice build man, will follow this one.

Edit: My bad, missed the part with the full sized rad issue. Looks like 1/2 size is the go.

hayashi_1986
02-01-2012, 10:36 PM
Oh and hit the guys up at honda-tech. Those guys have been toying around with H22/F22 turbos for ages. Wealth of knowledge.

ThePacman
04-01-2012, 11:46 AM
The half size still has clearance issues....!

hayashi_1986
04-01-2012, 04:45 PM
What is it hitting?

ThePacman
05-01-2012, 07:05 PM
The compressor hits the rad, and the waste gate will be rather close to it also...

hayashi_1986
12-01-2012, 04:16 PM
You can move the rad forward with no issues. Just break out the cutting wheel, mark out the waste metal for removal and have fun! It's semi structural to the frame of the car so no biggie unkess you want to register it for road use?

stndrd
12-01-2012, 05:06 PM
Have a chat to Derek at All in Fabrication (https://www.facebook.com/AllInFab). He is based in the USA and makes radiator/intercooler tuck kits for turbo B & K series, so I don't see why he wouldn't be able to knock one up to suit a F/H frank

ThePacman
14-01-2012, 10:05 PM
You can move the rad forward with no issues. Just break out the cutting wheel, mark out the waste metal for removal and have fun! It's semi structural to the frame of the car so no biggie unkess you want to register it for road use?

Yes, It'll be roaqd reged....

ThePacman
15-07-2012, 05:26 PM
A lot of changes been made to this so far. But it's still coming along...

http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt272/007Pacman/D_w1.jpg
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt272/007Pacman/D_w2.jpg
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt272/007Pacman/D_w3.jpg
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt272/007Pacman/D_w4.jpg
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt272/007Pacman/D_w5.jpg
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt272/007Pacman/D_w6.jpg
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt272/007Pacman/D_w7.jpg

I'll start a thread for this in the forced induction section also....