[CU2][CL9] Euro Tyre Discussion

[I CU2]

One of my OEM Michelin's is leaking air from somewhere so I am looking to get the whole set replaced as it looks like they're about to go as well.

Happy to pay for a new set of Michi's but are there any other tyres to consider?

Considered: Pirelli PZero Nero (Apparantly has a soft compound) and Kuhmo's range topping performance KU39 (Quite a bit cheaper than the Michi's).

Anyone running any other tyres that are worth mentioning?

[ergot]

Toyo proxes 4 ftw!

[jay2]

The last time I did a search, Bridgestone Potenza RE050A or Turanza ER33. Honda uses the potenzas on the civic TypeR!

Not too sure about the price though.

Someone else did mention that our CU2 18s have limited choices due to the uncommon rim sizing. From what I recall, the Kumho seems to get the thumbs up.

Oh and let us know what you eventually settle on.

[buddah51au]

Goodyear Eagle F1, They are very quiet with outstanding wet weather grip. Kuhmo are a softer compound from what I have heard.

[Chr1s]

Michelin Pilot Sport 3's - CANNOT say no to them.

[I CU2]

Goodyear Eagle F1, They are very quiet with outstanding wet weather grip. Kuhmo are a softer compound from what I have heard.

If you don't mind me asking, how much were the Goodyears?

Where are they made?

Might have to look into them. They look good.

EDIT: Also, what is the difference between the Asymmetric 2 and Directional 5?

[buddah51au]

If you don't mind me asking, how much were the Goodyears?

Where are they made?

Might have to look into them. They look good.

EDIT: Also, what is the difference between the Asymmetric 2 and Directional 5?

When I got mine they were on special - buy 4, pay for 3. Cost $1114.00. Manufactured in Thailand

I am only guessing but Asymmetric is non directional so can be diagonally rotated, while Directional can only be run in 1 direction only.

[I CU2]

When I got mine they were on special - buy 4, pay for 3. Cost $1114.00

Which store did you purchase them from?

[aaronng]

I'd go for either of these three:
Bridgestone RE002
Continental ContiSport Contact 2
Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric

[buddah51au]

Which store did you purchase them from?

Goodyear in Hervey Bay

[alexkid]

I have just got 2 hankooks on the front and i am pretty happy with them and they are similar price to Mich

[Fredoops]

I have just got 2 hankooks on the front and i am pretty happy with them and they are similar price to Mich

You paid Michelin prices for Hankooks?!?!?!? Wtf?!

Hankooks should be priced below Kumhos.... By quite a bit.

[natnat]

Hankook is the number 1 tyre brand in Korea according to my Korean friend. Even VW uses Hankook as OEM on their VW Golfs and Tiguans, along with other premium brands. You can see Michelin / Dunlop / Bridgestone / Hankook / Conti fitted to VW Golf 118 TSI, because they just make so many Golf's!

at the moment this would be my choice when my Michelins die:
TOYO
T1-SPORT PROXES
Profile : 235/45R18
Speed : 98Y XL

http://www.performancealloys.com/tyre-details.aspx?ID=3654

some reviews:
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Toyo/Proxes-T1-Sport.htm

these Toyos should be made in Japan.

around AU$1050 landed plus credit card fee and local fitting / balance fees. No custom / GST as the items total cost excl shipping is under $1k.

[serpeant]

What about the Dunlop Fast Responses?

Beurepairs have them on sale for $214 each.

[alexkid]

i didnt pay that much but that is what the tyre place charges
i paid $250 a tyre
they are hankook ventus v8 Rs 235/45/18
but i have been told you can change the diameter a little like get some 245/40/18 or something along this line and it wont change your speedo plus there is more choice avialable and they are wider so give you more grip

[Fredoops]

i didnt pay that much but that is what the tyre place charges
i paid $250 a tyre
they are hankook ventus v8 Rs 235/45/18
but i have been told you can change the diameter a little like get some 245/40/18 or something along this line and it wont change your speedo plus there is more choice avialable and they are wider so give you more grip

Hmm that's like sumitomo/falken prices.

[natnat]

I have just got 2 hankooks on the front and i am pretty happy with them and they are similar price to Mich

so you are saying the Hankook is $400-$450 each? Michelin Primacy HP is quoted around $450 each.

or your dealer managed to get you a quote of $250 for a Michelin but you chose Hankook instead?

[I CU2]

When I got mine they were on special - buy 4, pay for 3. Cost $1114.00. Manufactured in Thailand

I was quoted a tiny bit lower than what you paid but unfortunately the Goodyear factory in Thailand is waterlogged too so I can't get them!

[alexkid]

what happend was the tyre place went to order some pirelli tyres and the supplier made a mistake and said i could get the hankooks for the same price as the pirelli tyres
i would have chosen the michelins but they cant do the same price i was told this was a 1 off deal and that if i wanted more hankooks i would have to pay more

[Fredoops]

You picked Hankooks Over Pirelli? O.o

[gbang007]

paid $250 last month per tyre for Pilot Sport 3 fitted!

[I CU2]

paid $250 last month per tyre for Pilot Sport 3 fitted!

From where?

In 235/45/18?

EDIT:


Picked up a set of Michelin Pilot sport 3 - 225/45/17 fitted to my Euro for $1000! Bargain......

Yeah, for some unknown reason Honda put on these weird sized 18" on the CU2 so they're quite a bit more dear in comparison to other sizes.

All the tyre shops I've been calling are asking me to re-confirm size because of the width and other suggest to get a 245 sized tyre as it'd be cheaper. urgh.

[natnat]

paid $250 last month per tyre for Pilot Sport 3 fitted!

it has to be 225 45 17. there is no way on earth (at least in Aust and UK) a PS3 sells for $250 each in 235 45 18.

Not even in UK Performance Alloys: http://www.performancealloys.com/Find-Tyres-By-Size.aspx?size=235/45R18&bid=2

[denot]

Hi guys, thanks for some useful info currently looking for tyre replacement for my, er..., my bro in law's CU2 as well. Which of these tyres are the quietest?

[mrgu]

Pirelli P7 I have got

[blabla]

Hankook K110 or k107 check em out

http://www.google.com.au/m/search?q=hankook+k107&hl=en&client=ms-android-htc&source=android-browser-goto&v=133247963&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=zF8aT4H1EtCtiQenuKDgCw&ved=0CDUQsAQ&biw=320&bih=533

http://www.google.com.au/m/search?q=hankook+k110&hl=en&client=ms-android-htc&source=android-browser-goto&v=133247963&prmd=imvnsfd&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=k18aT7-FLYaTiAedkb2aCw&ved=0CCkQsAQ&biw=320&bih=533

[furythree]

goddamn
trolling this thread to decide on next set of tyres
but no consensus can be seen here lol

Lets start a poll?

[Fredoops]

goddamn
trolling this thread to decide on next set of tyres
but no consensus can be seen here lol

Lets start a poll?

A better thread would be:

"My budget is $xxx per tyre, whats the best for that price range"

[buddah51au]

Why dont individuals google a review of the tyres they are considering, that should give them a better understanding of the product they are buying.

[Fredoops]

Why dont individuals google a review of the tyres they are considering, that should give them a better understanding of the product they are buying.


But are they exact the same? considering some reviewed are made on the other side of the globe compared to the tyres we got?

[SPQR]

Motor magazine current issue has a tyre test in it. I think Goodyear won.

[Fredoops]

Motor magazine current issue has a tyre test in it. I think Goodyear won.

It did.

But it's wet performance was mid pack...

[SPQR]

It still won. I'm sure the differences in performance is splitting hairs.

[natnat]

goddamn
trolling this thread to decide on next set of tyres
but no consensus can be seen here lol

Lets start a poll?

if all you use the tyres is just for street use and always drive sensibly, any of the decent branded ones from Kumho to Michelin will do just fine. avoid any Chinese branded rubber.. or plastic?

pick one that suits your budget, priorities and preferences (mileage vs grip, dry vs wet or balanced, asymmetric vs directional, made in China or Germany / France / Japan, buy local or personal import, etc...)

[euRo_noob]

Hey guys, how is the brand Gemstone? I just bought a pair of Gemstones for my TE's because I just wanted cheap tyres for now until my front TE's arrive and then I'll probably buy proper tyres. Was planning on getting Kumho KU31's? My budget would be $400 and under please. 235/35 and 215/35

[Fredoops]

Genstone I heard was slippery in the wet
What about roadstone , which is Nexen, thy are decent in the wet. And cheap

[buddah51au]

But are they exact the same? considering some reviewed are made on the other side of the globe compared to the tyres we got?

Very few Tyres are made in Australia. To my way of thinking it would be too difficult to change the structure & compound of a tyre for different markets around the world, so I would say yes they are the same.

Personally, I believe people should stay with known quality brands & forget about the cheap rubish that is available. Tyres are the only thing between our cars & the road, most tyres would be ok on dry roads, but on wet roads it is a different story. Do we put affordability before safety? Some people unfortunately do, all they want is some black rubber with tread & don't consider what might happen when conditions turn bad.

[natnat]

watch this and think before you go with really cheap tyres. imo if you can afford a CU2, i'm sure you can afford a decent set of tyres. Kumho KU31 (i haven't tried this myself but they get decent reviews, in fact i tried kumho ku23 and hated them so much and sold them in a week) in 235 45 18 is like $800 a set, how much more do you want to save for the sake of safety?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GM9rqTtL8UA

[Fredoops]

While I agree with both of youse' on price and quality of tyres, I for one take wet performance more importantly than dry, so I rate my tyres slightly differently.

My previous set of KU31's were very good in the dry, but it's wet performance is less so, and that tends to be the case for performance-esque tyres, budget tyres, because of their tread pattern and compound, tend to work better in the wet, especially in terms to aquaplaneing.

[denot]

watch this and think before you go with really cheap tyres. imo if you can afford a CU2, i'm sure you can afford a decent set of tyres. Kumho KU31 (i haven't tried this myself but they get decent reviews, in fact i tried kumho ku23 and hated them so much and sold them in a week) in 235 45 18 is like $800 a set, how much more do you want to save for the sake of safety?


They could just use a $50 per tyre "discounted tyre" that only have 1% thread left. And the driver looks like a d-head!!! :p

[DreadAngel]

While I agree with both of youse' on price and quality of tyres, I for one take wet performance more importantly than dry, so I rate my tyres slightly differently.

My previous set of KU31's were very good in the dry, but it's wet performance is less so, and that tends to be the case for performance-esque tyres, budget tyres, because of their tread pattern and compound, tend to work better in the wet, especially in terms to aquaplaneing.

That's a broad statement...

The performance tires, I'm unsure which ones you're talking about, but from what I've driven and done with my own cars, definitely out performed any of the budget brand ones or even the standard lineup from the reputation companies.

You mention compound and tread patterns as being a factors. This might be the case if you're driving the softest street compound tires [AD07/08s, RE01R/11, Sport Z1 Star Spec] that are designed to excel in summer or normal condition [Warm + Dry]. Then again most tires if you go at speed or aren't being alert enough and hit deep standing water will jerk the car around and quite violently too. These type of tires need heat in them to work at their optimum or peak capacity even in the rain. If you use say RE002, KU31, S-Drives, etc. Harder compounds than those marshmellows summer ones, I'm pretty sure you'll find them outperform any of the budget or standard lineup tires in both wet & dry situations. There are certain ones such as the RE001s that don't really perform that well in the wet but has sense been superceded by models that perform well in both wet n dry.

Wet performance is very difficult to gauge, the difference between tires on say aquaplaning can be simply from driving style [Smooth and Precise v Brash input and transition in steering/pedal work]. If you're silky smooth and not brash, quite precise with your driving inputs, you can usually feel the limit of grip which the tires can provide at a given moment. If your quite the opposite then no matter what tires you have, in wet weather you're going to break traction momentarily or constantly.

However with so many variables playing into it, you can't accurately gauge a tyre's wet performance unless you can driving in exact same conditions and exact motions. It's obvious the ones that won't track at all, they just spin and slide at a moments notice but the rest is harder to split. Some maybe better in say motorway speeds straight line and horrid when coming and going around a roundabout for instance. Others might be opposite or a compromise of both. Just some thought.

[Fredoops]

I agree with your points. My concerns were with the tyre tests that magazines conduct. I'd give more weight to the tyres that performed well in the wet than the one which came first overall bu thise came first almost never came first in the wet tests as far as I could remember.

The tyre tests conducted by car magazines usually have the same point weight among wet and dry tests. IMO they should give more weight to wet tests than dry due to inherent environmental factors

[buddah51au]

I agree with your points. My concerns were with the tyre tests that magazines conduct. I'd give more weight to the tyres that performed well in the wet than the one which came first overall bu thise came first almost never came first in the wet tests as far as I could remember.

The tyre tests conducted by car magazines usually have the same point weight among wet and dry tests. IMO they should give more weight to wet tests than dry due to inherent environmental factors

All tyre tests are carried out in a controlled environment on the same road surface & conditions, however they give a reasonable indication as to tyre preference. Normally they only compare the best of a given size & usually there is not a lot of difference between first & last. However, there can be a lot of difference in every day road use as we could be driving on concrete, course chip bitumen or freeway conditions in which case the grip levels will change between road surfaces. It is no different than road test reviews where we get the opinion of different individuals.

[furythree]

ok looks like ill be after a set that handles well in wet

even with stock michelins, i tyre spin bad in the wet. Puts the VSA to good use!
i dun drive like a lunatic anyway...much

[d_evilz]

i have a set of falken fk452 waiting to be put on this weekend :)

[alexkid]

i took the hankooks back and the tyre place gave me my money back and i now have 4 Goodyear eagle F1's on and they are a great tyre

[Rudy]

Euro Noob: If you bought TEs, you can afford some proper tyres instead of Gemstone imo. Good deals on ebay if you search.

[afgmoh]

Hey guys, I have a CL9 and my front 2 tyres have some pretty low tread and was in the market at just replacing the front 2. The back are fine, and the spare has never been used.
I really wanted something that can make the ride much smoother and quieter perhaps, cos i've noticed with more use the ride has become a bit louder and uncomfortable. Would these tyres still fit for a CL9? (I'm not too familiar with tyres) Or would there be any others you'd suggest?

[tony1234]

Hey guys, I have a CL9 and my front 2 tyres have some pretty low tread and was in the market at just replacing the front 2. The back are fine, and the spare has never been used.
I really wanted something that can make the ride much smoother and quieter perhaps, cos i've noticed with more use the ride has become a bit louder and uncomfortable. Would these tyres still fit for a CL9? (I'm not too familiar with tyres) Or would there be any others you'd suggest?
Michelin PS3s

[Type R Positive]

Order tyres from USA! Tirerack.com.
I just ordered a set, just about all tyres for the CU2 euro 17" (225/50R17 98 load rating) cost between US$120 - US$140. Shipping is US$325 a set.
They have heaps to choose from (16 to be exact), so not short of selection...
Saved over $400!!! :)

[sodaz]

Michelin PS3 is the best all round tyre to get.

[denot]

Hi Guys,

Going to Taleb tomorrow and getting Toyo Proxes 4... Any review on these? I'm replacing the Kumhos, so just wondering if Toyo better than Kumhos?

Thanks

[furythree]

i just got my new rims and tyres installed
got toyo proxes 4 from taleb - $200 each installed

they seem pretty good and have decent reviews.

Made in Japan with some additional silica compound.

mine were exact same as stock 235/45r/18

nothing wrong so far. I like the tread pattern alot more than the michelins

[denot]

i just got my new rims and tyres installed
got toyo proxes 4 from taleb - $200 each installed

they seem pretty good and have decent reviews.

Made in Japan with some additional silica compound.

mine were exact same as stock 235/45r/18

nothing wrong so far. I like the tread pattern alot more than the michelins

Dang u fury! That set is mine!!! Now i hope they have another set :(

[Rudy]

Great price on the Toyos... this is why you dont need to go that Tirerack since local seller often have good deals if you know how to look for one. Not to mention wire transfer only at Tirerack..f that!

[pitiek]

Potenza Sale - Buy 3 and get the 4th Tyre Free
http://www.bridgestone.com.au/potenza/

[Fredoops]

Great price on the Toyos... this is why you dont need to go that Tirerack since local seller often have good deals if you know how to look for one. Not to mention wire transfer only at Tirerack..f that!

discounttiredirect does paypal...

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/home.do

[EuroGraphite]

Order tyres from USA! Tirerack.com.
I just ordered a set, just about all tyres for the CU2 euro 17" (225/50R17 98 load rating) cost between US$120 - US$140. Shipping is US$325 a set.
They have heaps to choose from (16 to be exact), so not short of selection...
Saved over $400!!! :)

I have bought from tirerack in the past as well. The savings over those sold here are significant. Not to mention the larger selection of tyres to choose from.



For Australian conditions, I highly recommend checking out this: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=MP


For more 'economical' choices, have a look here: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=UHP

hth..

[EuroGraphite]

Just another quick point, I think sticking with the main brands is a good idea. However, no 'brands' as a whole is better than another. A high performance kumho will outperform a midrange pirelli/michelin/bridgestone etc. The 'model' of tyre is more important imho...

[ChaosMaster]

Just to put it in there, my Conti Sport Contact 3 definitely have more grip than my Dunlop SP Sport 2050a I had before, but god their loud. If you care about noise level, just avoid. Not going with Conti's anymore.

Edit: The problem with reading online reviews is that their made by a lot of random people. Take my Conti CSC3 as an example, it's actually rated very highly in tireracks survey, however my own experience differs greatly. The problem is that most people had the Conti CSC3 as OEM equipment, then they changed to cheap tyres like Kumho or basic Bridgestone/Mich/Yoko ect so they rate the Conti's higher than what their worth. If only there was a website where tyres were tested under similar conditions.

[aaronng]

Was not impressed with the SP Sport 2050a. I liked Bridgestone RE001 but it was noisy and had poor wet acceleration traction. However for normal street driving it is very good. I have a set of Yokohama AD08 and those are the bomb!

[ChaosMaster]

Was not impressed with the SP Sport 2050a. I liked Bridgestone RE001 but it was noisy and had poor wet acceleration traction. However for normal street driving it is very good. I have a set of Yokohama AD08 and those are the bomb!

Oh definitely, the SP Sport 2050a won't compare to the RE001 but their in 2 different classes. The SP are Ultra High Performance Summer Tyres, the RE's are Extreme Performance (2 categories above). But as a road tyre, where max traction is less important than Road Noise, I'ld take the SP any day.

[aaronng]

Oh definitely, the SP Sport 2050a won't compare to the RE001 but their in 2 different classes. The SP are Ultra High Performance Summer Tyres, the RE's are Extreme Performance (2 categories above). But as a road tyre, where max traction is less important than Road Noise, I'ld take the SP any day.

SP 2050a is much more expensive than RE001 as well. Thing is, the 2050a is an OEM-grade tyre, so if you were to try to buy that from a tyre shop, they would charge you at least $250 for a 205/55 R16.

[ChaosMaster]

SP 2050a is much more expensive than RE001 as well. Thing is, the 2050a is an OEM-grade tyre, so if you were to try to buy that from a tyre shop, they would charge you at least $250 for a 205/55 R16.

I thought neither were in production anymore. And price isn't really everything, Nitto Invo is fairly cheap, but it's a bloody great tyre. Same goes for the KU36, although wear is an issue.

[euRo_noob]

Euro Noob: If you bought TEs, you can afford some proper tyres instead of Gemstone imo. Good deals on ebay if you search.

I just saw this lol. I only bought the gemstones because I was testing out stuff still. E.g. how many degrees of negative camber I'm going to get. Will I need to work on my guards more etc. I didn't want to buy good brand tyres straight away as I wasn't sure how my tyres will be damaged. Also, I didn't have my fronts in yet so buying the rears first and the fronts second, it'd be uneven for me and I'd have to change them at different times perhaps.

Now that I have my fronts on, Michelin Pilot.. something, I forgot. 225/40/19 but I want to go maybe 215/40/19 (will be hard to find) and for my rears, the Gemstones are 245/35/19, I want to go 235/35/19. I'm trying to look at this thread properly and see what are some good tyres but you all seem to be just talking about stock size? Any suggestions or recommendations for a bit of stretch?

19x8.5 currently on 225/40. Should I try go 215/40 or 225/35? I don't want super thin tyres.. I like the look of a bit of meat but not a lot.
19x9.5 currently on 245/35. Looking to go 235/35?

Edit: My writing on the Gemstones are cut in half due to my guards at one point so that's what I meant by still trying out things. Didn't want to really ruin some decent tyres.

[Lazarus]

Just got new KU31 up front and second hand (done 2000km) potenza re040 at back. loving it