Keep my NA MX5 or sell it and buy an S2000?

[itrungs]

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[Ten Four]

Trick question?
MX5 have a LS1 or something?

S2K FTW!

Definitely comfy enough to daily (in stock-ish form) and decent economy if you keep the revs low. I can manage 500-550km if I baby it... (Note I never let it get empty)

[trism]

just keep it. if you sell it, youll miss it.

[GSi_PSi]

Not sure if serious on easier power gains on an 1.6L mx5 vs 2.0L f20c.....

There are n/a s2000's lapping 1:07 around Wakefield park some even stock motors.
Do I need to say more :)

[eg5civic]

As above you will see way more power gains out of intake/headers/exhaust in an s2k than an mx5.

A b16 civic will eat an mx5 straight line and a stock s2k will eat a b16 civic everyday of the week.

If it was me I'd personally sell the mx5, do suspension work to it, and even on a stock as a rock motor setup you'd be faster than modified mx5s

[LEWD]

I like MX5's, with some proper modifications they are absolutely fantastic on the track. Easy to turbo the engine, parts are everywhere and easy to work on, oh, and incredibly easy to drive on the limit.

The S2000 is far superior out of the box (also more expensive), possibly a bit more of a handful to drive on the limit, modifications are plentiful but unless you are going to spend big money on your aftermarket parts, most will actually detract from performance as the car is properly engineered out of the box so spending $800 on coilovers is not going to do you any favours.

Personal preference really, with either you cant go wrong.

[Vicks]

Hey man,

I'll give you my opinion considering I moved from an NA6 to the AP1.

Cabin room you're not going getting more room than the NA. It's still a tad tight however that's the way roadsters should be. I was in your position, I had an option to go all out on the NA or upgrade to the AP1. In terms of power, yes you can get more power out of the b6 than the f20c. Slap a turbo on the b6 and you'll be flying combining it with it's light weight. If you want to take it a step further by swapping it to a b8+t, sr20, or even a ls1.

-The gear shifting is simply amazing - best I've ever felt.
-Revs to 9,000 rpm.
-Auto soft-top roof. (compared to the manual ones on mx5s)

Reason I sold it was because it just too old - rust, rattles, loud. Not something I would take to work everyday. Yes, I could've spent the extra cash to have to restored but was it really worth it? To me, no. I wanted a newer base to work on and the s2000 seemed like the best option - N/A(because I'm on my p's).

The cons of owning one?
-Insurance is over the roof, I'm <25 and it's about $3,000 / year.
-Modding the car isn't cheap for this car.
-Petrol - I get around 400km on a full tank. I don't how some get 500-550kms, I baby mine and yet I barely hit over 400kms. Still doesn't concern me though.

[vyets]

answer to your problems... f20c mx5 heheh but yea might not be able to street it.

but if you're looking for something in between maybe a 2zz-ge converted mr-s

but like others said, the s2000 is a better car but alot more expensive, the car itself and the mods.
mx5 is alot easier and more fun to drive.

[jowjeh]

you don't need to mod an s2k, they're ridiculous from factory. You're only gonna get an extra 20kw atw from N/A mods after spending at least 5k. Unless you're after sound from an exhaust system, not worth the cash (or if you're loaded go ahead lol why not).

Point is, from factory, they are the bomb. Tuned the way the are to handle like mofo's on a track and go enough.

[AusS2000]

As above you will see way more power gains out of intake/headers/exhaust in an s2k than an mx5.


Classic OzHonda post. Spoken authoritatively we absolutely no basis in reality whatsoever.

[AusS2000]

The S2000 is pretty highly tuned from the factory. As a result, NA tuning mods don't really improve it much.

So yes, you will get a much more noticeable improvement from I/H/E mods on a 1.6L MX5, and it'll still be slower than a stock S2000.

[stndrd]

As above you will see way more power gains out of intake/headers/exhaust in an s2k than an mx5.

A b16 civic will eat an mx5 straight line and a stock s2k will eat a b16 civic everyday of the week.

If it was me I'd personally sell the mx5, do suspension work to it, and even on a stock as a rock motor setup you'd be faster than modified mx5s



Classic OzHonda post. Spoken authoritatively we absolutely no basis in reality whatsoever.


Have you got the dyno sheets to back up your words? I have heard (tho never proven) you can see some good power gains on early MX5 engine's with simple mods. You cannot compare outright killerwasps between the two engine's if that's what you mean

[Newtype]

Get a S2000, you'll have no regrets =)

[AusS2000]

Have you got the dyno sheets to back up your words?


Nope. And it's not even worth my time to compile the almost infinite examples of people getting single digit (if any) improvement from IHE on S2000. I'll tell ya what. For every example of someone making 20rwkw from IHE on a S2000 I'll find you 10 MX5's improving there output byt he same. Your move.

[stndrd]

I was referring to an S2000 making more power gains from I/H/E than an MX5. I would have thought that an MX5 would have seen slightly better gains than an S2000 seeing how you are allowing the little 1.6L to breath alot easier. I personally already understand how finely tuned an S2000 is from factory, but alot of the new comers don't

[BlitZ]

mx5 is weaksauce..great car but no power. Especially witht he 1.6lt.

No point having a perfectly balanced car if it does the quarter in 22secs. S2000 hands down.

Not sure about mx5, but the s2k is pretty optimal from factory. Mods in NA form dont usaully yield much power.

[GSi_PSi]

OP my best advise Pro-S2000 is to take one for a test drive, because a lot deciding a car is the first hand experience, try and find one that is modded to your liking as this will make your
life much easier in the long run. Dont be afraid of mods, Modded-taken care of cars are sometimes much better than a stock car which has been neglected and abused.

[aozora]

+1

I kind of need a test drive to settle this.

Also, I tend to check out the modified cars first. They're usually from an enthusiast who's taken extra care of it despite driving it hard here and there.

If you're track orientated...

From memory when my friend had his MX-5, alot of the MX-5 club had alot of trouble breaking into the sub-2 minute mark at Philip Island. I think only modded turbo NBs made it to 1:58 or there abouts? Others didn't even come close. But that's a fairly high speed track. In comparison, a lightly modded S2K with R-specs should be able to manage around the same time.
Even on a average lower speed track, like Winton - my friend with his NA MX-5 had R-specs, coilovers and I/E managed a 1:44 or there abouts? A stock S2K with R-specs can get 1:42. Reasonably experienced drivers mind you.

I've driven his car and it's alot of fun to drive but it's not a competitive/fast car out of the box by any means. That said, go all out on it and I've seen a Turbo NA MX-5 put Evos at Winton to shame. To go all out on a S2K WILL cost you alot of money. I have no idea why but after I came from a Nissan, modding the Honda was ridiculously expensive. But that said, parts are getting cheaper with "copy" brands lying about.. if you don't mind that sort of thing.

And as mentioned already, drive it first. No point in analysing specifications if you can't fall in love with it :)

[niiCk]

sell my your mx5 after!:)

[EKVTIR-T]

Lets be fair to the mx5 as far as laptimes go,we're talking about a huge power defecit

[GSi_PSi]

sell my your mx5 after!:)

http://sas.guidespot.com/bundles/guides_rg/assets/widget_az1dWo-5PmFBPxty3ogTXv.jpg

[aozora]

Lets be fair to the mx5 as far as laptimes go,we're talking about a huge power defecit

Of course but the MX-5 is also lighter :)

[bennjamin]

Having thrashes both around the track and on the road It takes a better driver to make a s2k go well.It's a peaky motor that needs to be held high rpms.A mx5 is a much easier car to push....which for 99% of you guys on here makes it a quicker more useable car. Just my opinion.

[chunsa]

Not sure if it was a serious race but consider these drivers from BMI racing it out with stock cars

S2000 just dominates!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKjCUrij5YU

[Aleksa]

s2000 pro's: Faster, newer, better handling... pretty much way better car from the start. Also don't just look at it from the the performance side, look at financials too. s2000 will hold it's value better then mx5 and re-selling will be so much easier. Also spending heaps of money on a mx5 will just result in an old mx5 with heaps of money put into it. Also s2000's are great stock and when u do finally get off your p's u cant get it turboed or supercharged and it will be even faster. I know because I have been crazy in the past and spent thousands on cars that are well pretty much expired and I could of just bought an entirely newer and overall better car. I say s2000, I would of bought one myself if I could fit in it...

[89lude]

[QUOTE=Aleksa;3206672]Also s2000's are great stock and when u do finally get off your p's u cant get it turboed or supercharged and it will be even faster.QUOTE]

This guy is spot on! Spend all that money on mx5 yields a maxed out car equiv to a mild s2k, that cost the same as an s2000. The s2000 will still have more potential for when you're on your opens!

[Mezza]

Something everyone has forgotten:

You don't point and laugh at people driving S2000's.

[89lude]

not at hard tops though...

[cihanvtec]

keep it! if you have any doubts about letting it go, your not ready to let it go. my eh sedan was written off. i was contemplating wheter i should get a new car or not, but just couldnt let it go. ive now recently just bought another one. it was taken away too soon :(

hahah keept it man you will regret selling it.

[aozora]

Something everyone has forgotten:

You don't point and laugh at people driving S2000's.
Why not? Tossers drive all types of cars :p

[JamieP]

Get rid of the mx5 dude! Ur a uni student, your too young for a car like that. Get the s2k :)

[DreadAngel]

Not sure if it was a serious race but consider these drivers from BMI racing it out with stock cars

S2000 just dominates!

Of course the S2K with a racing driver would kill RX8, WRX [Non-STi], V35 350GT, DC5R and NB6/8...

And its Gan san @ the wheel... NOOOO FEEARRRUUUuuu

[9large]

Of course the S2K with a racing driver would kill RX8, WRX [Non-STi], V35 350GT, DC5R and NB6/8...

And its Gan san @ the wheel... NOOOO FEEARRRUUUuuu

All those cars were driven by pros though...