Vti-r clutch

[Phantasm]

I need a new clutch for my 96 civic vtir, and was wondering what alternatives there are to the $350 stock or pbr? models at a similar price. I would like a more performance orientated clutch that still has an easy operation and good low speed drivability. Ive heard organic clutches are good for this, anyone know where would i find such a clutch?? A whole kit would be needed, which pressure plate.....

Any help would be appreciated.

[|N|]

try daiken/exedy they r pretty good...

[panda[cRx]]

yeah talk to adrian at toda, they get exedy nice and cheap

[tanghy]

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=241071

worth every penny

[Weq]

JDM, WOW.
u can get a custom made for half the price.

[tanghy]

it's a supersingle
comes with clutch/pressure plates + flywheel..

[Psyklops]

hey Phantasm which clutch did you get in the end? I need a new one very soon, and got a very good quote on a PBR from a Melbourne parts shop (BTW I have a D series)...are the PBRs OK for normal driving with an occasional thrashing? A mate has a PBR on his Datto 1600, and no probs at all...(very worked Datto mind you---it friggin canes).....and he drives it much harder than I drive my EG

[red-vtir]

I've got exedy sport organic and it is great hard but great. The whole kit as well

[Da1nONLY]

highly recommended
Exedy Sports Organic....

[type one]

highly recommended
Exedy Sports Organic....

DITTO - good feel :)

[VTi-R Civic]

Just curious why you need an upgraded clutch? Is the stocky not holding?

[Psyklops]

because it is WORN OUT my friend...they are after all a consumable part like brake pads, windscreen wipers etc....OEM is too $$$.....I am aware the Exedy Organic HD clutches are one of the best BFYB, but PBR are about half the price....so....are the PBRs any good? Anyone?

[type one]

PBR is half the price?? SHITE... that's pretty cheap then. Cos Exedy organic clutch (plate and cover) comes in around 350 to max 400. You telling me PBR is half that again?

[Psyklops]

yep..and then some...that's what I was quoted..and is a similar price to what a mate paid for the one on his Datto...sourced from the same parts shop too...

[VTi-R Civic]

because it is WORN OUT my friend...they are after all a consumable part like brake pads, windscreen wipers etc....OEM is too $$$.....I am aware the Exedy Organic HD clutches are one of the best BFYB, but PBR are about half the price....so....are the PBRs any good? Anyone?


I would like a more performance orientated clutch that still has an easy operation and good low speed drivability.

I wasn't trying to be smart - I realise yours must be worn out (I'm not stupid). When you said you wanted a "more performance oriented clutch" I automatically interpreted that as you saying you wanted an upgraded clutch.

Performance oriented typically mean more $$$. I have spent way too much money on my cars over the years and am not new to "consumable" parts.

I was all set to upgrade my clutch when it went and the guy at the place I use for clutches said "why?". It made sense since the original never slipped and I am running a stock engine. I replaced it with a OEM equivalent clutch and it has never let me down. Personally i wouldn't bother upgrading the friction material or assembly itself unless I was making enough power to have the stocky slip or was driving it hard enough to make it slip.

FWIW I bought my clutch assembly from Specialised Brake and Clutch. I have good experience with them and they won't sell you something you don't need.

[Psyklops]

I know what ya mean in regards an uprated clutch being pointless on a stock car....what OEM equivelant did you get installed? how much did it set ya back?

[Psyklops]

just confirming I have been quoted on a full kit...pressure plate, thrust bearing & cover (or whatever is included in a kit)...the guy assured me it is full kit, ready to be wacked into a car...for $185 (not installed of course)

[VTi-R Civic]

I have to check but I think my total bill was something like $280 (this was over a year ago). That included surfacing the flywheel, new pressure plate, new clutch disc and new throwout bearing.

I can check my receipts when I get home and confirm. :thumbsup:

In my experience with my B16A the stock clutch won't let you down (ie: slip) in normal driving conditions (and I give mine a reasonably hard time). :D

[Psyklops]

obviously you're in Sydney, but who installed it? that seems awfully cheap for parts & labour! did they do a good job? was it a franchise chain (you know the ones) that installed it? or your local mechanic....

edit....just read your post where you say who installed it:o

[**Ghost**]

hey psyklops wot does PBR stand for and can u tell me where u can source those clutches?

[Psyklops]

I wouldn't have a clue what PBR stands for to be honest, but like I have said, I think they might be able to take a fair bit of punishment going on my mates one in his datto...I was referred to Moparts in Croydon, VIC for these....I guess I'll find out in the next week or so what PBR clutches are like as I have one on order to hopefully pick up on Saturday....will get it wacked in next week at some point...I'd try installing it myself, but it isn't the sort of job I want to learn on my own

[LAGOOT]

highly recommended
Exedy Sports Organic....DITTO i second that :thumbsup:

[**Ghost**]

for that price i'd take PBR over exedy... never have been much of a brand name person as long as the part odes the job good i'm happy

[Cyrus]

I wasn't trying to be smart - I realise yours must be worn out (I'm not stupid). When you said you wanted a "more performance oriented clutch" I automatically interpreted that as you saying you wanted an upgraded clutch.

Performance oriented typically mean more $$$. I have spent way too much money on my cars over the years and am not new to "consumable" parts.

I was all set to upgrade my clutch when it went and the guy at the place I use for clutches said "why?". It made sense since the original never slipped and I am running a stock engine. I replaced it with a OEM equivalent clutch and it has never let me down. Personally i wouldn't bother upgrading the friction material or assembly itself unless I was making enough power to have the stocky slip or was driving it hard enough to make it slip.

FWIW I bought my clutch assembly from Specialised Brake and Clutch. I have good experience with them and they won't sell you something you don't need.

I totally agree, getting a higher performance clutch which your car don't need is just a waste and it's gonna be more of a bitch to drive. I used to drive a fully modded civic and all it got was a heavy duty.....it didn't start slipping until i got a set of spoon cams and gasket in it......

[VTi-R Civic]

obviously you're in Sydney, but who installed it? that seems awfully cheap for parts & labour! did they do a good job? was it a franchise chain (you know the ones) that installed it? or your local mechanic....

edit....just read your post where you say who installed it:o

I installed it myself. It's fairly straightforward but maybe not something you want to do if you are a novice.

[Psyklops]

ahh well that would explain the low cost.....it i something I could do, but without the right equipment & a second person with the knowledge, I ain't going there....'tis a shame, as I reckon it wouldn't be too hard

[VTi-R Civic]

You are right - it is pretty easy if you are mechanically minded.


Main thing was I wound up buying one of those frames you mount over the engine bay so you can chain the block to it while undoing the gearbox. What that cost me basically covered the labour I saved but I justified it by saying I could use it again in the future or on my sisters car, etc.

What you were quoted for the parts sounds pretty good to me...

[Psyklops]

ok clutch is installed...feels great, much lighter than before, and the car seems a ton more responsive...double de-clutch down changes are so much smoother too...good stuff, and damn cheap too!

[zoopsta]

So did you get the PBR or exedy sports organic?

[Psyklops]

Pbr....

[Sitwy]

how much it cost u to install + machine the flywheel?

[mini_s2000]

hey, mine is just getting replaced now.... i'm changing the brass button to the exedy organic clutch! the exedy is supposed to be a great upgrade.

[Psyklops]

not as cheap as some people on this site have managed to get it done for....I paid $300, which covered labour & flywheel machining



how much it cost u to install + machine the flywheel?

[civiceg9]

daiken/excedy heavy duty performance clutch you pay only $50 or $100 more.

[Psyklops]

I am referring to labour & flywheel machining in respect to the $300....I paid $185 for the clutch kit....

equating to a total outlay of $485 fitted....it works, and is less than half of what Honda would charge...if I turbo my D, then I'll think about an upgrade if this one shat itself....until you need one, why bother getting a HD clutch


daiken/excedy heavy duty performance clutch you pay only $50 or $100 more.

[bennjamin]

....until you need one, why bother getting a HD clutch

Often - a "HD clutch kit" ( non-organic) is JUST a OEM clutch disc , with a slightly harder clamping pressure plate. That is , heavier feel + torque transfer etc. So....why not go HD !

[ProECU]

hey, mine is just getting replaced now.... i'm changing the brass button to the exedy organic clutch! the exedy is supposed to be a great upgrade.

ohhh, i'd certainly think twice about the exedy brand...

First exedy organic I installed slipped from day one.
When I spoke to Adelaide Clutch (maker of exedy) about it, they basically admitted they had issues with the pressure plate design... Thanks for telling me AFTER i spent $400.

This time I went for a ACT Pressure Plate and exedy CERAMIC.

Beautiful!

[SPEEDCORE]

Heh problems with the pressure plate ay??
That's bizzare cause I have seen a quite new excedy pressure plate snap into 3 pieces on a mild tuned N/A DC2R. I was skeptical until I went to the workshop and saw it on the ground with my own two eyes.

Wonder if this "issue" was from a bad batch in production.

[ProECU]

quite possibly..

and this was going back a few yrs also.

[Steer^Gimic]

im sure it would be more of a common problem if the fault was still to date. every product has its good and bad batches.

[Psyklops]

must be a common mis-conception of what a HD clutch really is then, as I (like probably quite a few others) assumed that a HD clutch was designed specifically to take higher loads without failing, where an OEM clutch would fail....not just a heavier feel etc...



Often - a "HD clutch kit" ( non-organic) is JUST a OEM clutch disc , with a slightly harder clamping pressure plate. That is , heavier feel + torque transfer etc. So....why not go HD !

[mini_s2000]

got my exedy organic clutch installed today!!! i'm wearing it in but i can say it feels 100 times better than the brass button i used to have in!