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ducbui91
03-02-2012, 06:04 AM
title says it all.
cheers

arverson
03-02-2012, 12:06 PM
fhrx studios

name says it all

cheers

vtecster
03-02-2012, 01:20 PM
im running alpine type r components and an alpine 2 channnel amp to go with it and sound is crisp and clear. no need for a sub as the small space in the car produces enough sound lol

CRXDEL501
03-02-2012, 09:32 PM
amp - jaycar
speakers - polk
sub... eh. mtx id say.

catacaustic
04-02-2012, 01:16 PM
Depends on your budget, but you could do something like I have.

Head unit: Alpine X305
Amps: Rockford Fosgate T600-2 & T1500-1
Speakers: Boston SPZ60
Sub: Boston SPG555

From the research that I did over a few months that was what I could find to give me the best sound quality and volume that I could get without sacrificing to much of the boot space. I have to say... I an very happy with the set up, but doing it again I'm not sure that I'd stick with the T600-2, might go for the T400-2 as I've already blown one set of speakers... That was an expensive exercise.

ducbui91
06-02-2012, 10:35 PM
hows the boston sub? coz atm ive got a rockford fosgate and thats abit of an overkill for the car and want a sub that works with the car

arverson
07-02-2012, 01:00 AM
define what you mean by 'a sub that works with the car'.

any space/volume restrictions? work out how much room you're willing to sacrifice then get a sub that suits those dimensions.

i see you have a rf sub, what amp is running it? did you want to re-use it?

also, we could mention x or y or z brands/models/series, but we need a budget to work with.. hint hint.. more details please!

have you contacted fhrx yet?

Drifter995
07-02-2012, 11:53 AM
I highly doubt your sub is overkill unless you've got a box that taking up too much room, or you've made it too loud. Either way, it's fixable. If it's too loud, turn it down.

For speakers, go listen to some, and find out what you like. You can't really tell somebody what speakers are good.. only what is available in their price range, since you have not mentioned price range, i'll assume millions of dorra.
Focal Utopia Be Kit N°7/N°7 Active

as for amps, whatever you can afford that has enough power will suffice.
Talk to Fhrx and save yourself lots of suggestions that you either won't like or won't care about.
Talk to Fhrx, they will sort you out, and will help you.

catacaustic
13-02-2012, 08:42 PM
hows the boston sub? coz atm ive got a rockford fosgate and thats abit of an overkill for the car and want a sub that works with the carOverkill?

I have to say, the only time that I've seen something like that that's "overkill" is when the full-range can't stand up the the bass. That's got more to do with the quality and power handling of the full range in your set up then the amp ever will. If the sub is to loud, then ramp up the fulls and you'll be happy. That's why I spent a long time doing my homework. I got the best fulls that I could for that, and they match the sub well. It also has to do with the amp power to them as well. I've seen people that run 500-800 watts into a sub, and use the factory radio to power the full range... and that's the people that claim that the bass is "overkill". ;)

Drifter995
13-02-2012, 11:12 PM
Overkill?

I have to say, the only time that I've seen something like that that's "overkill" is when the full-range can't stand up the the bass. That's got more to do with the quality and power handling of the full range in your set up then the amp ever will. If the sub is to loud, then ramp up the fulls and you'll be happy. That's why I spent a long time doing my homework. I got the best fulls that I could for that, and they match the sub well. It also has to do with the amp power to them as well. I've seen people that run 500-800 watts into a sub, and use the factory radio to power the full range... and that's the people that claim that the bass is "overkill". ;)

I think you'll find turning down the sub is a better option than cranking up the speakers, and possibly popping them from clipping...
You can run stock speakers and a sub easily. You just need to set the gains right, and you're fine.

If the speakers don't sound great still, invest in an amp OR invest in better speakers. Depends on what you want. If you have an old car (such as this s2k) you'd go new speakers and you'd be right.

Tl;dr. Turning down the sub is a much better idea than cranking up the speakers and risking popping them.

1996_EK_Civic
13-02-2012, 11:32 PM
i have almost a full JL Audio set up, love it

ducbui91
15-02-2012, 03:10 PM
it shakes the whole car not sure the exact model of amp but its an infinity monoblock cost about 500-600 from autobarn. the box literally fits perfectly into the little square boot space. willing to spend 1k max on sub.

Drifter995
15-02-2012, 03:30 PM
Dude, just turn down the gains on the amp, it'll be fine.. won't need to change anything...

ducbui91
15-02-2012, 06:26 PM
would dynamat fix this problem?

catacaustic
15-02-2012, 08:41 PM
I think you'll find turning down the sub is a better option than cranking up the speakers, and possibly popping them from clipping...
You can run stock speakers and a sub easily. You just need to set the gains right, and you're fine.
As I said before, I did my homework, I knew what my amp would do, and what the speakers would handle.

Personally, I believe that you should have an amp that will blow whatever speakers that it's attached to any day of the week, and then you can set teh amp to where it should be to ensure that the speakers work as well as they can. Clipping is bad, but if you get that it means that you have got the wrong amp for the speakers that you've chosen.

What it all comes down to is research. If you do it right, you won't have these issues. You might blow a speaker or two from being a bit to happy to turn it up, but you don't get clipping. That's why I bought the bigger amp, and not the one that "matched" my speakers.

And as i said before, you do not need to turn the sub amp down as long as you have your full range sorted out. I'm still waiting for someone to tell me I'm wrong on that one. ;)

slimx
19-02-2012, 09:28 PM
I put a system in a MX5
It is quite similar in "sound system".

What i did was i went for a amp that pulls out 200 WRMS PER CHANNEL
Bought some 8 INCH Speakers for the doors that can handle 250wrms keeping in mind that half of todays products are over-rated i figure it can take 150 rms. (i support the bloke who made that opinion about having more power then a speaker can handle cause your right.. u want it to reach its full power just turn the bloody amp down it isnt hard and well ofcourse like any device/machine the less u use it .. the longer it'll last. Use half its power it'll last 20 years :) use its full and it wont take u 5. :)

I tuned my speakers with heaps of bass. I run no sub. And always get the same question, u got good bass and no rattling and..wheres your sub :S ?

Yes, i used alot of dynamat. The entire door, even around the inside of the door panel. and it didnt hurt to even add rubber washers everywhere inside the door (well costed me 2 hours of my life). especially window area. The only rattling i couldnt prevent is the actual window/glass but thats something u can only hear when the roof is on and well.. i personally only ever put it up when theres a storm, i dont mind getting the interior a lil went wen its raining :D long as ur doing over 80 no rain gets u :)

hard core top downer ;)

ducbui91
21-02-2012, 12:44 AM
so long story short, dynamat will fix all the rattles from the bootlid and all other areas?

slimx
22-02-2012, 06:25 AM
lol. I was bored :( so i wrote an essay.

Dynamat will help sub rattle but not get rid of it. Especially that ugly rattlign noise from outside it wil never go away.

Dynamat will FIX speaker bass rattle though :) and door rattle very efficiently.

mugen_ctr
22-02-2012, 10:36 PM
anything thats alpine Type-R or Type-X gear is good coupled with a V12 amp... Or even Pioneer gear, always had good results from them...

IMO, if u have a very good, top of the range HU+Amp+Speakers, no need for sub, as most top of the range speakers/splits are adequate to cope with what the music is out putting in terms of treble/bass

ducbui91
27-02-2012, 07:12 PM
recommend me a verryyyy goood top of the range headunit amp n speakers. Given its a 6" as 6.5 wont fit

Drifter995
27-02-2012, 07:47 PM
Pioneer dex-p90rs
Focal utopia BE N*6
RE audio XXX 18"
Bonecrusher2 monoblock
FPS 4.160
Audison Bitone processor.

Kgo. mid-highish range stuff.

catacaustic
27-02-2012, 08:01 PM
I did that in my original reply. :P

Head unit: Alpine X-305S. One of the best out there as far as a single-DIN unit goes.
Speakers: Boston SPZ-60. And don't worry.. 6.5" will fit. Every speaker uses spacers, so get some to suit. Very easy solution.
Amp: Rockford Fosgate Power series. I use a T600-2 for the Bostons and it makes them hit hard, and the quality is always good, right up until they melt.

Or are you looking for something that won't actually fit in the car without major mods???

AK Type R
28-02-2012, 07:51 AM
Stick to JL Audio. Awesome sound and quality for the price. There treble and quality can
Not be beaten when there coupled with a JL Audio amp. www.soundmaster.com.au

arverson
28-02-2012, 12:32 PM
recommend me a verryyyy goood top of the range headunit amp n speakers. Given its a 6" as 6.5 wont fit

sigh.. still not a mention of a budget..

fine.. heres some brands/models to get the ball rolling:

headunit: clarion hxd2, pioneer p90rs, alpine, eclipse
amp: audison 'thesis' seris, tru-technology 'super-billet' series, brax, zapco
speakers: micro precision 'z' series, dynaudio 'esotar 2' series, morel supremo, focal utopia be no. 6/7, phass, rainbow

if you have an open budget then you can afford the cost of custom spacers to make 6.5'ers fit. there really isnt much difference between 6" & 6.5" anyway. you'd probably have to be more concerned with depth than width.

contacted fhrx yet?

TbM
28-02-2012, 12:41 PM
Stick to JL Audio. Awesome sound and quality for the price. There treble and quality can
Not be beaten when there coupled with a JL Audio amp. www.soundmaster.com.au
I challange that. Would say focal, morels and a few others have better quality than JL.

2MPRS
28-02-2012, 02:20 PM
i have jl audio splits upfront only the really expensive stuff is good and for that price u could get alot better from other brands

Drifter995
28-02-2012, 02:59 PM
sigh.. still not a mention of a budget..

fine.. heres some brands/models to get the ball rolling:

headunit: clarion hxd2, pioneer p90rs, alpine, eclipse
amp: audison 'thesis' seris, tru-technology 'super-billet' series, brax, zapco
speakers: micro precision 'z' series, dynaudio 'esotar 2' series, morel supremo, focal utopia be no. 6/7, phass, rainbow

if you have an open budget then you can afford the cost of custom spacers to make 6.5'ers fit. there really isnt much difference between 6" & 6.5" anyway. you'd probably have to be more concerned with depth than width.

contacted fhrx yet?

Exactly. You can fit a 6.5" speaker into a 6" hole.. just requires a spacer, which you'd need anyway, as most aftermarket speakers are deeper than factory ones.
Still. Budget, or you're probably going to get quotes for $2,000 each component again.

Seriously, go to fhrx, and talk to them. Give them your budget, they will suggest some great stuff for you.
But make sure you listen to speakers thoroughly before buying them, to make sure they sound exactly the way you want. You don't want to go with what somebody says only to have them hurt your ears, or be too bassy, or too trebbly or what not.
Go to fhrx.