Nissan to join v8 supercars championship

[Riced_Civic]

http://www.v8supercars.com.au

Nissan will join V8 Supercars in 2013 under a factory squad which will be run by Kelly Racing with the backing of NISMO.

after hearing this News V8 has jumped to the top of the things to watch out for in 2013.

Chrysler and Toyota have also showed interest but have yet to confirm.

[Chr1s]

If they use the VK56, game over.

[hondapop]

If they use the VK56, game over.

No doubt they will get boo'ed again (specially if they win)(or should that be when they win)

[senna]

It will be basically a control series, so there is no guarantee that they will win at all - i wish they would allow more development by individual teams to really allow brand superiority, all they would have to do is cap team spending to reduce the disparity...

[jdm_b16a]

All cars will share common componentry so there will be no advantage to any manufacturer, in either aerodynamics or power.

By the end of the 2nd season, the headlines will be

"Nissan to re-evaluate participation in 2015 V8 season"

The only reason this is happening is because FORD is on its last legs and Holden is not far behind. No-one is buying the gas-guzzlers. Even FORD are looking to put a 4 Cyl engine in the Falcon in an effort to save themselves from extinction.

I can't wait to hear about the hostile reaction from the morons who follow Holden or FORD when the Nissan hits the track. You'll know it's a Nissan because of the badge on the boot.

This move is not going to save the V8 circus!

Peter

[mugen_ctr]

YAY! been far too long since nissan came back into the game.... thought the series was nothing like back in the 90's with the famous skyline GTR, im sure Nissan will have some form of success, much like there FIA GT1 program and other world categories...

Shame the rules dont allow the use of aero packages much like super GT or Fia Gt1 categories, nor the silhoutte shapes of coupes and only 4 doors much like DTM, but hey guess thats what makes it a aussie motor sports ;)

[shake]

[QUOTE=mugen_ctr;3239887]YAY! been far too long since nissan came back into the game....QUOTE]

Not like they had a choice. The start of the 93 season was a closed shop entry form, Nissan didn't get an invite.
The only people Nissan are helping out by entering the series, are the people that excluded them in 93, and the fans. Its quite admerable though.
Even though it's going to cost them alot of money and in the short term guarentee no extra sales.

[jdm_b16a]

How long will it be before Ford/Holden complain about the unfairness of having to race their old technology pushrod engines against the Nissan double overhead cam engine, especially if the Nissan starts winning early. Although I think that probably won't happen, not with the Kelly brothers driving anyway. If it was the Stone Bros or Triple888 that would be a different story. The Kellys are backmarkers; that's why they've jumped ship after telling everyone that would listen that they wanted to be the Holden factory team. So how many other teams will Nissan supply cars to? The Kellys have renamed their team the Nissan Factory Team so anyone else would have to be a "Privateer".

This is all a desperate attempt to stave off the inevitable. No-one buys large V8 powered cars (except the Nah Na Na Na Naaaaahhhhhh bogans and their YOOTS).

Peter

[trism]

wont happen.

The engine has to be 5 litre v8 pushrod motor.

means nissan has to totally redesign an existing motor.

[hondapop]

And why would they want to get booed again ?

[trism]

Because there's bogan idiots that believe in nothing but Holden vs Ford. These close minded morons honestly think that a 2 horse race is viable for the future of the sport.

This is the reason however, that they are simply "fans" and not the ones making the decisions like letting more companies in.

As for the Kelly Brothers being back markers, and taking to opportunity to jump ship just because they're racing shit isn't really a fair cop.

Here's two brothers that have raced for pinnacle teams in the sport, won major races, including bathurst, and have been able to form their own team.

Don't think that the decision to back them as the works team was one that was made lightly.

[Fraser]

Well said Trism,they are all just oversized Aussiecars anyhow,all the same.The best racing is where there is a level playing field for all and thats what V8SC have achieved like it or not.Imagine if Honda entered.
I'd like to see no more than 4 cars per manufacturer as a rule and at least a grid of 32.Also no manufacturer engines just the one unbranded V8 all built by V8SCs and leased out all identical hp.Then its all team set up and driver.

[hondapop]

Well said Trism,they are all just oversized Aussiecars anyhow,all the same.The best racing is where there is a level playing field for all and thats what V8SC have achieved like it or not.Imagine if Honda entered.
I'd like to see no more than 4 cars per manufacturer as a rule and at least a grid of 32.Also no manufacturer engines just the one unbranded V8 all built by V8SCs and leased out all identical hp.Then its all team set up and driver.

What you're talking about is more or less the Tasman 5000 open wheeler formula of the 1970's when all the V8's were 5Ltr alloy V8's built by Repco (not absolutely sure but I believe they were based on the alloy engine from the Leyland P76). The difference being that the chassis design was still open to interpretation which still made for competitiveness between manufactures. If you take out all the "edge" between teams then you may as well only have one brand or type of car available to all.

And as far as Honda is concerned it could provide V8's, as it does so to Indy racing.

[cihanvtec]

anyone know what car nissan will be using??

[Fredoops]

anyone know what car nissan will be using??

Some sort of maxima i believe



What they should have is something like the R35 GTR shell with a V8 and...

*trollface* on the rear bumper..... Just for lols

[drsilliez]

Maxima

[jdm_b16a]

wont happen.

The engine has to be 5 litre v8 pushrod motor.

means nissan has to totally redesign an existing motor.


anyone know what car nissan will be using??

See further below in my reply.

Not correct Trism.

The Holden/FORD camps use an engine built specifically for racing. They utilise a NASCAR block and develop heads to suit. It's cheaper for them to do that as they can leverage off the US. Hence the pushrod internals. V8Supercars used this convenient fact to exclude Nissan (and virtually all Japanese/European manufacturers knowing that these manufacturers gave up pushrod engines years ago).

One of my biggest complaints (beside the fact its really a one-make series) is that there is very little on the race car that you can buy off the shelf at your local dealer.

The issue will be "parity". This has already been flagged in a couple of local motorsport publications. All V8 Supercar engines are tuned to produce (approx) 480Kw.

Why? Because Nissan is debuting the 5th Gen Altima in the US this year, and launching locally next year to replace the Maxima. This is the car they will be using in 2013.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/09/2010-nissan-altima-leak.jpg

They are going to use a production-based V8 engine using double overhead camshafts and 4 valves per cylinder. This has been noted in the announcements from Nissan.

If Nissan start winning the first thing FORD/Holden will do is complain about "parity". Nissan will continue to use the engine they develop but it will have restrictions applied to it to bring it back to the field for the sake of "close racing". In fact Skaife was quoted at the launch "They (Nissan) cannot dominate like they did with the Godzilla car. We want them to be competitive and challenging to win races, but they cannot dominate."

If the fans see Nissan sprint away the furore will be very loud; louder than the fuss the crowd made at Bathurst with Richards and Skaife. V8Supercars don't want that - they are putting all their eggs in the red, blue and white basket because without them they are shot!!

http://www.fullboost.com.au/content/news/2012/nissan_1202_v8supercar_02b.jpg

Peter

[Fraser]

There won't be much Nissan,
window frames,door frames,headlights,taillights,the rest will be lookalike composite of a 4 door family car on the same chassis and mechanicals as Ford and Holden and whoever else.

[jdm_b16a]

There won't be much Nissan,
window frames,door frames,headlights,taillights,the rest will be lookalike composite of a 4 door family car on the same chassis and mechanicals as Ford and Holden and whoever else.

Not all the same mechanicals. See my reply above.

Altima is a 4 door family saloon, hence it's choice by Nissan. They are entering purely as a marketing campaign to sell the new Altima here in 2013. They have admitted as much!

Peter

[jdm_b16a]

Nissan makes its presence felt at pre-season test

Just days after announcing its return to Australian touring car racing, Nissan began its campaign to win over V8 Supercars fans at the pre-season test at Sandown Raceway yesterday.

The manufacturer had a prominent display adjacent to Sandown’s main grandstand, showcasing the Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R that won the 1991 Sandown 500 in the hands of Mark Gibbs and Rohan Onslow, the 2012 Pedders Safety Car and selected road cars.

Nissan will enter V8 Supercars under the Car of the Future regulations from 2013 with an as yet unnamed model and engine package, believed to be an Altima with a 5.6L V8 engine, teaming with Kelly Racing who will be rebranded as the Nissan Motorsport factory team.

The Nissan-Kelly Racing news was the talking point of the pre-season test, which was the first chance for Rick and Todd Kelly, co-owners of Kelly Racing, to receive feedback from the fans following the announcement.

“I honestly didn't know what to expect coming to the track,” says Todd Kelly. 



“I was prepared for everything. I couldn't be more surprised and impressed with how the fans have been. 



“When we did autographs on the pit straight there were thousands of people out there and I did not get one negative comment then or throughout the day at anytime, so it's been an amazing response.”

According to a poll on V8X’s Facebook page, 61 percent of fans said they were happy with the Kelly Racing-Nissan partnership, 31 percent were against it, and eight percent were indifferent.

“It's the first day we've been around the fans and great supporters of V8 Supercars since the Nissan announcement,” says Rick Kelly. 



“It's amazing how positive the feedback is. Everybody is definitely re-energised and enthused about Nissan coming into the sport and the future of V8 Supercars.



“For us that's absolutely outstanding. Obviously for the planning of the Nissan announcement we were always concerned would react and we've been absolutely blown away with the positive feedback we've had from everyone. 



“I think it's definitely re-energised the category and I can't wait to roll out for next year.”

http://v8xmagazine.com.au/images/Images_NEWS/nissantent.jpg

Peter

[Fredoops]

Only a matter of time before the bogans start throwing VB stubbed at the nissans for being too Far ahead

[hondapop]

Yup! A new generation of bogans too.

[trism]

Good call Peter, i see that the engine was released on recently.

Heres what I read in an article

"the inclusion of a double overhead cam Nissan motor represents a change in emphasis for the class from technical parity to performance parity. According to COTF project leader Mark Skaife, the performance process that the V8 Supercars is currently working on will enable the incumbent manufacturers to join Nissan in running newer-technology engines. The current 5.0 litre Ford and Chevrolet motors used in the class are bespoke to V8 Supercars, with the blocks and cylinder heads made-to-order for the teams in the United States."

And it looks like theyre gonna limit them at somewhere between 600-650hp

This is great news in my opinion. It opens the door for ford to use the new Coyote engine thats in the FPVs.