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MrPlow
20-12-2003, 03:51 PM
just looking around/researching for some headers for my ek vti-r, just seeing what guys you think.... should i got for 4-2-1 or 4-1 setup? what would be the differances?

im planning on changing my exhaust piping to 2.25" with a simple titanium muffler...

any advice would GREAT!

Civic Type R
20-12-2003, 04:35 PM
have you read my post in the technical thread ?
that would give you a guide ;)

RAYTDR
20-12-2003, 05:56 PM
Ive got the same set up as Civic Type R JDM 4-1 but i have 2.5 system just depends what u want Top end 4-1 or more mid range 4-2-1?

Cheers,
Matt

A'PEXi
20-12-2003, 11:38 PM
i'd go for the 4-2-1 setup....

jenova
21-12-2003, 12:30 AM
for b16, definitely go for the 4-2-1 as u need the torque for daily driving

ONV-73C
21-12-2003, 10:14 AM
make sure u'd get d 4-2-1 1piece coz 4-2-1 2piece is useless....

RAYTDR
21-12-2003, 12:23 PM
for b16, definitely go for the 4-2-1 as u need the torque for daily driving

I have 4-1 and daily driving is fine :)

MrPlow
21-12-2003, 12:54 PM
okay well its seem i will be going for the 4-2-1 setup, cause i am after a gain in the mid range...

once i install the headers,exhaust and muffler... what would the noise factor be like, im really not a big fan of loud exhaust sound, i rather my vtec do all the barking!

eknine
21-12-2003, 12:56 PM
i seconded all those that said 4-2-1:)

genesis
21-12-2003, 01:00 PM
4-2-1

2ds
21-12-2003, 01:12 PM
noise will be fine as long as you get a sane muffler and not some 9" cannon

-2ds

vti-2
21-12-2003, 04:03 PM
4-2-1 for low-mid range torque. 4-1 for top-end.

4-1 sound awesome on the EK4, i've been in RAYTDR's car a few times since he had the headers installed and it pulls nice after 120km/h. ;) But it is also good for daily driving. And they sound great!

But yeah, as every one else said, if yours is mainly a daily driver the 4-2-1 setup would be better. If you want to do track work, go 4-1 straight away.

Civic Type R
21-12-2003, 04:10 PM
My 4-1 pulls like a biatch before VTEC !
Its awsome :)

MrPlow
21-12-2003, 05:19 PM
any brand you guy think i should go for? and whats a rough guess on the cost? i wanna do so much to much car at the moment, so i dont wanna blow alot on one thing?

jenova
21-12-2003, 06:19 PM
having owning a b16 before and now a b18 and what I can say about the b16 is that u really need to rev it up to make some decent power. it is almost torqueless below 4k and u dont want to use a 4-1 to shift the power band to upper rpm.

and for "4-2-1 for low-mid range torque. 4-1 for top-end." that might be true in theory but there are dyno charts that shows 4-2-1 out perform 4-1 in the whole rev range.

I wonder if there is any jap aftermarket brand that makes 4-1 for b16? all the 4-1 I have seen are for b18. anyone can confirm this?

J.Spec EG6
22-12-2003, 06:10 AM
i guess DC made one for b16 as i seen on ebay

OLM-02R
22-12-2003, 09:09 AM
get mugen or spoon 4-1 race hear and might as well do the whole lot high flow cat exhaust pipin n stuff....