Automatic to Manual Conversion

[Fadz_]

Hey guys, I am about to buy an Automatic GLi EK, and was wondering what is involved in a transmission change? I've always wanted a manual car and need to know the costs involved. So basically, what needs to be changed? does it have to be the stock ek1 gearbox? and how much would labour cost me?

Thanks!

[lilthug]

save the time and effort and buy a manual car from the start

[Fadz_]

That wasn't my question mate...

[1900-hustler]

save the time and effort and buy a manual car from the start

this is your best approach OP

you will end up spending at least a couple of grand aswell as time off the road

not worth the trouble/cost/hassle

[Fadz_]

It's what a lot of people have been telling me, but then i found a ek1 gearbox in the part out section for $150 which was lower than i expected ... so i wanted to know what else i need besides the gearbox to fully convert it ...

[simmy]

or buy a jdm d15b and do engine transplant

[jdm18c]

youll need but will probs need more

*shift linkages
*gearbox
*ecu
*manual harness?
*manual cluster
*put a plate in to hide the hole where the tbar shifter was
*changer the center console to a manual one
*need to get a manual mount for the box
*also youll need a clutch kitt


can be done ive done it on a eg but is it really worth it...

[simmy]

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1337459

[grifty]

The hardest part of a manual conversion is changing the pedals, theres no room lol.

[seihoa]

Cut the brake pedal in half.

Or buy a complete pedal box.

Ek1 parts should be cheap. Most expensive is labor probably looking at $500ish to get everything put in.

Shouldnt need a new ecu either but ek1 manual ecu should be cheap anyways.

[1900-hustler]

It's what a lot of people have been telling me, but then i found a ek1 gearbox in the part out section for $150 which was lower than i expected ... so i wanted to know what else i need besides the gearbox to fully convert it ...

serious?

thats only 1 part out of the whole conversion

whats the logic behind buying the auto car and then converting it to manual?

dont tell me its because you found a gb which was $150 less than you thought...

[JohnO]

ask yourself you've got the gb for 150, but what else is required to do the swap and not to mention the labour which would add up. so sell your auto, buy a manual.

[EKVTIR-T]

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All jokes aside what the fellas have pointed out is true so may want to reconsider

[Fadz_]

Don't eat me haha, thanks for the help, i knew it wasn't only the gb i needed hence why i posted ...
ok, so it's obviously not worth it to go manual with the stock engine? what about in a couple of years when i can afford a k-swap? will it still be the same hassle?

[lilthug]

why would kswap make auto to manual any different?

[hondapop]

Take it from one who has done this a couple of times (and on much older RWDrive vehicles which are far, far simpler)........ Don't. Buy a manual to start with, even if you later want to do a K swap.

[Symphorced]

Don't eat me haha, thanks for the help, i knew it wasn't only the gb i needed hence why i posted ...
ok, so it's obviously not worth it to go manual with the stock engine? what about in a couple of years when i can afford a k-swap? will it still be the same hassle?

Same hassle? A K-swap would be even more of a hassle and cost even more money..

You wouldn't be able to keep your stock auto gearbox with a K-series conversion anyway.

[mocchi]

what the fcuk

[mocchi]

youll need but will probs need more

*shift linkages
*gearbox
*ecu - can use auto ecu.
*manual harness? - not needed
*manual cluster - can use auto cluster
*put a plate in to hide the hole where the tbar shifter was
*changer the center console to a manual one
*need to get a manual mount for the box
*also youll need a clutch kitt


can be done ive done it on a eg but is it really worth it...

reverse sensor aint gonna work, gotta add extra wiring.
only worth doing when you can get parts for less than $500 and you DIY it.
not that hard.

[Fadz_]

Fair enough, wedged between your jokes was some valuable information, so thanks :), I guess the project car will have to wait :)

[trism]

if you plan on doing a complete engine swap straight away, before its even on the road, then the auto-manual swap isnt that stupid.

[seihoa]

+1 wait till u do a engine swap and do it all at the same time.

Prob save some money from pulling the box out again.

In the end do what you want.

[po61ba2]

ill be doing this conversion pretty soon.harder(i have a vti automatic cvt tranny which require a special bracket)...u may have to search alot if you really want to do it...ill be spending less than $500 all up for the parts..i have put my clutch pedal which is pretty annoying to install.good luck...

[integragsi96]

I'm doing a Manual conversion to my BB6 Prelude VTIR.
even getting done from a known performance shop it will only cost me $2.5k
All I have to do is source all the parts. Deffo worth the money

[trism]

only 2.5k?

do it yourself for nothing.

[integragsi96]

only 2.5k?

do it yourself for nothing.

sorry thats 2.5k including parts. however i just have to source them....

[mocchi]

huh? so who bought the parts you or them?

2.5k Inc parts but you source them
darth vader filtering seawater

for d series, it probably cost 1k max

[u mad?]

integragsi96 = new watajk

[Bludger]

imminent potential lulz.

keeping a watch from afar.

[integragsi96]

huh? so who bought the parts you or them?

2.5k Inc parts but you source them
darth vader filtering seawater

for d series, it probably cost 1k max

Its called wreckers my friend. their good for a reason. H series are not as popular as D series B series or K series so therefore even tho they are goodish parts they cost more than D but less than B
umad?: id expect something like that coming from you.

[Fadz_]

thanks for that, but i'd rather save the 2.5k until i decide to do a k or b swap and do it all in one go, i don't want to get d series transmission parts then swap it all out for b or k series parts when i do the engine swap,,, thanks for your reply though!

[mocchi]

Its called wreckers my friend. their good for a reason. H series are not as popular as D series B series or K series so therefore even tho they are goodish parts they cost more than D but less than B
umad?: id expect something like that coming from you.

sorry bro i got mad cos you got ripped by wreckers, paying 2.5k but you gotta source parts.
love you xoxo.

bb6 lube welcome abourd!


thanks for that, but i'd rather save the 2.5k until i decide to do a k or b swap and do it all in one go, i don't want to get d series transmission parts then swap it all out for b or k series parts when i do the engine swap,,, thanks for your reply though!

save that cash and do it all at once. good decision imo.

[integragsi96]

My,minds full of F*** lol
As in the garage will charge 1k
and im expecting 1.5-2k for parts.
Sounds fair.
Bb6 love!

[anzai]

so about 3k u gonna fork out

all to convert an auto lude to manual?

i dont even...

[GU357]

I'm doing a Manual conversion to my BB6 Prelude VTIR.
even getting done from a known performance shop it will only cost me $2.5k
All I have to do is source all the parts. Deffo worth the money

My friend had his Auto VTiR BB6 converted, here in perth.
cost him about 4k all up. however perth is a small market so its a bit pricier.
but thats another 3rd the price he paid for the car.

you have to be really dedicated. or just buy what u want rather then make it from what you have. usually simple is better

[u mad?]

that means hes will have spent 20k for a bb6 manual (integragsi96)

could have bought a dc5r/k swap/ immac dc2r


meh, his money, if he's happy in the end then who gives a fuk i guess.

[mugen_ctr]

unless the car was a toyota chaser, than id consider the auto to manual conversion worthy, well any RWD for that matter hahahah, but IMO, on a lude or any civic, the money and effort isnt worth it, better off selling and buying a manual car from the start, plenty around, i dont see why u couldnt just take that route, as it saves more in the long run, or stick with what others say, wait for engine conversion to come around, so much easier than.......

Unless u plan on DIY the whole thing, than its worth the hassle, finding parts and fitting em, but if ur gonna get a workshop to do it, they will rape u with labor charges and may very well tell u to also change this an that parts for extra money.....

labor varies from places to places, one place charges 88 per hour so if its a 12 hour job, do the maths, gonna work out to be $$$$, but parts are dirt cheap for ek, so all up shouldn't b no more than 1.5k max! including labor....

And for more reference, to change the clutch is only around $300 - $400, thats pulling out the gb, clutch + flywheel and than re installing it, no more than 4 hour job on a ek, b or d series....

So knowing that... realistically, it shouldn't take that long for any mech to do a auto - manual swap in no more than 6 - 8 hours :D

DIY, no more than 500 with all parts.... gb alone is only worth 150 tops for a Y4 gb, so that says alot right there.... but remember for a DIY, make sure to give atleast 2-3 days to work on it for first timer

[bennjamin]

having done a few manual conversions - there is still a few things to consider. On a EG for example - you need a custom drivers side mount to hold the gearbox. Also , converting to manual WILL require blueslipping...more $$$ ontop.

But , generally its simple. Take off auto ECU , (do everything necessary to access then) take off auto box / torque convertor , install clutch lines and manual pedals , install flywheel/clutch/gearbox , replace throttle body if need be with a manual one , replace reverse sensor wiring , remove auto shifter wiring loom (behind centre console) , short the existing wiring connector to allow the car to start....etc etc

[Indie]

Why the hell would you throw 2-4k away on converting a Civic, Integra or a Prelude? The Prelude isn't even a sporty car to begin with, and it would make so much more sense to trade any of them in for something else.

[GU357]

Why the hell would you throw 2-4k away on converting a Civic, Integra or a Prelude? The Prelude isn't even a sporty car to begin with, and it would make so much more sense to trade any of them in for something else.

agreed. The prelude is more of an OP luxury car. with all the leather and that it is quite heavy, compared to its sibling cars.