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TranceZiggy
07-03-2012, 08:10 PM
Hey guys,

Looking at getting a cluster from a Civic GLi for the tacho to put in my CXi, but the only ones I can find (that aren't $500 EK9's) are automatic, so they have the gear numbers inbetween the temperature & fuel gauges (See: Here (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/JDM-HONDA-CIVIC-96-00-EK-EK3-SO3-D15B-GAUGE-CLUSTER-/160665423727?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item256867cf6f) ).

Anyway, anyone bought an AT cluster & removed the numbers? Or does anyone know how those would be housed in there? For exmaple, are they painted directly on the gauge, or are they on a plastic strip that can be removed?

Some might say "Just don't worry about the numbers", but it wouldnt be clean & would really irk me.

Cheers.

grifty
07-03-2012, 08:51 PM
cant remove the numbers, either convert your car to auto, put electrical tape on the numbers or paint em.

IV73CI
07-03-2012, 09:21 PM
cant remove the numbers, either convert your car to auto, put electrical tape on the numbers or paint em.

You can actually remove the temp / fuel gauge assembly and swap it for an Manual Cluster temp / fuel gauge assembly.

my EM1 manual have the same diameter fuel / temp gauge assembly as to the Auto cluster just minus the AT gear indicators in between.

Its doable and will work ....the only thing is you have to open up both MT & AT clusters and swap the fuel/temp gauges around .. or just buy the fuel/temp gauge assembly from a damaged MT cluster etc ....

- ive done this to a mates car up on the gcoast.

EDIT: try to avoid removing the needles on the gauges as it will be harder to calibrate when they power up. it will be off or not accurate. - the fuel and temp gauge assembly is 1 piece. the whole thing comes off so no need to remove needles, black facia covers etc.

kyzz
08-03-2012, 12:15 AM
Don't just limit your search to ozhonda, try JDMST, or even ebay, there may be some manual clusters around, I'm sure if you took apart the cluster there would be a way to take it out, gotta be careful though.

Drifter995
08-03-2012, 12:38 AM
*coughs* I got a manual cluster... Just haven't had a chance to get to the car to rip anything out of it.. Sucks not having a license when your parts car is at your parents house Q.Q

Edit: If you want it, it's an eg9.. eg gli sedan cluster, has somewhere between 140,000 and 150,000 on it. Only trouble is i only go up there once a week to see the parents (busy the rest of the week, and have no license Q.Q) So I'd have to rip it out on saturday.
If you want it, pm me. I'll see If I can get it saturday when I'm up there. or thursday maybe. Thursday could work, seems i'm going up there twice this week. sweet.

TbM
08-03-2012, 01:07 AM
You can actually remove the temp / fuel gauge assembly and swap it for an Manual Cluster temp / fuel gauge assembly.

my EM1 manual have the same diameter fuel / temp gauge assembly as to the Auto cluster just minus the AT gear indicators in between.

Its doable and will work ....the only thing is you have to open up both MT & AT clusters and swap the fuel/temp gauges around .. or just buy the fuel/temp gauge assembly from a damaged MT cluster etc ....

- ive done this to a mates car up on the gcoast.

EDIT: try to avoid removing the needles on the gauges as it will be harder to calibrate when they power up. it will be off or not accurate. - the fuel and temp gauge assembly is 1 piece. the whole thing comes off so no need to remove needles, black facia covers etc.

Did you read the OP's post? He has a cxi and wants a gli cluster. He would be better off buying a manual gli cluster instead of having to buy 2 clusters.


Hey guys,

Looking at getting a cluster from a Civic GLi for the tacho to put in my CXi, but the only ones I can find (that aren't $500 EK9's) are automatic, so they have the gear numbers inbetween the temperature & fuel gauges (See: Here (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/JDM-HONDA-CIVIC-96-00-EK-EK3-SO3-D15B-GAUGE-CLUSTER-/160665423727?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item256867cf6f) ).

Anyway, anyone bought an AT cluster & removed the numbers? Or does anyone know how those would be housed in there? For exmaple, are they painted directly on the gauge, or are they on a plastic strip that can be removed?

Some might say "Just don't worry about the numbers", but it wouldnt be clean & would really irk me.

Cheers.

Ask this lad if hes got one as hes wrecking an EK1 gli, if its manual your in luck
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?159990-Wrecking-EK1-CL9-Bar-Jazz-Bonnet-Protector-FD-foggies-springs
found this on german ebay, posts world wide but cant read the add.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Kombiinstrument-Tacho-Honda-Civic-EJ9-Bj-96-01-HR0213005-/230747391897?pt=DE_Autoteile&hash=item35b99dc799
Us ebay
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Honda-Civic-96-00-Gauge-Gage-Instument-Cluster-Domani-JDM-Tachometer-Tach-Si-ek9-/290678522213?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43adca4165
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HONDA-CiViC-OEM-00-EX-MANUAL-5-SPEED-STOCK-SPEEDOMETER-INSTRUMENT-CLUSTER-GAUGES-/280832821542?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4162f0c926

Or other thing you could do is get the auto cluster and use an overlay like one of these, there are a few different designs and colours ect if you search its just one example.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/96-00-HONDA-CIVIC-EK-JDM-Type-R-Plasma-Glow-Gauge-Dials-/260957286939?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3cc244321b

grifty
08-03-2012, 06:13 AM
You can actually remove the temp / fuel gauge assembly and swap it for an Manual Cluster temp / fuel gauge assembly.

my EM1 manual have the same diameter fuel / temp gauge assembly as to the Auto cluster just minus the AT gear indicators in between.

Its doable and will work ....the only thing is you have to open up both MT & AT clusters and swap the fuel/temp gauges around .. or just buy the fuel/temp gauge assembly from a damaged MT cluster etc ....

- ive done this to a mates car up on the gcoast.

EDIT: try to avoid removing the needles on the gauges as it will be harder to calibrate when they power up. it will be off or not accurate. - the fuel and temp gauge assembly is 1 piece. the whole thing comes off so no need to remove needles, black facia covers etc.

Lol have u seen what a cxi cluster looks like? This can't be done

grifty
08-03-2012, 06:15 AM
*coughs* I got a manual cluster... Just haven't had a chance to get to the car to rip anything out of it.. Sucks not having a license when your parts car is at your parents house Q.Q

Edit: If you want it, it's an eg9.. eg gli sedan cluster, has somewhere between 140,000 and 150,000 on it. Only trouble is i only go up there once a week to see the parents (busy the rest of the week, and have no license Q.Q) So I'd have to rip it out on saturday.
If you want it, pm me. I'll see If I can get it saturday when I'm up there. or thursday maybe. Thursday could work, seems i'm going up there twice this week. sweet.


He has a ek.....

IV73CI
08-03-2012, 06:39 AM
Lol have u seen what a cxi cluster looks like? This can't be done

Yes i have actually.. I have sold & converted a MT & AT and the cxi cluster. Different combinations for a mate on a budget.

Ex, CXi, etc non tacho
http://img.tapatalk.com/31b8e37d-c598-fd5a.jpg

Gli, AT cluster with tacho and gear indicators etc
http://img.tapatalk.com/31b8e37d-c5e9-8834.jpg

Gli, MT cluster with tacho etc
http://img.tapatalk.com/31b8e37d-c65d-800b.jpg

All parts are interchangable... Swapping any of the gauges around into any of the 3 housings are possible, bezel, covers, etc etc

U just have to knw what ur doing.

OP
But yes makes sence just to buy a MT cluster rather than buying 2.

But if u can score a damaged cluster with usuable RPM and fuel/temp gauges from a AT or MT cluster, just swap them gauges around as it will be hella cheaper than buying a new cluster.

TranceZiggy
08-03-2012, 08:08 AM
Cheers all.

Yeah, can't be buggered getting two clusters, let alone searcing for a buggered cluster to remove the temp/fuel gauge.

The German link TbM posted looks good, ran it through Google Translate to read it. All up it's cheaper than average clusters, $90 total shipped to Aus, probably purely because of exchange rates.

Drifter995
08-03-2012, 10:50 AM
He has a ek.....

so he does.. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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TbM
08-03-2012, 02:09 PM
Lol have u seen what a cxi cluster looks like? This can't be done
I believe it can be done grifty as IIRC they use the same casing just different dials or gauges whateva you call them.
its just not a smart way to do it hence people dont usually do it.


Yes i have actually.. I have sold & converted a MT & AT and the cxi cluster. Different combinations for a mate on a budget.

Ex, CXi, etc non tacho
http://img.tapatalk.com/31b8e37d-c598-fd5a.jpg

Gli, AT cluster with tacho and gear indicators etc
http://img.tapatalk.com/31b8e37d-c5e9-8834.jpg

Gli, MT cluster with tacho etc
http://img.tapatalk.com/31b8e37d-c65d-800b.jpg

All parts are interchangable... Swapping any of the gauges around into any of the 3 housings are possible, bezel, covers, etc etc

U just have to knw what ur doing.

OP
But yes makes sence just to buy a MT cluster rather than buying 2.

But if u can score a damaged cluster with usuable RPM and fuel/temp gauges from a AT or MT cluster, just swap them gauges around as it will be hella cheaper than buying a new cluster.
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While you may be correct that its possible to change out the cxi and gli gauges. hes better off just buying a manual cluster. Requires less effort and doesnt hinge on him finding a damaged cluster. If he got a damaged AT cluster he would still be stuck in the same place, AT gli have the numbers on the temp/fuel gauge that hes trying to get avoid. so MT is the only option.

IF you think its easy to find a damaged MT cluster find one and post up some links, must only be cosmetic damage or broken speedo otherwise he would need to buy an additional cluster which would cost more and be more effort.



Cheers all.

Yeah, can't be buggered getting two clusters, let alone searcing for a buggered cluster to remove the temp/fuel gauge.

The German link TbM posted looks good, ran it through Google Translate to read it. All up it's cheaper than average clusters, $90 total shipped to Aus, probably purely because of exchange rates.
No worries mate always like to try and help where i can. IF you would like me to try and find more let me know but $90 shipped seemes pretty reasonable to me.

Are you going to switch out the odometer from the old cluster to the new cluster to keep your car displaying the correct Km reading?

IV73CI
08-03-2012, 03:05 PM
All good ...makes sense to buy str8 up a MT cluster yo.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j110/z00mxracing/TROLLING/37f51ab3-8f3e-4c05-8dd0-47d8aab9ca99.jpg

-Tom
08-03-2012, 03:59 PM
I hear the old CRV clusters are exactly the same as the EK Civic clusters except they have orange trim instead of blue; if you wanna mix it up a little.

IV73CI
08-03-2012, 04:27 PM
I hear the old CRV clusters are exactly the same as the EK Civic clusters except they have orange trim instead of blue; if you wanna mix it up a little.

Correct.

gen2 CRX
08-03-2012, 05:11 PM
Black texta will do the trick

mugen_ctr
08-03-2012, 05:57 PM
Just go with swapping out the cluster with similar kms that is a manual cluster.... Off all the manual conversion ive seen, you only swap the cluster, or just leave it how it is... Dont muck around with swapping gauges withing the cluster, just wasting ur time

grifty
08-03-2012, 06:04 PM
I believe it can be done grifty as IIRC they use the same casing just different dials or gauges whateva you call them.
its just not a smart way to do it hence people dont usually do it.

i thought he was implying get the auto cluseter and use the cxi clusters Fuel & temp gauages. This cannot be done because the cxi cluster has the fuel & temp gauages seperate.

IV73CI
08-03-2012, 08:34 PM
i thought he was implying get the auto cluseter and use the cxi clusters Fuel & temp gauages. This cannot be done because the cxi cluster has the fuel & temp gauages seperate.

dude you misread my post..

i knw the temp and fuel is seperate on the cxi..

what i was saying is that you can swap around the (temp/fuel) gauge into the location of the temp gauge on the cxi.

doesnt matter which gauge etc, as any of the EK, cluster parts are all interchangeable internally and externally.

mocchi
09-03-2012, 12:17 PM
dude you misread my post..

i knw the temp and fuel is seperate on the cxi..

what i was saying is that you can swap around the (temp/fuel) gauge into the location of the temp gauge on the cxi.

doesnt matter which gauge etc, as any of the EK, cluster parts are all interchangeable internally and externally.

grifty misunderstood you cos his fingers too fat on his iphone

IV73CI
09-03-2012, 01:35 PM
grifty misunderstood you cos his fingers too fat on his iphone

no worries,

every1 with iphone with fat fingers seems to have the same problem .. = healthy.

skinny fingers that can easily chat on iphone keyboards = need to eat more lol.





inafterfatfingerdesease

EKVTIR-T
09-03-2012, 01:37 PM
no worries,

every1 with iphone with fat fingers seems to have the same problem .. = healthy.

skinny fingers that can easily chat on iphone keyboards = need to eat more lol.





inafterfatfingerdesease
http://pictures.funnyforum.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/its-time-to-stop-posting.jpg

senna
09-03-2012, 01:39 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gL-6l3pGrIs/TyNJaIdgemI/AAAAAAAAAqQ/eqmUrGRYhdE/s1600/andrew-wk-fox-news-face.gif

IV73CI
09-03-2012, 01:46 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gl-6l3pgris/tynjaidgemi/aaaaaaaaaqq/eqmurgryhde/s1600/andrew-wk-fox-news-face.gif

lol ..

TranceZiggy
09-03-2012, 07:28 PM
Lol, slightly detailed thread.

But yes, ordered the one from Germany, will swap out my old speedo/odo to keep genuine K's when it gets here :)

TbM
10-03-2012, 05:56 AM
Lol, slightly detailed thread.

But yes, ordered the one from Germany, will swap out my old speedo/odo to keep genuine K's when it gets here :)

Nice one, good to hear your changing out the odometer and keeping the genuine Km reading on your car:thumbsup:

ejsalcepuedes
18-06-2012, 08:19 PM
since you guys are talking about Instrument cluster: Although, this is about EG's, I just want to ask if the clusters w/ tach and no tach are interchangeable? I read before that all clusters (w/ or w/o tach / MT or AT) of EG's are interchangeable, then recently I read another thread that says, you can't fit an MT cluster w/ tach into a dash of an MT that doesn't have a tach BUT however, you can fit a cluster of an AT w/ Tach into a MT w/o Tach. Can please somebody clarify this for me?

IV73CI
05-07-2012, 05:50 PM
since you guys are talking about Instrument cluster: Although, this is about EG's, I just want to ask if the clusters w/ tach and no tach are interchangeable? I read before that all clusters (w/ or w/o tach / MT or AT) of EG's are interchangeable, then recently I read another thread that says, you can't fit an MT cluster w/ tach into a dash of an MT that doesn't have a tach BUT however, you can fit a cluster of an AT w/ Tach into a MT w/o Tach. Can please somebody clarify this for me?

Not sure if srs.
http://img.tapatalk.com/31b04454-4722-45f9.jpg


Its easier to buy a manual cluster with the tacho rather than opening up the cluster and swapping mechanical parts around.